VIDEOS: Police Use Tear Gas To Clear Out Black Lives Matter Protesters At Charlottesville KKK Rally

Virginia State Police had to use tear gas to clear our an unlawful assembly of Black Lives Matter protesters on Saturday.

Virginia State Police had to use tear gas to clear our an unlawful assembly of Black Lives Matter protesters on Saturday.

Police Release Tear Gas At Charlottesville KKK Rally

Charlottesville, VA – A planned Charlottesville KKK rally and counter-protest planned for Saturday ended with tear gas and 23 arrests.

Around 50 members of the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan announced that they were going to hold an armed protest in Charlottesville to protest the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue. They gained a permit for the Saturday march and started spreading the word to drum up attention for their cause.

The city pleaded with people not to take the bait, and not give them the attention they wanted.

“Our approach all the way through, from our police chief on down, has been to urge people not to take this totally discredited fringe organization’s putrid bait at all,” Mayor Michael Signer said, according to Joe Heim with The Washington Post. “The only thing they seem to want is division and confrontation and a twisted kind of celebrity. The most successful defiance will be to refuse to take their bait and continue to tell our story. Then their memory of Charlottesville will be of a community that repudiated them by not getting drawn into their pathetic drama.”

The city worked to create attractions to draw people away from the rally. However, Black Lives Matter realized that they could use the event to generate attention for themselves, and they organized a 1,000 person counter-protest.

Black Lives Matter groups pushed the event and it drew reporters from across the U.S. to report on the showdown between the two organizations who both promote ethnonationalism.

The Black Lives Matter crowd grew in size early in the day, and from all appearances, it was an anti-police rally rather than an counter-protest to the KKK. The group chanted at the police, taunting and insulting them throughout the event.

Before the KKK even showed up, several people in the Black Lives Matter group were arrested.

You can see initial video of the first arrests here:

Due to delays caused by the Black Lives Matter crowd, the KKK pajama party got started 45 minutes late. After about 40 minutes of spouting white supremacist and anti-Semitic hate speech, the KKK had enough and decided to head home.

Officers escorted the group of 50 KKK members to their cars, where the 1,000 Black Lives Matter protesters blocked the streets, and some protesters were spraying pepper spray.

Police declared that the Black Lives Matter protesters were an unlawful assembly and repeatedly warned them that chemical agents would be used if they didn’t clear out. Some of the crowd dispersed, and three canisters of tear gas had to be used to clear out the rest.

The crowd finally dispersed. As of 6:16 PM, there were 23 arrests made of the Black Lives Matter group.

Afterwards, attendees took to social media, seemingly shocked that that the police would use tear gas on a peaceful (besides the pepper spray) protest after they had been repeatedly warned that the police would do exactly that.

Reporter Joe Heim described the incident in a series of tweets during the event:

Video shows the moments before the tear gas was deployed:

Finally, after the tear gas was deployed, the dumbest tweet of the day goes to:

Besides not being true about all of the white liberals leaving, I think what she’s really trying to say is that people who dispersed when they were told to are the people who didn’t get hit with tear gas or arrested. It’s amazing how that works.

  • Diane Egge Feehan

    if you dont obey law enforcement and their repetitive warnings …. you deserve what you get …dont care what color or anything else about you …

    • JustMyTwoCents

      It is pretty easy to understand, isn’t it. Sadly they weren’t raised like us.

      • BlueWarrior

        Ghetto culture brings our boys violence. These animals are a stain on our country.

  • Highest common denominator

    Who is paying attention to the KKK nowadays? They’re a group of losers who still hold out hope for their traitor nation regaining their Glory days. They’re like a quarterback they pushed in high school and still wear their letterman jacket around town at 40 years old.

    • THE ALMIGHTY MIKEY ESCO!!!

      TRUMP,BANNON,SESSIONS,GORAK,STEPHEN MILLER!!! KKK GANG MEMBERS!!!

      • Phoenix Angelfire

        please do seek professional help before matters get out of hand.

    • jennifer

      I think you’re finally correct on something denominator.
      kkk is a loser group AND SO IS BLM… as bad or worse.
      wish the law would start arresting and throw the keys away for 20-30 years.

      • Highest common denominator

        Or worse? I must have missed the articles about BLM lynching white people for decades. Could you send me that link?

        • Mark Duncan

          Try to keep up. No blacks have been lynched by the KKK in half a century or more. It has been 10 days since the last BLM thug assassinated a cop. Idiot!

          • Highest common denominator

            And about 24 hours since the last KKK member killed an officer. What’s your point?

  • Ned

    Black people get arrested and gassed at KKK rally… But they deserved it, because the KKK had permits…

    LMAO. Feels good to step outside of my bubble every now and again. Comedy and tragedy is indistinguishable in this realm.

  • Liberal Male=Cucked Sissy Male

    Black Lives Matter is nothing more than the reincarnation of the 1970s Black Liberation Army terrorist group.

    • Ned

      Ehhhhh, I don’t think you’re intimate enough with either organization to make that distinction or to make it so confidently… Good try though with the false equivalence.

      The United States began it’s history by terrorizing black folks. What are your really to expect?

      • SHOTGUN285

        Actually he’s pretty spot on. Both groups were founded by ignorant bigots that cared far more about violence and destruction than they ever did about any form of real justice.

        • Ned

          BLM may be ignorant but your claim that the organization condones or promotes violence is equally so.

          Black liberation Army was an armed militia, BLM is a large Facebook group… Ya’ll mad BLM got baited by the KKK but the same thing is happening on this page. Shoot, some of the vitriol on this page has me trying to defend a group I don’t 100% align with.

          • SHOTGUN285

            Ned please, be honest. BLM has condoned the murder of police officers just for the uniform they wear, they aren’t even trying to single out the bad cops (it would still be wrong and illegal, but at least would have some logic to it). They have stirred up anger to the point that violent supporters of BLM have ambushed and murdered cops in the streets. If you are trying to dismiss them as just a facebook group, I think you are being willfully ignorant, or at the very least terribly naive.

          • Ned

            I mean maybe its because I spent a few hours trying to distill the right thoughts I’m a little miffed.. but jeez I wonder what I could have said to have had my comments deleted or rejected.

          • Jean A.

            They destroyed Ferguson and Baltimore, they block highways and shout Pigs in a Blanket, fry’em like bacon. They assault people who say all lives matter.They are a domestic terror group based on the lie hands up, don’t shoot.

          • Ooops_6805

            If you “REALLY” that: “BLM is a large Facebook group” the you really need to wake up.
            That kind of stupid has zero cure . . .as if any other stupid has a cure either!

          • Ned

            I thought knowledge or the search for knowledge was the ‘cure’ for ignorance… cute rhetoric though. At least attack the naivety directly as opposed to saying there is no way we can have mutual understanding due to my incurable end-stage stupidity.

          • Joe Blow

            Why does the BLM website say this: “Black Lives Matter is a chapter-based national organization working for the validity of Black life. We are working to (re)build the Black liberation movement.” No connection to Black Liberation movement? Time to open the eyes a little wider.

          • Ned

            ‘Rooted in the experiences of Black people in this country who actively resist our dehumanization, #BlackLivesMatter is a call to action and a response to the virulent anti-Black racism that permeates our society…

            This part is answers your question: ‘It centers those that have been marginalized within Black liberation movements. It is a tactic to (re)build the Black liberation movement.’

            It isn’t the Black Liberation Army, it is rebuilding (if the movements we have are now broken) or building (if the movements we have are beyond repair) a movement that serves to liberate people who are marginalized. They are trying to reframe what black liberation means.

          • Joe Blow

            Ned, can you give me an example of your personal experience with “virulent anti-Black racism that permeates our society…” or perhaps ways in which you have been marginalized.

            Do you also agree with BLMs demands that Black people should no longer be held accountable to the law? No more incarcerations?

            “Until we achieve a world where cages are no longer used against our people, we demand an immediate change in conditions and an end to public jails, detention centers, youth facilities and prisons as we know them,” the agenda says.”

          • Ned

            Being stopped by the police because there have been a rash of car break-in in the area. I didn’t fit any description the car was mine, but the cops were just checking. Felt pretty degrading hearing my name being spelled in NATO phonetic for a car that I have legal ownership of. I had a car that broke down in my area of New Jersey, I was asking for a jump in a well lit gas station… one mother wouldn’t let me hook my jumper cables and the nice owner of BMW looked at me frightened as I approached him to ask him for help. When I was younger, in the 90s, I had parents who would tell their kids to not play with me on the playground because of my size and what I presume would be my race, as I didn’t see husky white kids being looked at with scrutiny.

            While not a personal attack, I see the way that my race is exploited in the media and by politicians. I see how gentrification displaces 1000s in my city. I see how instead of blatant racism, you see coded language… which is why I find open racism refreshing…. I know where you stand and what I need to do to either make a connection or protect myself.

          • Ned

            I don’t think anyone should be above the law, but in practice there are a myriad of situations where people receive leniency. Most people who are shaded like me have to be exceptional to receive some sort of grace from the justice system. It could just be a feeling, but reports on policing show that blacks are treated more suspiciously and punitively.

            I do believe that a lot of our social problems derive from ‘warfare’ to treat drug abuse instead of approaching it as a mental health issue. Even our drug laws are shaded (i.e. scheduling of cocaine under marijuana). You have predominately white people who are profiting from marijuana growth distribution and sale, while maverick street entrepreneurs are being locked up for seeing the opportunity of selling a product for >100% profit. Moonshiners are folksy… JFK’s father was a bootlegger, yet thousands of my brothers are having their lives ruined for being a libertarian.

            I don’t agree with people who claim they are Moors and believe by some transient property they aren’t beholden to the laws of the land. I don’t think that is what BLM is advocating in that quote. It looks like they want humane conditions for jails… particularly private ones, where there is evidence of collusion between civic officials and the CEOs of correctional facilities to keep them full. It looks like what they are referencing is the systems used to force people into labor.. beginning with chattel slavery and indentured servitude that relegated non-whites to below human status and relegated poor whites to right above the people of color… enough for it to matter, but not enough for it to really matter. To sharecropping where blacks were denied access to land, to Jim Crow that filled chain-gangs and mines with black workers. To the modern day war on drugs that created procedures that target people of color.

            I think its should be common knowledge, at this point, that drug use/abuse is a very nuance topic, that is independent of race… but only one side is being demonized for it.

          • Mark Duncan

            BLM is a group of racist thugs, who’s sole purpose is to riot and steal and destroy property.

      • Jay

        No, the British throne started it with bringing slaves over by the thousands to the ‘new lands’. The U.S struggled with the rich English, French, and Spanish elites until the civil war to abolish it, and another 100 years to get blacks the rights they deserved. Try looking at the whole history and who was really responsible for the racism. This was in the original rough draft of the U.S. constitution written by Jefferson and removed by the rich elite politicians.:

        he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it’s most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. this piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, & murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.

        • Ned

          Thank you for the history lessons… But the Portuguese were the ones who initiated the trans Atlantic slave trade… Arabs established slave trade routes through the Sahara even before that. I’m not looking to go tit for tat against people who are no longer here. Though the British were ousted the system of slavery was still kept intact. The result of all those centuries of enslaving my ancestors in the New World was that we have been characterized as ‘others’ though we’re more ‘American’ than most other who’s ancestors came post civil war.

          irony of you blaming the British, is that had the US stayed under the tyranny of a foreign King, Blacks would have had emancipation sooner. See how creative we can get when we focus on what could have been?
          What good should I take from there being a draft of the Constitution that tried to reconcile for slavery? Obviously enough of the founding fathers were more concerned about their pockets than human dignity. Not much has changed in 240 yrs.

          We are removed enough from that time that I’m no longer a slave but the attitude of this country towards blacks still requires that I demand equal treatment under the law. And that means being given the same latitude other Americans have to be flawed humans, without it being a referendum on the whole race.

          • Debby Morge

            we dont need a lesson on slaves,i dont care,you were not a slave and your cause,is nothing but a bunch of misinformed agitators,the people of all race,has had enough of your looting,arsonist no cause mob mentality

          • Ned

            lol… I don’t know about you but I don’t like misinformation… especially my American history. I didn’t say anything but America’s history began with terrorizing people who looked like me, soley for the context… and then expounded once homie up top came incorrect with the geopolitics at the time of the founding of this nation. Furthermore, I said I wasn’t a slave and there was a second clause to that, I’m not equal yet. So I must and will fight for my equality, as an American it is a requirement.

            You just calling names out does nothing for me. I’d imagine there were times people made a group that you sympathized with look bad, and you were able to find reason to rationalize why the worse of the group didn’t represent the rest of the group. Social disruption is integral to this country, there are people who bastardize any cause by being guttural and emotional and resort to name calling as opposed to having dialogue.

          • Ned

            @AKCat1953… got the notification of your comment, but didn’t see it up here. Thank you for your support and encouraging words. It is the people who don’t 100% buy into a side that get swallowed up by the extreme poles. At the base of it, we’re all human, though our experiences are different. But what helps erase generational pain and hate is being loved or being treated with dignity by your contemporaries. When you are able to create new, good, experiences with people from varied backgrounds, you have no choice but to replace biases and the fear of the unknown or fear of the unfamiliar with respect, knowledge and nuance. If we shift the paradigm of ‘self’ from being the individual and making it the whole of humanity then we would have a great sense of responsibility for each other. Also we’ll have sensitivity and respect to whatever encompasses humanity, so that we can embrace our individuality and not find arbitrary reasons for it to be alright to hate someone.

          • Mark Duncan

            Then you should be fighting the members of your community to learn to treat others with respect. As your people represent 13% of the population and 52% of violent crime, your people disproportionately disrespect other’s property and lives.

          • Ned

            Ehhhh, wouldn’t take advice from you on what I should and should not be doing… after you’ve made it evident you don’t hold my life in much regard.

            I don’t think you need to be a sociology major to recognize what lack of access to resources can do to people… people in this country are dooms day prepping because they’re afraid of what people would do when TEOTWAWKI hits… So I think its established what savagery comes out of crisis, the black community has been in a perpetual state of crisis. In cities you have hungry people doing whatever they need to do to survive. You have people inundated with capitalistic desires that put self and personal status before the community… you have Americans behaving like Americans. So I guess I’m not surprised by your stats…. and to give you a freebie, by your stats that means Blacks are disproportionately victimized, what are you doing for my innocent brothers and sisters? Subjecting them to the same scrutiny as the guilty ones… much help that is. In order to solve that problem, I think one needs to reform both the internal and external cultures.

          • Mark Duncan

            You have every right I have. We are equal. You choose to fight for SPECIAL PRIVILEGES. I choose to fight back. With a bullet between your eyes.

          • Ned

            what special privileges are those? I’m curious?

          • Ned

            good thing I didn’t hold my breath, lol. You’re a disappointment @disqus_553kcp8w74:disqus rofl

          • Mark Duncan

            The privilege to riot, destroy private and public property and mame and kill people without consequence. The privilege of receiving preferential treatment in hiring and school admissions, over more qualified white applicants. How about those privileges, for starters.

          • Ned

            LMAO that’s even more disappointing… you just do drive-by’s like an e-thug. You don’t have to follow any threads, you get emailed or a disqus notification the moment someone @’s you or replies, big fella… AND you say you’re stating truth…. LMAO I hope you stay engaged because you are a riot (pun intended)

            So are you saying that I am fighting for those privileges or that I have them… because last time I checked people were arrested for BLM rioting and looting and good for that. Objectively speaking, what is worse? rioting because a jury acquits a murderer or rioting because your team won a sports-game? Don’t misconstrue my assertion… both are bad, but you make it seem like whites don’t riot and destroy.

            And in terms of affirmative action.. you can’t have it both ways. Blacks can’t both be lazy and not looking to better themselves AND take your spot for a job or college. You don’t seem to have a problem with them getting preferential treatment to be sent to jail.

          • Mark Duncan

            Your people riot because an innocent person is found not guilty for defending himself against others of your group.

          • Ned

            lolol… OJ was found not guilty… wanna tell me more about ‘innocent’ people and verdicts?

          • Mark Duncan

            As the 12.6% of the population who is black commits 52% of violent crime, you are getting exactly what you deserve.

          • Ned

            what is it that we deserve?

          • Mark Duncan

            The current rate of incarceration.

          • Ned

            Even though whites commit the same crimes at the same rate, but we’re treated more punitively. I’m not condoning crime but selling a loose cigarette, legally owning a gun should not be treated like rape or murder. Selling a loose cigarette should be treated like the crime it is, tax evasion. You give him a summons and walk away. I’m not in the habit of defending criminals but somehow our justice system will be more lenient with you guys, and will find any excuse to keep us as career criminals.

            Republicans are finding over 10 billion to cure our opiod epidemic, but have been persecuting brown people for using heroin and crack for decades. They should have always treated drug addiction like the mental health problem it is. Sounds like poverty is a greater contributor to vagrancy than race. And no one really cares about poor people, because it’s their fault… Right big fella?

          • Mark Duncan

            Wrong again. More whites are shot by police and incarcerated than blacks. Whites are 62% of the population. Blacks are 13%. Yet blacks commit 52% of violent crime. One would expect more blacks to be shot by police or locked up. And yet, more whites are shot and locked up. There is institutional racism against whites. Whites commit less violent crime, and yet are shot and incarcerated in higher numbers. I agree that the system is racist. Against whites.

          • Ned

            You’re focused on violent crime, like that’s the only time blacks are shot. Your stat lacks nuance… you’re trying to draw the point about disproportionate representation but you also have to address that most of these violent crimes happen in urban areas, where blacks, hispanics and immigrant groups take up a larger percentage of the populace. You have people who are vying for resources and violence typically forms from conflict. That is human nature, not a characteristic of any one race.

            Violent crimes have nothing to do with blacks people targeted for practices like stop-and-frisk… when drug use is pretty proportionate between races, but blacks and hispanics are jailed more often and for longer periods than their white counterparts. Violent crime has nothing to do with police officers being afraid of the people they’re sworn to protect, to the point that any innocuous action can be seen as a threat and licence to kill.

            Could you please tell me how the system is racists against whites, when the system was built for whites, by whites? Or is the system class-ist… because I would agree with you on that point. We just live in a more progressive caste system than most developing nations.

          • Mark Duncan

            So you are saying inner cities are more violent because you darker skinned people live there. And the suburbs are less so because more white people live there. The obvious inference being, darker skinned people are more violent, by their nature. You have finally posted some facts we agree on.

          • Ned

            Oh yeah, completely ignore the fact that people in the suburbs have access to resources due to having more money and less people to share, than their urban counterparts. I don’t think your inference is obvious, it is just lazy.

            I thought I was clear that I think class disparities and money is a stronger influence on violence, than something as arbitrary as race. Look throughout the red, yellow, brown, black and white world, you have crime and violence where people are the hungriest and neediest. If poor blacks deserve their plight, then poor whites deserve whatever plight they’re going through. Right big fella? If whiteness is under attack from institutional racism, how are you going to fix it?

          • Mark Duncan

            One could also look across the globe, you have crime and violence where people’s skin is darkest.

          • Ned

            And they would also see that they are the poorest. Even the most developed of those countries, colonialism created greater gaps in industry, cost of living and quality of life. I know we’re seeing the same things, but you just seem stuck on color.

          • Mark Duncan

            Why is it the poorest, least educated, least advanced societies share one thing in common? High melanin content.

          • Ned

            Ehhh…. don’t confuse correlation with causation. Try again buddy.

          • Ned

            @disqus_553kcp8w74:disqus I wouldn’t be so quick to link race to education. A lot of the basis for modern day math and science came from dark-skinned people. The numeral system that gives this webpage its address is Arabic so… I mean… are you serious about melaninated people being less educated? Also, the stuff you’ve been spewing this past week proves you’re an outlier to the very paradigm you’ve posed. Which is why, I love you man… you’re unapologetically ignorant. Honestly can’t be mad at you, I just pity you.

          • Mark Duncan
          • Ned

            So we’re just gonna submit cursory google searches as facts… then we’re gonna ignore that standardized testing is culturally based.

            *yawn*

            Please don’t insult my intelligence and lie. You can go up a couple messages to see yourself insinuate that melanin content is a reason for poverty, education level and the degree of advancement of a society.

            You obviously aren’t taking this trolling thing seriously, you’re just spamming at this point. Like I was saying earlier… You’re a disappointment, but in the end it really is my own fault for treating you like you were credible.

          • Mark Duncan

            Ignorant? I have backed up every claim I have made with facts and sources. Wonder why you don’t? Oh yeah.

          • Ned

            You do realize that you initially gave the wrong stat… the wrong source, until I shared the right source. So how am I the one not looking at facts?

          • Mark Duncan

            I have not.

          • Ned

            lol. suuurreee, big fella…

          • Mark Duncan

            I don’t follow these threads. I state facts. Then move on. Bye now, racist fucktard.

          • Mark Duncan

            If your people conducted themselves equally, they would be treated equally. You are less than 13% of the population, yet you commit 52% of the violent crime, in this Republic.

          • AuteursRevenge

            lies lies lies

          • Mark Duncan

            You are lying. If I am wrong, prove it. But do not use FBI Table 42, which breaks down individual classes of crime by race of perpetrator. Because FBI Table 42 agrees with me. Now stupid, try to prove me wrong. Or accept the fact I am smarter and better informed than you.

          • Ned

            To be fair its Table 43… and Blacks only make up 26% of all arrests. 51.1% of all murders/manslaughter so I don’t know where you got 52% for all violent crimes.

            https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-43

          • Mark Duncan

            From the table.

          • Ned

            I think I might need some help here big fella… which crimes are you considering to be violent? If you include: Murder, rape, aggravated assault, robbery, violent crime arson, other assault, carrying a weapon, offenses against family and children and DUI’s, then Whites make up 69% of arrests and blacks 27%.

            If you look at all arrests, blacks only make up 26%. You’re not spitting truth you’re spouting rhetoric.

          • Mark Duncan

            Poor, stupid Ned. Charts, numbers and such are way to complicated for him. Here you go, stupid. Let me help you.

            And btw, thank you for causing me to look back at the table. I was giving a wrong number. Blacks, at 12.6% of the population actually commit only 36.4% of violent crime. So it is only 3 times your representation in the population. Not 4 times.

            I have included a link to FBI Table 43, from 2015. First, move your cursor to the blue words at the bottom of this comment. Click on them.

            This will open Table 43. You need to look at Table 43A. Look down the left most column, to the ninth line. See that “violent crimes”. Now, follow that line across to the right, until you get to the darker column under “percent representation” titled “black or african american”. Where that line and column intersect is the percent of violent crime your type commit.

            Now, look at the words “violent crime”. See the little number 4 beside it. That means there is a footnote, explaining that. At the bottom of Table 43A, there is a list of footnotes. Read what is beside #4. That will answer your question.

            And that, Ned, is how charts and tables work.

            https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-43

          • Ned

            LMAO… so I’m stupid because you gave the wrong number? Either way, we were both wrong. 27% is closer to 36.4 than your inflated 52%. And because you’re so good at numbers big fella, I’ll leave the arithmetic to you.

            You know what? I don’t think I’m stupid, for treating you with a modicum of respect despite how much you eschew it or seem to not want it. I saw the superscript (it has a name, not ‘little number’) for violent crime and thought it was a subset of the arson numbers… but hey stupid ol’ me right? So umm… what’s your excuse? You continue to prove your futility and uselessness. I hope you don’t breed, but if you do, I can’t wait the 2-3 generations until a black life makes it into your gene pool.

            Thank you for coming to my rescue… Do I owe you an extra thanks for teaching me how to click an hyperlink… especially the one that I shared earlier.

          • Mark Duncan

            I know. I know. To your kind, facts and truth are futile and uselessl.

          • Ned

            Sorry buddy… It is just you, in particular, that is futile and useless. *yawn*

          • Debby Morge

            because there are more white people

          • AuteursRevenge

            lol. Especially to that last sentence.

          • AuteursRevenge

            Yea, that’s a rational and measured response…not.

          • Mark Duncan

            Because you are an idiot.

          • Carl F Bruschnig Jr

            To be accurate, the British did bring slaves to the “New World”. But they were not black, they were Irish that they brought to the colonies, and Scots to the northern Canadian territories.

            Not too sure though that blacks would have been emancipated before the Civil War. There were too many economic reasons to keep them for about 40-50 years after the British lost America.

          • Ned

            Cromwell was a dick…. but the English solution to their disenfranchised ethnic groups isn’t the topic at hand… there are people who are sympathetic to the IRA’s cause, but don’t agree with their means or Scots who would wish to leave the UK by any means necessary. BLM hasn’t bombed anyone, that was their opposition, who burned many black churches in the past 5 years. They don’t condone the murder of law enforcement. However; somehow, we’re able to reconcile the savagery of passionate people and label them lone wolves, without acknowledging the culture and environment that emboldens them. Informed by my biases, I see a pattern of certain ethnicities showing the worse sides of humanity, without it being a referendum on the entire race/ethnic group. If a Brit were to want to come in my home, should I not let them in because of their history of colonization? Should I distrust all police because of the bad apples? Of course not.

            My claim about emancipation was based on the US still being a crown colony. The British empire abolished the practice before the US, my ancestors in Jamaica were free 20 years before their American counterparts. That’s almost an entire generation. You very well could be right, but I made that claim just to show the absurdity of creating hypotheticals… What does it matter if Jefferson made provisions for slaves in the DoI or US Consitution?

          • Carl F Bruschnig Jr

            Sorry about the delay, I was on vacation. The Scots and the Irish that the British brought to the colonies were ones who owed debt to British ruling class. They were indentured for between 7 and 15 years after which time they would have supposedly come back home, as long as they paid for the trip themselves. The IRA sympathizers and the Scot isolationists were more often imprisoned in England so that they could be tortured and made an example of.

            As for the BLM, there are a lot of people who have identified themselves as “BLM” who have shot police, burned businesses and generally made BLM into a hate group. Like it or not, it’s what is perceived in the press and on YouTube that drives a lot of the current hate.

            Are all whites privileged, red-necked, KKK’ers? No. Very few are. But they are noisy bastards who like to claim they represent the majority.

            Are all blacks low IQ, violent, felonious troublemakers? It’s probably the same percentage as the KKK’ers. And they make the same claims about who they represent.

          • Ned

            Hope you got some good R&R Carl!

            I agree with you 100%. Even the way the Irish and other non-WASP whites, who emigrated postbellum, were discriminated against was bad… and probably a reason why prohibition was enacted. It’s an example of what happens when the government sets out to stymie the vices of poorer classes, by restricting their human rights. The creation of that black-market bred violence and did a poor job to stop illicit activity. Which is why I don’t attribute violence to my race, but to the amorphous war on drugs and to humanity.

            I would love for BLM to be a more thoughtful movement. I would like a movement that could be both unrelenting in it’s purpose, but flexible enough to allow for critical discussion. I’d want one that is impactful. If I’ve learned anything from the municipal response to the recent shooting in Minneapolis… you don’t need to hold demonstrations, you just need great lawyers, lol. Its baffling to me… the paradox, you say nothing and patiently wait for American culture to change… you’re complacent; you use violent rhetoric, because you’re immature and tactless, you’re labelled a terrorist group. I need a group that will use all that passion and energy to have police departments, law schools, election bureaus, gun-license offices, small-business bureaus and poly sci departments inundated with black applicants. One that will guide the masses to a place where they can be self-sufficient and self-protectant.

            BLM should stand with that Australian woman’s family, if they want to hold any credibility in my eyes. I think Eric Garner’s mother has been in touch with the family and they’re apart of growing fraternity of families who are losing loved ones to fearful people with power.

          • Carl F Bruschnig Jr

            BLM should also be working against the violence in the black community, not just those shot by police, but who have caught stray bullets fired by the criminal element. This has happened to four kids in the last 5 days in my city. BLM has been silent about these, but still harp on the killing of another 18 year old who tried to drive away from a police stop by driving off-road through a crowded area and almost running over a cop. This was all caught on several videos from both police and private citizens. The 18 year old was wanted for shooting at someone else’s car the day before, and was wanted for questioning about a series of car thefts that have occurred in the last year that have involved kids anywhere from 11 years old to 30 years old.

            Do something about the innocents who haven’t had a chance to grow up, not the destructive elements of society.

          • Ned

            I agree. And the most pragmatic way I can think of breaking the cycle of violence in those communities is a cultural reformation. Both externally and internally. I would think a movement that used the ideas I posed for self sufficiency and self-protection would benefit the innocents greatly. I hope, by having more black lawyers, police officers, business owners, engineers, psychologists, state-legislature then it would be easier to spark civil responsibility. And a lot of the kids in these communities lose their innocence early, because they lose their friends and family to peripheral, senseless violence. The way you protect innocence is to prevent tragedy, true. But you preserve innocence by reframing reality so that you can deal with tragedy and crisis, without diminishing one’s own self-worth or devalue human life. The cycle turns when powerlessness turns to wrath.

            The system already takes care of murders, drug dealers and users, and gang-members with little impunity. I think it’s valid to address the the impunity given to agents of the system that end or ruin innocent lives. Admonishing drug dealers and users, and gang-members is spraying water on the smoke and not on the fire. I don’t want to harp on the past, and I won’t; I only want to express that there is a hysteresis to generational death. I don’t get how someone can just label a race violent (not that you’ve done that, Carl)… it’s meant to strip them of their humanity, while confirming it. American culture on a whole is maturing and the self-hatred that has been programmed into the black psyche is finally fading away.

            The dominant culture isn’t going to hear the message that a BLM or any millennial pro-black (not anti-white) civil-rights movement is going to speak to its own community. Where I live, they’ve had several demonstrations to call for an end to local violence. If anything, the recent renaissance of black-love and self-awareness is indicative of a cultural reformation occurring within my community.

            The violence is rooted in something, that honestly only smart investment and reinvestment in those communities can resolve. The sad reality is that most blacks in these communities are innocent and moderate and are stuck between the rock of law enforcement and the hard place of living in a hard place. It’s going to take a lot of work and investment of time, money and human capital to truly fix these communities.

          • Carl F Bruschnig Jr

            I guess I’ll just keep doing what I do, keep providing positive examples for my grandsons (one is mixed race), and not raise them to be hateful. Use the examples of Booker T. Washington, George Washington Carver and Martin Luther King, Jr. as opposed to Malcom X, Elijah Muhammad or Louis Farrakahn. The first three used their education to advance themselves and work for all people. The last three used violence and division to create a victim mentality which has done more harm than good.
            When I was in sixth grade (in the late 60’s), I did a report on Booker T. Washington (Who I thought was the lead in a blues band), and received the top grade in my class. In a school located in a small farming community which had exactly ONE black person at the time.
            Washington’s message of get an education and use it rang true at the time, and as far as I’m concerned, still does, even more so now.

          • Ned

            Thats a great place to start. God bless your family and I hope your biracial grandchild is able to love himself wholly and and apologetically. I hope noone makes him feel bad about his blackness or look at him as tainted… or vice-versa (though the latter is less likely).

            The whole pantheon of black thought: King, Washington, DuBois, Baldwin, Eavers, X, Muhammad, Farrakhan, Tutu, Mandela, Marley, West should be looked at objectively. None of those men are perfect and hero worship can be dangerous, because you have to reconcile their humanity. Malcolm, before he died, soften his views and (this very well is my bias speaking) in my eyes when someone’s beliefs evolves it means that they’re being self-critical and conscientious, that’s purer (to me) than someone who is stubbornly peaceful especially when it impedes progress. I think it is possible to extract truth, purpose and example from the whole spectrum.

            My dad, before he passed when I was a child, gave me books on Desmond Tutu, Frederick Douglass, Malcolm X, Booker T, WEB Dubois, to show me multiple views on self-determination. Being non-violent gets you killed, being violent gets you killed. The approach that I have been able to glean from this array of thinking is that: 1) There is a system that is set up to make the life of a black person incrementally harder than other citizens. 2) The system will not reform itself. 3) The greatest way to fight the system, is to improve yourself in spite of the system. 4) It is my responsibility to make sure that the people after me don’t fall in the same pitfalls or to mitigate the systemic challenges.

          • Roger Howard

            …in what way are you “not equal’???…..

          • Ned

            Depends on the view point. Legally, on white paper and black ink… my rights are protected, as a citizen. In practice… people who look like me are given longer and more severe sentencing for similar crimes. Or are deemed suspicious or dangerous for existing in the wrong place at the wrong time. Because law is enforced and justice is doled out by people who have biases.

            In the media, the worse of my culture is exploited and monetized, and used by others to represent my experience. The dominant culture is able to tell diverse stories that fully explore all aspects of humanity, without race being a factor.

            Academically, black history is relegated to a single month instead of being interspersed within American History; black and brown contributions to math and science are treated as novelties; black and brown children are written off as not interested in an education, when their apathy comes from a myriad of systemic problems that jail doesn’t fix.

            Personally, I’m tired of people being afraid of me. I honestly don’t know if it is my height or my skin tone, but I can change neither… I’d probably qualify equality as there being no logical hurdle before someone can see me as a human. The stuff some of the people in here have said have only confirmed my biases… being seen as an equal by the silent majority pales to the palpable hatred shared by people within this comment thread.

          • Debby Morge

            the hate is not for you my friend,it is for the black thugs,and white trash

          • Joe Blow

            When 13% of the population commits 50% of all homicides, then you have little old white ladies cringing in fear when an angry Black man get’s on the elevator with her.
            https://fournews-assets-prod-s3b-ew1-aws-c4-pml.s3.amazonaws.com/media/2014/11/27_bjs_use.jpg

          • Ned

            Wanna cite those figures? The UCR for 2015 says 36.7% of murder offenders were Black. I shouldn’t be treated as a criminal before I commit a crime, regardless of statistics, especially stats that include behavior before I was even born. Old white ladies (60+) are cringing in fear because they would have grown up during a time where it was common place to be fearful of black men and women. They were fearful because they had very skewed representations of black life that painted us as temperamental beasts. And its not the old ladies I care about, as much as the police officer, who is supposed to be objective, and the judge, that is supposed to be unbiased, that I care about using those statistics to target me. Or using those statistics to treat me worse than other Americans.

          • Debby Morge

            i didn’t call you names,you want to be seen the way whites are then dont burn down your towns,cause riots,and blame the ghetto on us, your black leaders sold their own kind down the river,there’s white trash,but this new attitude of fuck the police,is wrong and more black young people that think it’s ok to disrespect the law,are going to wind up dead

          • Ned

            You’re right Debby, you weren’t name-calling, I misdirected that comment, I apologize for that. You’re also right that some of our leaders have capitalized off of the struggle, and those people are opportunist.

            If my recollection serves me right, I don’t think rioting, burning and looting are primarily black-acts. And if there is a riot, it is normally because someone was murdered, not because a sports team won or Woodstock 99 wasn’t as good as the original. I’m not trying to condone rioting, I just don’t think it can be attributed to blacks alone.

            The ghetto is not you’re fault personally, but the history of redlining and not allowing blacks to own land or property; whites fleeing urban centers to go to the suburbs has had a profound influence on generational poverty in the black community.

            The attitude of f*** the police is not too new (if we consider the 90s new) I just think not enough was done to repair the relationship between the some police departments and their communities. Black apathy towards law enforcement is a tragedy… indeed. But everyone needs to come together for a brighter outlook.

          • Debby Morge

            i agree to a point but i hate ,cocky people,especially when there’s no need.i have had cops pull me over when i was young,and believe me i was a asshole,but i knew when to stop,i’ve walked away without trouble,because i kept my mouth shut,and if i felt wronged i took it up the right way,these people are challenging ,the cops and i don’t respect them,there is no changing my mind.i’m old school.i dont like what i see

          • Ned

            I respect that. I agree that there should be a mutual respect between law enforcement and their community.

            I hope you can appreciate that the amount of leeway that you had to be a jerk or that limit that you knew to stop, aren’t the same limits given to other people. Everyone has bad days, but a bad day shouldn’t mean it becomes your last one.

            I’m not trying to be snarky, but what is the right way? The only advice my friend, who’s an officer, gave me was to just submit, even if you’re right. But that seems counter-intuitive to me, especially in a country so proud of its freedoms and righteousness. An unsolicited police encounter will mean having to fight it in court, taking time away from work, maybe legal fees, and it won’t prevent future unsolicited police encounters. I guess its better than being shot, but that’s a pretty grim set of options.

            Or in response to police-shootings… what kind of protest would alright? I mean it… outside of rioting and looting and stopping emergency services, which we agree are bad and counter-productive… what type of protest would make reasonable people like yourself sympathetic to criminal justice reform?

          • Debby Morge

            the thing is as i have gotten older i realize we do live in different worlds,for example not to be petty,but most ihops have added the tip into the check,because the black race thinks they don’t have to leave a tip,i’m not saying all but so many that most waitresses,of any race don’t want to wait on them.i also worked with a black girl who hated cops,she told me,that she got harassed all the time,example,she said she and her boyfriend were sitting in the car with her kid at 2 am,and a cop rolled up and asked what they were doing,well they do that in my hood to,and if cops have a trigger finger,i think it’s because,they know today’ s youth is fucked up,they have no empathy ,and that’s all races,michael brown was not a good boy,he was a criminal,use to getting away with his bull shit.this time he did not,and a riot over someone like him made no sense to me.his whole family were criminals,except the grandmother,then you have black people who before a trial says justice will be done these cops are going down,(mosby) so with her racist remarks the judge threw all the charges out,which had she shut her racist mouth,they probably would have gone down,instead of trying to fix race relations,they are looking to get even,

          • Ned

            Its a shame what waiters and waitresses get paid and that people in the service industry have to rely on tips to earn a living. Tipping should be customary not compulsory…. sometimes people just don’t have the money. I don’t think the entire race doesn’t believe in tipping, but they don’t see the utility in it. I typically tip, but I don’t behold myself to a certain number, I tip what I can, when I can and sometimes in $0.00 and that’s alright. We don’t live in a world, anymore, where going out to eat or having prepared food is a novelty; so wait staff, cooks, buses and bartenders should be getting a livable, taxable wage from their employer, not the patrons.

            I see where you’re coming from in terms of realizing that an officer would approach anyone at 2AM, and that it’s not racially motivated. Sometimes it can just be how the interaction with the police goes… ‘Are you guys alright? Is there a problem?… Have a good night’ is a different experience from ‘What are you guys doing here… alright move along now’. It very well could be my bias, but in my head I would imagine her experience was more the latter and not the former. But the goal is to move past our biases, right?… I really don’t TRULY know how police treat whites different from blacks, but my experience has been treatment with an assumption of guilt.

            I didn’t know Michael Brown… but what I know is that he was unarmed. Sure, he was tall and weighed a lot, but that’s also my situation and I would like to think that walking/running towards/away from an officer doesn’t warrant several bullets in me. His criminal record hasn’t been released, since he just turned 18 before his death… His mom was charged with armed robbery when she didn’t want people capitalizing on her pain. I don’t know them to call them criminals, but there are clear guidelines on which crimes should be met with death. Mike should be in jail for assaulting an officer, not worm food.

            It doesn’t always take racist remarks to forfeit justice… it feels as if the default verdict in cases with black civilians being killed by law enforcement involves the officer being protected and the family getting a settlement. I would think more citizens would be outraged that their municipality rather give those families millions instead of justice.

          • Debby Morge

            i understand what you are saying,but brown was a bully,and he beat the cop bad,i think comply,or risk getting,beat,or shot,or zapped.if i felt my life was in danger by somebody,who i had,no chance in getting away from,i would not hesitate to put that person down,i also think when you have a ccw you put both hands on the wheel,and get out of the car,when the cop tells you,as sad as philando castile’s death was .had he complied not reached,he would be alive,you hear the officer start to panic when the guy reached, i think being told don’t move over and over is pretty.simple,

          • BlueWarrior

            Pull those pants up!

          • Mark Duncan

            The Southern States would never have joined the Union, if slavery were abolished in 1787.

          • Joe Blow

            Both the British and the U.S. outlawed foreign slavery at the same time 1807/8. The vast majority of African slaves went to South America and the Caribbean. Only a small fraction went to the U.S. (About 4%). When actually owning slaves was outlawed at the end of the civil war. The North was the last to free their slaves.

          • Ned

            Outlawed the trade, but they still held the custom. The UK abolished it in the Empire, particularly the West Indies by 1834, the first northern states started abolishing the practice by 1783. The last northern state to abolish it was New Jersey and come on… its New Jersey (proud resident).

            We can pretend like the practice would have gone away without the Civil War, but I’m pretty sure it would have taken decades mores.

          • wa6ilt

            FYI, that was a draft of the Declaration of Independence.

          • Jerry Jolly

            Wrong again Ned. They came from Nigeria, captured by blacks who sold them to a Dutch slaves who transported them to Barbados on Dutch ships to be sold. If blacks want equal treatment then they should do what the vast majority of what whites do: get an education, stay off the streets, get a good job, develop some moral values toward marriage and family, and go to work, period.

          • Ned

            I have nothing but questions for you lol… Wrong about what? Again? You really believe every single new world slave came from Nigeria… a country that wasn’t founded until after the abolition of the trans-Atlantic slave trade? If you had said western Africa, you would have still been wrong but I’d know you were a iota more informed than you’re currently letting on. You care to explain why some members of the African diaspora are genetic admixtures of all corners of the African continent? You also don’t think Europeans had anything to do with their capture… AND you’re right, because?

            Lol this is some paradoxically sh!t right here… real gnarly stuff… in order for ME to get equal treatment, then more people who aren’t ME, have to start acting like ME. Why can’t I just get treated like a white person until I give reason to be treated with suspicion?

          • Jerry Jolly

            No one said anything about you acting white but you should act like a responsible adult. Where is the proof about the Europeans? I’d like to see it. One thing is clear, no where did you say that the people in the US were responsible for the capture and selling of blacks into slavery. The plantation owners did buy workers, they also gave them a name, provided for them, and many saw to the future of their children. True some were mistreated but that was the exception instead of the norm. Many Slave owners in the 16 and 1700s gave freedom to their slaves when they died and provided for the well being of the children of their former slaves until they were 18. This is proven in the wills from that period. After the Emancipation most plantation owners gave land to the freedmen. The vast majority of the freed slaves took the last name of their former owners. All of this was a long time ago. Not one black person in this country today has ever been a slave and not one white person in this country had ever owned slaves. I can prove my direct ancestors from 1709 to today have never owned slaves yet you say all white people. You need to get your facts straight. Can you prove you are a descendant of a slave?

          • Ned

            Please don’t put words in my mouth, I said I wanted to be treated as if I am White, not that I act white. The whole construct of race is silly but I have to live in a world where it matters. And I know what words I chose, to show my appreciation for nuance, regarding what parties were responsible for slavery.

            Congrats on your making it that far down your genealogical journey… I’m not there yet, but do you want me to show you a scanned Jamaican baptismal record with my ancestors name to appease you?

            We are removed from slavery… most whites have family who emmigrated after the civil war. Again things I said earlier. But we ALL are still working through it’s effects. Blacks have been targeted up into the last century, just for their skin color. We have people who believe we think differently because of our nature not our environment. I want to break that cycle before I bring a black child into this world.

          • Jerry Jolly

            You try to put words in mine. It never mattered in my world.

            Sent from my iPad

          • Ned

            Did I now? Lol… We live on Earth, right?

          • Jerry Jolly

            As I said why do you want to be treated as white? I prefer to be treated as an adult human being. If, as you say, you want to break the perception of blacks you should start where the majority of the problem lies…with the racist attitudes of the blacks, the race baiting being done by the blacks standing on the street corner creating hate thru lies and innuendo, those who instill hate at home thru falsehoods and unproven and nonexistent acts of ALL white people. When blacks decide to coexist instead of all this hatred and violence then, and only then, will things be different. During the 50s and 60s the vast majority of the hate was in the democrat controlled south, MS, AL, GA where KKK was prevelant. I know because I lived it. I grew up in southeast TX where we grew up with blacks, worked with blacks, went to school and played sports with blacks, used the same shower rooms, bath rooms, and got along just fine.

            Today, the hatred is toward all whites which is idiocy and untrue. The hate and violence sub culture of the black race is trying incite violence against all whites for something that no whites are responsible for and no blacks endured. There was no great racial divide until it was started 8 years ago. Go ahead with the idiocy and nonsense and it will never change. The ball is in your court, you (the black race) are causing more harm and further divide thru the senseless hatred.

          • Ned

            Yeah, being an adult alone won’t prevent me from being treated like a black adult… Which is equal enough to not be overtly racist, but different enough to be biased. You painted a wonderful picture of the world you live in, and it’s unfortunate we don’t have the same world view (boy your world sounds great though). So that means we need to unify some terms.
            Is a racist, one who: A) acknowledges race, B) believes in their races superiority, C) Believes they live in a racist system. For me it’s (B). Blacks who have dillusions of being Egyptian or Jewish or anything that tries to combat the erasure of our history with black supremacy, I’m not down for that and I’m as vocal with them as i am here. I hope you condemn their white counterparts as vehemently.

            What does it matter if it was a Democratic or Republican south… The people didn’t change, their party affiliations did. Our attorney general worked hard as a lawyer and senator to dis-empower blacks.

            The past 8yrs huh? Do you believe that because you don’t see something, then it isn’t happening? The insinuation that an Obama presidency caused the racial divide is an idictiment on what the country was able to hide until 2008. Something about a black man as POTUS was a nucleating point for hatred that was once diffuse and ignored. The people wondering where all the hatred is coming from either have short memories or weren’t paying attention.

      • Jkb Bell

        you claim victimization but unless you are more than 56 years of age there has not been one year in America where your race has been the victim of interracial violent crime then whites that are the victims of black on white interracial violent crime. despite the fact that there are five times as many white people in America and fifty years ago there were eight times as many white people in America there is more interracial black on white violence every single year than white on black interracial violent crime for at least the last 56 years. As a matter of fact there is more than double the amount of interracial violent crime black against White then there is White against black at the same time that we outnumber you 5 to 1 that is the very definition of insanely out of proportion you have to talk about s*** that did not happen to you that happened before you were born but I’ve been here for four decades and every year that I’ve been on this Earth black on white interracial violent crime outnumbers white on black by a substantial margin so give me a f****** break if I don’t buy your b******* victimization argument because white people are the ones that have been victimized for the last half a century and the statistics the proof back me up

        • Ned

          Hmmmm… in 2015, 15.8% of all homicides with white victims were perpetrated by a black person and 8.6% of all black homicide victims perpetrated by a white person; 17% of all homicides committed by blacks were white victims and 8% of all homicides committed by whites were black victims (UCR Expanded Homicide Table 6). And those percentages have been consistent at least since the turn of the millennium. Yes, 8.6 is almost 1/2 of 15.8, and 17% is double 8… but the stronger interpretation of that stat is that a greater percentage of the victims of both races belong to their own race. Unfortunately there are no official records of race of police officers and police involved shooting victims. Which is the issue at hand.

          I don’t believe any amount of black on black crime should justify my human rights being restricted off the strength that I’m black… so no, I have no f****** breaks to be given, and I’m not selling manure so you can keep your money in your wallet. I’m just tryna be treated like a white person. If I could be treated with the brand of ‘victimization’ that you’ve been feeling for the past 50 years, I would… in a heartbeat.

          I don’t think I’ve made any claims for victim-hood… just tryna humanize the people that are being called animals.

      • A Fucking LEAF

        Google the Barbary Slave Trade. Stop your bitching and whining. Africa is great this time of year, why don’t you go back?

        • Ned

          Either you’re too lazy to read the other comments or just want to use the tired ‘Go back to Africa’ Line…but I briefly touched on the Arab slave trade. I know who sold my ancestors to white men or helped in the raids. I know who have sold their own people; I also know who carried out the cultural genocide that followed.

          I’d probably start in caribbean though… better climate. Help bring my people into the 21st century… I mean thanks to the internet I’d still be able to complain for brother’s and sisters who don’t have the means to leave… or due to ethnic mixing have no clue where in Africa to transplant themselves. But I bet you don’t care about the logistics, you just want to be witty. 😉

          Go back to Europe, if you’re tired of people who look like me speaking up about how this country could be better. I mean, you’d have a lower likelihood for your progeny to look like me.

    • Joe Blow

      This is what they actually say on their website. There’s also a book written about it ‘From #BlackLivesMatter to Black Liberation’. This is what is on their official website: “Black Lives Matter is a chapter-based national organization working for the validity of Black life. We are working to (re)build the Black liberation movement.”

  • Sleepy

    Two hate groups in one small town. Right away blm starts bashing police. Peaceful they aren’t. Should have let them go after each other.

  • Allen Cruce

    Change this to “Knock Out” gas to make it easier to subdue troublemakers.

  • TheOldGuy

    People should have listened to the town leaders and not paid any attention to the KKK clowns. Well, since they didn’t listen the KKK got exactly what they wanted. They held a peaceful rally and some BLM members(?) became violent, were gassed and arrested when they refused to disperse. Which was counter intuitive to the purpose of their counter rally.

  • Did I hear that right? The Chocolate Klan has occupied a police station?

  • duder1897

    All the BLM people stripped up are white dudes. It’s like if Jewish people were doing Jihad for Islamists. Only white people are this fucking stupid.

    • Lawman49

      Some!

      • Wolfguy II

        all

  • Katrina

    “totally discredited fringe organization” (KKK) It wasn’t this “discredited” organization causing the trouble. As usual, it was BLM. I am no supporter of either of these, but the KKK had a permit and didn’t cause problems. Pretty sad when a group like KKK shows more character than the Lying Matters group.

    • Ned

      Lmao… I didn’t know there was much character in registration… Forget their rhetoric, this permit right here makes them legit…

      • SHOTGUN285

        Doesn’t make them legit, makes them law abiding (at least in this instance). The difference between you and me is that I hate the bigots that are the same color as me (KKK), yet you embrace the ones that you feel look like you (BLM).

        • Ned

          I have 23 chromosomes, I’m a human, so I look like the KKK too. I probably share enough DNA with some of them to be distant cousins. I don’t know where I condoned bigotry, but I’ll go through the rest of the comments to see where you’ve pointedly opposed bigotry in this comment thread.

          Can I think Black Lives Matter and not be a bigot?

          • SHOTGUN285

            Ned, the lives of black human beings matter, we shouldn’t even have to say that in this day and age, it should be just an assumption. However, if you support the marxist political movement also known as Black Lives Matter, then yes, i would consider you a bigot.

          • Ned

            I knew we were more similar than different. Unfortunately for us, there is a need to emphasize the value of black life… Jury’s across the nation devalue black lives when an officer kills a black person and they don’t receive comparable justice to when we kill our own. My life is devalued when I look at people who look like me being demonized for simply asking for justice. The fringe players of BLM have created this shroud that Americans can’t look past and that proves that I am valued the same as the worse of us… The looters, arsonists and criminals use our efforts of readjusting the status quo as opportunities for anarchy. They do not represent the movement truly.

            I just need to make sure that we aren’t lumping socialism into the communism bucket, because there are a few differences between the two. I’m far from Marxist, but i believe our democracy, as we practice it, needs a LOT of work.

          • Ned

            My belief is that if we are looking to move forward together there needs to be dialogue… Facilitated by both sides. Raw honest conversation about our fears and our needs. That’s when we realize we’re in the same boat so we might as well set a common destination.

            I don’t seek black supremacy… And I don’t see BLM as a vehicle for that. If there weren’t a rash of highly publicized police shootings, BLM wouldn’t focus it’s ire on the criminal Justice system… The one that makes you feel safe and some us like we’re a traffic stop away from death.

          • Katrina

            I agree with so many of your points, especially the dialogue. That includes listening to the opposing side as well as speaking. I sometimes think these forums do more harm than good. People misunderstand and respond with disrespect which gets answered with more disrespect. I’ve fallen into that trap when I let my emotions take over.

            I think the biggest divide in the discussion is BLM itself and it has nothing to do with black lives. BLM is heavily funded by George Soros. His history shows that he has no good intentions. He has influenced financial ruin in entire countries, financed rebellions and encourages anarchy. He doesn’t give a fig about black lives. He doesn’t give a fig about white lives or police lives. Only himself and using anything and anyone as a means to an end, whatever that is. It has never been good.

            I have a lot of questions for BLM, the main one being why did they show up at this KKK rally? What death of a black person were they protesting? Why were they attacking police? What did it have to do with their cause? What was their purpose? Did they have something productive to call attention to?

            I have so many more questions, but one last for now. I’ve heard so much about the “talk” that black mothers are forced to give their young boys to keep them alive when they come into contact with police. They want to add similar to school curriculum, but BLM is opposed. Why? (by the way, that same talk is given to all children I know and it is based on simple respect and politeness. If you want to fight something, it is done in court, not on the street)

          • Ned

            So apparently I’ve had a few comments deleted… and I don’t really know why. So I guess this conversation has rules that I don’t understand so I don’t know what I’m to do here

          • Ned

            not sure if its Disqus or site moderator. I was trying not to use curse words or make ad hominin attacks… honestly sorry for trying to have meaningful discussion… maybe I’ll see you guys on another site… really good speaking to you Katrina and Shotgun!

          • Katrina

            I was hoping there was a way we could directly email each other through this program without having to post our address publicly. Does anyone know if this is possibe?

          • Carl F Bruschnig Jr

            Looks like Ned has a twitter account. Click on his name, go to his page. You could send him a tweet, he could respond to it.

          • Carl F Bruschnig Jr

            Sometimes, when someone gets a bug up their arse, they start filing a sh*tload of complaints. This usually leads to the other persons posts getting deleted. It used to happen to me a lot, until I found a contact in one of the boards who told me who it was that had the grudge. One thing I would do is to post once, wait an hour, then post it again.

          • Mark Duncan

            Unfortunately, you need to support a racist group like BLM because you are a failure and are looking for someone to blame.

            “I ain’t shit. It must be Whitey’s fault!” Hahahahaha!

          • Ned

            wow… you put me in a very precarious spot… either respond with equally vitriolic language and confirm all of your assumptions about me.. or let you get away with spouting hate speech.

            You’re not a very well informed person… and it shows. You don’t troll well @disqus_553kcp8w74:disqus, try again.

          • Mark Duncan

            Not trolling. Presenting facts.

          • Ned

            Lmao, couldn’t even read it with a straight face, I could imagine the grin on your face while you were typing.

          • Mark Duncan

            Here’s one of your Black Lies Matter thugs, who has been fully rehabilitated.

            http://www.uschronicle.com/blm-activist-shot-killed-breaking-police-officers-home-activist-previously-threatened-officer/

          • Ned

            hmmm… interesting, looks like he was killed. Is that what you mean by rehabilitation?

          • Mark Duncan

            That is the only way to fully rehabilitate one of these BLM animals.

          • Ned

            Why is that?

          • Mark Duncan

            Because as long as it is breathing, the Feral Pavement Ape will continue to menace society.

          • Ned

            Hmm… I see we’re name calling again… a sign of desperation and lack of substance… wanna hit me with the 52% of violent crimes again?

          • Ned

            Curious… why is death the only recourse?

          • Mark Duncan

            You are better qualified to answer that than me. I do not understand why it is nearly impossible to integrate blacks into civil society. Why do you suppose that is?

    • jennifer

      listen up Katrina. YOU are a supporter of BLM, you just supported them in your statement. lol
      and KKK got their needed permits and then woozed out and left.
      BLM stayed even though they were told to GO….
      now HOW is that not CLEAR??
      GO or YOU get TEAR GAS.
      plain for ALL. you included.

      • Katrina

        Please expain how it sounds to you like I support BLM? What in my statement supports them?

        • SHOTGUN285

          Jennifer has a reading comprehension issue apparently.

          • Katrina

            I wasted time going over and over my post to try to understand what she was talking about, then looked at her other posts. She seems to be an angry, rude person looking for a fight with shouting, name calling and vulgar language. I chalk it up to insecurity and attention seeking. Your every day troll with nothing useful to say. Not my circus. Bye Felecia!

  • Fltflyer

    It’s great to see more and more law enforcement agencies push back on these illegal activities instead of letting them continue to riot, loot, and burn. Next should be instant arrests of anyone illegally blocking a roadway.

  • michael

    Yee Hah! Let ’em have it boyz. Next time Mustard or Saran.

    • Ned

      Hmmm… that’s a good idea, make martyrs out of them so that people really know how you feel about Black Lives… Great way to advance the cause of BLM.

    • Highest common denominator

      Mustard and saran? Like Saran wrap? Are you making sandwiches?

  • William Tell

    Naïve, stupid, White liberals demonstrating with Black racists that hate all White cops, and White people in general. They’d load the gun that would be used to shoot them, BLM is nothing but a terrorist organization. White fools with them will one day be licking their boots.

    • Phoenix Angelfire

      absolutely spot on. The useful idiots. Nothing more tragic than a liberal redneck

    • Lawman49

      Agreed. I have never understood why they allow themselves to be used like this!

    • Katrina

      I think cop haters come in all colors. They are too cowardly to speak on their own, so being in a group gives them the opportunity to voice their disrespect and hate. They blame police for enforcing the laws they don’t like. Too ignorant to know that police don’t make the laws. Gutter trash has no respect for itself and transfers that lack of respect on those in authority. They know they will never amount to anything, but are jealous of those (like police) that do.

  • LEO

    Whenever the Black Lives Matter idiots are involved I am never shocked by the outcome. Good job CPD.

  • gregzotta

    If they are blocking the streets and sidewalks preventing people to freely move about their business they are a MOB and the police need to start arresting the mob. Any criminal behavior should be dealt with immediately and the perpetrators arrested and taken away.

  • Some Poor Hobo

    Antagonostic Soro’s puppets is Black Lies Matter. I’d be mad too ifin I wuz black.

  • Vince

    BLM are far too stupid to understand the fact of ignoring something is better then worsening it by be baited.
    The police should have used water cannons

  • Liberal Male=Cucked Sissy Male

    The thing that jumps out most at me is that – knowing the KKK were armed and would defend themselves – the BLM supporters did not attack the KKK. Nope. They went for the safe course of action of harassing the police.

    • Mark Duncan

      Typical, gutless negroes. They will only attack when they have superior numbers, or the opponent is hamstrung by policy. Like this.

      • Ned

        wow a gutless, blood-thirsty negro… would love to meet that oxymoron… must have been the same lazy, hard-working one that beat you out for that promotion you weren’t qualified for.

  • rongway

    BLM and KKK are two sides to the same coin.

  • UptownLady

    KKK & BLM, 2 sides of the same bigoted, racist coin.

  • WHATEVER

    every generation has their morons it just turns out your gen group is the blm a group of morons who have nothing better to do live off tax payers money and support criminals and get media exposure. but like all fad groups it will fade away and it’s followers twill pay the price for the rest of their lives. their pictures are out there and chances are they will not work in the professional world. or really make anything of them self’s as for it trouble makers well they will just end up in jail and forgotten.

  • Ooops_6805

    “The only thing they seem to want is division and confrontation and a twisted kind of celebrity”
    Must have been referring to the BLM crowd?

  • Curtis A. Selby Sr.

    Walmart contines to sell online Anti-Police BLM clothing: https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=black%20lives%20matter

  • Jim Replogle

    KKK and BLM members are very very stupid !!!! There are two kinds of humans, #1 good people and they come in ALL RACES AND SKIN COLORS then there is #2 type of human, the AHole and again they come in ALL RACES AND SKIN COLORS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • sarms58

    There was a KKK rally in my town a few years back…the churches organized a counter protest but you had to agree that you wouldn’t engage the cone heads in any arguments…I just didn’t go because making fun of those guys is just too easy and I knew I wouldn’t be able to be part of the silent protest…I think the best strategy is to ignore them but BLM wants their own publicity so they came in force…plus, many in today’s would want to shutdown anything done by those they don’t agree with…we se that especially on college campuses where opposing views are preventing from speaking…I say let everyone speak – just don’t give them an audience…

  • Peggy Finley

    What a freakin mess!! Glad that no Officers were injured!

  • canuck

    Why should one cop be injured dispersing a hostile crowd when tear gas is available. BLM doesn’t like it….tough shit, the cops must be doing something right.

  • Do not pay attention to this article it’s date July 8 2017 some of the tweets are dated July 8 2017, it appears to be a scam…..Fake News intersperse with real news.

  • A Fucking LEAF

    I know “DefendingCville” looks (kind of) like a woman, but that’s actually a man. He got on his Twatter and posted a video calling out the rest of his commie friends for not showing up to fight free speech.