Video Breakdown Of Lawrence Crosby Story, ‘Black Man Beaten For Stealing His Own Car’

Video of Lawrence Crosby, "beaten for stealing his own car," shows something else.

Video of Lawrence Crosby, “beaten for stealing his own car,” shows something else.

Lawrence Crosby ‘Beaten For Stealing Own Car’ Video

Evanston, IL – Video footage from an October 2015 incident showing the arrest of Lawrence Crosby has recently been released and is causing outrage. The narrative is that a black man was beaten by police for stealing his own car, but that’s actually not what happened at all.

First, watch the video and we’ll break it down after the jump:

The incident started when a woman was walking down the road when she noticed Lawrence Crosby using a metal bar on window molding.

If anybody witnesses this, they should call the police. When this sort of thing goes unreported, officers show up later to take a theft report only to find that a witness had seen the suspect, but they hadn’t called the police because they weren’t 100% sure that they weren’t legit. This sort of thing happens all of the time. People should always report suspicious activity. People don’t need to know before calling; it’s the job of law enforcement to investigate if the suspicious activity is illegal or not.

The 911 caller said, “I don’t know if I am racial profiling…” Which, when heard in hindsight, makes it look like she was racial profiling. However, she called for entirely reasonable suspicious activity which had nothing to do with Lawrence Crosby’s race, and over-publicized incidents like these cause people to hesitate when they witness illegal activity.

Evanston Police Officers were dispatched to Lawrence Crosby’s vehicle for somebody matching Lawrence Crosby’s description who “just broke into” a car. The officers located Crosby driving and got behind the vehicle to execute a “high-risk stop.”

The Evanston PD officers only knew what they were told. They were told that the vehicle had been broken into by a person matching the description of the driver and that he had driven off. Officers did exactly what they were supposed to do and they stopped the car as if it were a stolen vehicle with the suspect inside.

Stopping stolen vehicles is a high-risk incident because officers are dealing with people who are in the middle of committing a felony, and they got caught red-handed. If the suspects get caught, they are likely going to prison, potentially for many years, which leads them to frequently fight or run. Because of the high-risk nature of these stops, officers take every precaution.

Lawrence Crosby stopped his car and immediately got of the car with something in his hand. Immediately getting out of the car on a traffic stop is what people who fight or run do, and so it’s generally a bad idea for people to get out of the car on traffic stops until ordered to do so. Getting out of the car with something in your hand which could be mistaken for a weapon is also a good way to get shot. Crosby is lucky that all of the officers apparently recognized that he wasn’t holding a gun. Officers then ordered Crosby to put his hands up and he did.

Officers ordered Crosby to get on the ground, and instead of getting on the ground, he stood still. Officers had time to approach Crosby while yelling at him to get on the ground, and Crosby didn’t react.

Police officers are trained to get high-risk suspects prone because it makes it much more difficult for the suspects to fight or run. It’s fairly standard training to put these suspects in a position of disadvantage, which is why, if you watch enough dash or body camera videos, the officers are always telling people to get on the ground.

Rather than getting on the ground, Lawrence Crosby suddenly turned like he was going to run or lunge for a weapon. Officers grabbed him and they continued to order him to get on the ground. Crosby still did not obey the commands to get on the ground. Furthermore, because Crosby was contracting his muscles to resist the officers’ efforts to get him on the ground (the video makes it apparent he is resisting the officers’ efforts,) he moved from simply being non-compliant to actively resisting.

When somebody is actively resisting arrest, officers can (and often should) strike them. The officers still didn’t know who this guy was or if he was armed. What they did know is that he was a suspected car thief, caught in a suspected stolen car, who refused commands, looked like he was going to take off or lunge for something, and he was actively resisting arrest.

The longer that situations like this go on, the more chance there is for the suspect to access a weapon or escape. Officers are taught to end active resistance as fast as possible for everyone’s safety. Hitting somebody who’s resisting arrest can get them to loosen up enough to be handcuffed.

The officers hit Lawrence Crosby only as long as it took to get his arms under control, and then they stopped. Once he was fully under control, the officers were able to investigate and determine that Crosby was driving his own vehicle.

The way that this incident should have happened is that when officers stopped Lawrence Crosby, Crosby should have remained in his car until ordered out, and he should have followed all orders until he was securely handcuffed. Officers would have then investigated and released Cosby when they determined that he didn’t do anything wrong. Instead, Crosby did not comply with commands and he resisted arrest.

Lawrence Crosby did not get hit because he was driving his car, he was not hit because somebody saw him “breaking in” to his car, he was hit because he was actively resisting arrest, and striking a suspect who is actively resisting arrest is an appropriate level of force.

You may be wondering how Lawrence Crosby was “resisting arrest” when he couldn’t have been arrested for driving his car, and I’ll explain. When you got stopped by a police officer for any actual or suspected violation, you are detained and obligated to obey officers’ lawful orders. Officers can control where you move and what you do, for everyone’s safety. When Crosby failed to comply with orders to get on the ground, he was failing to obey the lawful orders of a police officer. In most (all?) jurisdictions, that’s a crime.

If you don’t move where/when officers tell you to, the officer will make you move. Depending on the level of danger that the officers judge in a situation, you may be afforded more leeway in not immediately obeying or being able to argue with the officer. However, Lawrence Crosby was stopped in a high-risk situation. No suspects in high-risk situations are afforded the chance to do anything except comply immediately, because any other action may be done to kill the officers or escape.

Lawrence Crosby’s failure to comply with the officers’ commands led to his arrest for Disobeying Officers, and subsequent additional charges of Resisting Arrest when he resisted arrest. Those charges were later dismissed in court, but just because somebody isn’t successfully charged in a court of law doesn’t mean they didn’t actually commit the crime.

In a review of the situation it was determined that all of the officers acted lawfully and within policy, but backlash has forced change. Per a policy change, Evanston PD officers are no longer supposed to order a suspect to get on the ground during a high-risk stop.

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  • SEB8591

    And yet, the optics are terrible.
    half a year ago, a black man was shot in St Paul Mn, just a few blocks from where I lived in the 1980’s. Accidental…maybe. Bad decisions on both sides…maybe. But in any case it was tragic; why cant ANYONE admit that?

  • Demos

    resisting unlawful arrest is illegal ??

    although the camera quality is bad i can see is not a danger !!
    pocket or mobile is in his hands !!
    even if it was a gun by the way he keeps it is not danger !!

    i count 6 officers attacking someone !! and this is too much !!
    the repeated punching after several people have him down is the worst part !

    Crosby was arrested and charged with disobeying officers and resisting police, according to the police report. A judge later threw out the charges.

    why the judge throw out the charges ?? we have it in video ! why no charges then ??

    also what you say about that :

    Later, when officers learned that Crosby was the registered owner of the car and had a valid license, they decided to charge him with disobeying a police officer and resisting arrest.

    • PB Cole

      No evidence whasoever of a crime. It takes what?? . . a couple of minutes to verify who owns the car and pull a license out of his pockets. Citizens have rights. No one should be treated this way.

    • stk33

      > resisting unlawful arrest is illegal ??

      Absolutely. More specifically, the suspect is not in position to decide whether the arrest is legal or not. The court is.

      • Demos

        stk33

        why the judge throw out the charges ??
        we have it in video ! why no charges then ??

        • stk33

          > why the judge throw out the charges ??

          Because the guy in fact did not resist, and resisting charge was made up. It’s kinda absurd to charge with resisting someone who has emerged with his hands up. That’s one reason. Another is that chargeable offense is not just any resisting, but resisting the arrest. In this case, the guy was not told that he was under arrest, so he was free to resist however he wanted.

          That’s my own guess. Of course, the judge might have totally different reasons.

  • PB Cole

    Multiple officers get out and rough up a car owner – all without running a registration confirmation, or asking for a driver’s license. No proof whatsoever that a car was being stolen. Something is so wrong with that.

  • Freddie DC

    The author apparently haven’t seen the part of the video when cops realize they’ve fkd up. You can hear them saying “we gotta charge him with something”. Or when one cop callously tells the young man, “I could have shot you”.
    Instead of admitting, it was an overreaction on their part, they plot a bogus charge that could’ve negatively affected this man’s life.

    Your battle cry has been, COMPLY COMPLY COMPLY. You can’t fully comply when you have a bunch of jacked up yahoos who are anxious to use people has target practice

    • disqus_dMqDrb1PeU

      “We gotta charge him with something” and the lack of these officers facing any discipline for this statement and the entire incident is exactly why so many don’t trust the police and the DA.

    • adrshepard

      They had to charge him with something because he resisted arrest and disobeyed lawful orders.

      Officers yelled at him to get on the ground for about 6 seconds. The word “ground” is clearly audible. Did he think they were talking about geology?

      • Dave

        Are you kidding me? He had multiple armed men moving towards him while screaming incoherently… This is a travesty.

        • adrshepard

          They are all saying “get on the ground.” It’s pretty clear from 0:26 onward.

          He certainly doesn’t look confused or surprised. He just stands there.

          • Dave

            What a ridiculous comment. He’s surrounded by guns and people yelling!

          • adrshepard

            And they’re yelling the word “ground” over a dozen times. What could they possibly mean by that?

            Look at his face. Is it wide-eyed, darting around at all the officers? Does he freeze in place in a state of panic when the officer approaches him? Does he flinch, or back away, or make a run for it?

            No, it’s a perfectly level expression. He even tries talking to them. When the officer comes near he casually turns around to do who knows what.

            Mind you, this is two seconds after he stops his vehicle. He was looking for a confrontation and knew exactly what he wanted to do. He was even on the phone complaining to someone else about how annoying it was the police were called while he was fixing his car at night. Don’t try to pretend that he was surprised and confused at what was happening.

          • SrAgri

            Really? He wanted to be slammed to ground and beaten?

            Crosby no doubt felt that a clear explanation of the situation would ease tension. He is only guilty of not understanding gang mentality. No one wanted to think or talk – they wanted to fight.

          • adrshepard

            He wanted to make a statement in a passive aggressive way, which exiting your car and facing the cops with your hands up unrequested is. Like the article says, the vast majority of the time, people who exit their car either flee or fight. He had his hands up, which really means he is two seconds away from being dangerous. He could have a hidden gun or knife, waiting to pull it when an cop gets close to handcuff him and other officers are less likely to fire. It’s happened before. His attempt to “ease tension” had the exact opposite effect, which I can’t believe he didn’t anticipate given that he has claimed to been racially profiled before, and therefore probably has had interactions with the cops in the past.

            If he wanted to give an explanation, he should have stayed in his car like any normal person would. All these claims that he would have been shot searching for his license are absolute fantasy, given that it happens without incident for nearly every single stop across the country. When you’re pulled over, you’re being detained, and your responsibility is to obey the officer’s commands and not do anything stupid. He failed.

          • SrAgri

            I find it interesting that you place full responsibility for a traffic stop on the person being stopped. When people are frightened, they react different ways, sometimes illogically. Police officers have special training and should know how to react. If they were so alarmed by Crosby getting out of his vehicle, they could have simply told him to get back in the vehicle.

            There are plenty of situations where someone gets defiant and hostile during a legal and reasonable traffic stop or interaction. I can see why the “resisting” charge is used in those instances. I don’t see how Crosby’s actions even come close to reaching that point.

            Fortunately for society, you don’t get to determine the rules of police engagement. A judge has already dismissed the trumped up “resisting” charges and a jury will likely express their disapproval of police actions in a civil case.

          • adrshepard

            I do place full responsibility on them. There was no reason for him to be frightened. Seeing one or two videos on the internet is not a reason to believe that all cops are going to just start shooting for no reason at all.

            They were alarmed by Crosby getting out of the vehicle because it was an aggressive act that cut down their tactical advantage. It’s much easier to attack a cop standing up outside a car than sitting down inside one. For all they knew, he was a car thief high on drugs and ready to start something. Telling him to get back in the car would be stupid because it’d give him the opportunity to get a weapon unseen.

          • Marc Watt

            Listen man. I am white. Grew up in Detroit. My grannies brother was Detroit cop…he bragged constantly with impunity. I saw it in the streets. With my own eyes. Black men are targeted by law enforcement no doubt.

            I always have to ask after one of these videos pops, what if that was your 65 year old mother, perhaps confused about orders, knowing she did no crime, as this man obviously knew, and on the news you see video of her being body slammed and jumped on. And told to stop resisting. She is charged and lodged in county. Would you still be so willing to give police so much power?

          • SrAgri

            “There was no reason for him to be frightened.”

            Really? Have you ever had people come at you with guns? Maybe you’re cool with people pointing guns at you, but most people are not. It makes them very nervous.

            Many people have a fear of police. It comes from the aggressive manner that they deal with people. Many law-abiding citizens are afraid of police because of incidents that they have seen personally or heard about. This is not new to the internet video age. As an example, Alfred Hitchcock had a morbid fear of police.

            Police are allowed to funnel their anxiety and fear (which you somehow consider to be rational in their case) into aggression and bad judgment, which is okay by you. The average citizen, though, is not allowed to be confused or nervous. They must be calm and collected or they have obvious criminal intent.

          • Leonora

            …I clearly heard someone say, put your hands in the air while someone else was saying get on the ground………………………He got out with his hands up. I fear for this young man’s life if he had stayed in the car…they probably would have shot him in the head or like 10 times if he reached for his licence and registration…There is no way to justify this. Again, I implore you to watch this video again and really listen, he is being told both to put his hands up and get to the ground…. now unless he plans to just fall forward onto the ground with his hands up (that might hurt), he needs to move his hands and body to comply…They then proceed to rush him and so many men trying to force you down to the ground from different angles, holding your hands….please just get up from wherever you are right now and just put your hands behind your back and fall face first on to the floor…..the natural reflex of a HUMAN is to stop the fall…they all just rushed at him so quickly and all started trying to drag him down….I don’t believe that anyone stands in the mirror at home practicing how to fall on to their face for when police attack them…..Furthermore, at one point when he is already on the ground and the guy in red is STILL punching him, he asks why is he being arrested and an officer tells him, “it doesn’t matter”……………………………………………………….what the actual FUDGE!?!!!! A lot of you people are in denial….this is absurd and highly uncalled for – police brutality at its finest.

          • adrshepard

            Really? You fear for his life if he stayed in the car and did what thousands of motorists do each day without incident? You can hear the police talking before he gets out of the car. Do they sound like they’re about to rush in guns blazing or do they sound like its a routine stop?

            I watched it again. They yell hands up for about a second. From 0:26 onward it’s pretty clear they are all yelling “on the ground.”

            “He moves his hands and body to comply”
            In no way does he do so. He puts his hands down and turns in the opposite direction. Complying would be to get on his knees and fall forward. Easy to do with your hands up. Try it.

            He resists from the very first man. Look at his arms. The cops try to put them behind his back but he clearly resists, putting them in a V position from about 0:31 to 0:33. At that point he’s forfeited the option to go to ground cleanly and should just go limp, which he doesn’t do.

            I looked it up. Limited punches to non-vital muscle groups (like the legs and thighs, which happens here) are acceptable to enforce compliance. It’s pain driven compliance and doesn’t cause serious injury. You can look it up for yourself if you don’t believe me.

            What officers say during an arrest doesn’t make one bit of difference unless they deliberately lie about legal procedure (like saying someone isn’t free to go when they are.) Talking to someone in the midst of a takedown and in the heat of the moment is different.

          • Marc Watt

            Absolutely, with all the confusing contradictory orders,i am surprised be didn’t get shot anyhow. Cops have got to learn how to read av situation, this called for desculation….Not ramped up fight or flight response. Terrible policing

      • BluesStringer1955 .

        Even if there were some law saying that six seconds is too long to not qualify a subject as being a bonafide threat to their safety, his hands were visible and raised in the universal symbol for, “I surrender!” And even if six seconds was too long to hug the Earth because a bunch of thugs in costume ordered him to, those thugs had no justifiable reason to kick him in the face or beat on him anyplace else on his body.

        You are a thug-lover.

        • adrshepard

          Having your arms raised isn’t enough. He is still capable of resisting arrest while standing up, as he proceeds to do in the video. Police are trained to subdue potentially combative suspects on the ground. A guy suspected of stealing a car certainly qualifies.

          • Prontojim

            He was turning around to lie down. If he had leaned forward to lie down he would have been immediately shot. If you go towards the police they say you are charging. If you turn around, you are attempting to flee. Shot either way.

          • adrshepard

            You’re bringing up absurdities. A man on his knees going to ground would be seen as charging?
            And no, you’re clearly not shot either way. Police tell people to get on the ground and it happens without them being shot. It has happened many, many times.

            Give me a break, man.

          • SrAgri

            “Police are trained to subdue potentially combative suspects on the ground.”
            Herein lies the problem. Who is “potentially combative”? Whoever the police want to intimidate and/or “teach a lesson”.

          • adrshepard

            People suspected of committing felonies who take aggressive action after encountering the police. That’s who.

          • SrAgri

            IF you consider Mr. Crosby’s actions to be “aggressive”, I sincerely hope that you are not a police officer.

          • adrshepard

            Any unrequested action on the part of a suspect that reduces a police officer’s tactical advantage (or put another way, physical control of the situation) is an aggressive act.

            I’m not a police officer, but my opinions are consistent with their training and what courts have found to be reasonable.

          • Robin W. Tong

            The courts have found a lot of fucking bullshit to be reasonable. Since when is it reasonable in a free society for government to sanction the assault and murder of innocent persons because they failed to ‘obey’ police?

            That is a police state, in which citizens can be murdered by government agents that have a license to kill with impunity. And it is pure bullshit.

          • Marc Watt

            Well they ought be untrained. Simple de escalate the situation

      • Prontojim

        6 seconds. They were also yelling get your hands up. And which way should he get on the ground? Lean forward or turn and lean down. Either way he was going to lose. As we saw.

        • adrshepard

          They were also yelling get your hands up. In the first two seconds. Afterwards, it’s “Get on the ground.”

          How would he get on the ground? Uh, the obvious way. Facing them, knees first, then the rest. No problem.

          Are you really going to argue that this PhD student who had complained about being profiled before (and therefore likely had previous interactions with police) really had no idea how this worked?

      • SrAgri

        “They had to charge him with something because he resisted arrest and disobeyed lawful orders.”
        I think you mean that they had to charge him with something so that he would be forced to plea bargain and admit to a lesser charge, which would undermine any chance he had of a civil suit against the police. He told them he had footage of the arrest and they knew they messed up. They were conspiring to suppress the case.

        Charging people with “resisting arrest” when there is no valid basis for arrest in the first place is completely absurd. It’s done routinely by police forces around the country and many state laws specifically provide for this, but it is ridiculous.

        • adrshepard

          No, I meant he resists arrest, which is abundantly clear on the video. I don’t really give a damn what wording the cops used. The crime is self evident.

          If you want to get legal about it, resisting arrest under Illinois statute also includes obstructing, as in obstructing an investigation into a claim of auto theft.

          It’s not absurd. The suspect does not get to decide when or if an arrest is unreasonable. To say that they should is to invite violent resistance.

          • SrAgri

            Actually, there was no “claim of auto theft”, there was only suspicion.

            People driving along not breaking laws just don’t understand why the should be expected to lay on the cold, possibly wet ground for no reason. Although the officers technically had a legal right to make Crosby lay bound on the ground, a little common sense would have gone a long way here.

            The police department realizes that the situation was ridiculous. That’s why they changed their policy. If it was a great and reasonable policy to begin with, they would not have changed it.

          • adrshepard

            Call it what you want. That suspicion is reasonable cause to make the stop.

            People not breaking the laws don’t have to understand the reason. They don’t know the whole story. For all they know, a violent rapist fitting their description just escaped custody or recently committed a crime. They are expected to obey (within reason, obviously). I agree that common sense would have been appropriate–on his part. The police were just being cautious.

            The police didn’t change their policy because of a reasonable argument presented against it, they did it for political reasons. If you had’t noticed, some communities have a lot of ill will against the police, most of it undeserved, but departments regularly try to appease their concerns as a show of good faith.

          • SrAgri

            “They are expected to obey (within reason, obviously).”
            So dropping your smartphone on the ground and then laying face down on cold, wet pavement is perfectly reasonable any time the police want you to do it? Would the police pay for a new phone or reimburse you for your dry cleaning? What if you cut or injured? Will they pay your medical bills?

            “I agree that common sense would have been appropriate–on his part.”
            You expect citizens who may have a dozen interactions with police in their lifetime to know how to handle the situation perfectly, but you don’t think that police, who handle such situations daily, should utilize any common sense if someone doesn’t do things the way that they are most comfortable with?

          • adrshepard

            Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable. You think I would choose facing down a gun rather than getting a little wet or damaging my smartphone? Hell no.

            The rest of things you are saying are frankly, just stupid. As if there’s no way for someone to lie on the ground without seriously injuring one’s self.

            Police know how to deal with situations from the perspective of safety. So many people look at this incident without realizing that in terms of the police response, the fact that the car belonged to him or that he may have been confused (which he wasn’t) is entirely irrelevant. Only the police perspective matters.

            When you think a car could be stolen and the first thing the suspect does is jump out when pulled over, that’s not normal behavior for an innocent person just driving along, minding his own business. Whatever claims he makes about it being his car are irrelevant because he could just as easily be lying. And since he represents a potential threat who has already made an aggressive action, the only sensible option for a police officer is to neutralize the threat with as little force as possible. It is not common sense to automatically believe a suspect and lower one’s guard.

          • SrAgri

            You’re probably right. The police are super-human paladins of the human race who are incapable of wrong and should never be questioned.

          • Brian Youse

            You’re completely mistaken, and cowardly. You’re acting as it the guns made the pigs in this situation automatically right.

            If you watch the video, he did attempt to get on the ground as soon as possible, and did not resist the cops one iota. He had absolutely no reason why six angry psychos were charging him.

            Like the cop who killed Philando Castille, or 1000 other unarmed black men. You mean, they only attempt to deal with these situations from the perspective of their safety. In reality, police deal with these situations from the perspective of panic. Safe would have been questioning him, since they had six of them there anyway. And no, it’s not only the police perspective that matters. I know you’re a copsucking subhuman piece of garbage, but people matter too.

            He had every right to jump out of this car, since there was no reason he should have been followed in the first place. If you take the cop’s dicks outta your throat for half a second, you will realize that he was racially profiled, and the overreaction to this situation was of such gargantuan proportions, that it was utterly ridiculous. Secondly, your disgusting pigs still charged him with resisting arrest, which is a complete and utter lie. So you lose all credibility in this matter. What about him makes him a potential threat? That’s right, nothing. And exiting your car WITH YOUR HANDS UP also is NOT an aggressive action. Pigs like this and pig lovers like you are why cops are getting killed in increasing numbers, and deservedly so

          • Marc Watt

            If this was your grandmother on the news thrown to the ground you would be livid.

          • Damian ‘Myzery’ Rowe

            This kind of thinking is exactly why things are the way they are. I guess the courts never agreed with your ‘expert’ assessment of the situation, and eventually threw out the case.

          • ST

            What the fuck is wrong with you? He did not resist arrest! He seemed to be having a normal day when he gets pulled over and he is immediately screamed at by 4 or 5 police officers as if he just got caught murdering babies. He freezes up for 5 seconds and then gets tackled. This is resisting arrest to you? The only thing he should of not done was get out of the car, but I’d be damned if this deserves being tackled to the ground and punched several times by 5 people. You know this is bull shit.

            And by the way, to get legal about it, what does unlawful stopping someone, holding them hostage, and then assaulting them get you in Illinois? Because that is what these “officers” you are bending over for just did to this man. And you know what is even funnier is the fact that they messed with a PhD student. I’m sure he will have fun destroying this police department over the next few years.

        • Marc Watt

          Absolutely correct. I would like to see charges brought against cops that bring these bogus charges

      • stk33

        > They had to charge him with something because he resisted arrest

        Can you point the moment when arrest was announced? what was the probable cause and when was it developed?

        > and disobeyed lawful orders.

        Until the arrest had been announced, there’s no legal obligation to follow anyone’s orders, and not following them is not a crime. The cops can use force to gain compliance, but it’s not a crime to make them to, and not a crime to resist.

        The only situation where there’s legal obligation to follow cop’s orders is when he is regulating traffic and you are driving.

      • Freddie DC

        Yeah I didn’t see that. The first thing they yelled was hands in the air, for which he immediately complied. Afterwards it was hell, chaos, and a mixture of commands that included hands in the air and get on the ground, amongst other things. Which of all these damn commands should he have followed? You’re obviously similar to the one juror in the Michael Slager case where he admitted no matter how wrong they are, he could NEVER convict a cop. Which leaves one to wonder, why the hell did he not mention that during jury selection? Of course the answer is there are people like him and you who don’t give a shit about police assaults as long as those assaulted are others. The minutes something like this happens to someone you give a shit about, I’m quite sure you wouldn’t be playing devil’s advocate. The fact that you don’t see how them saying “we gotta charge him with SOMETHING”, is unethical says plenty about you.

  • Fat Craft Beer Drinker

    This article is exactly what is wrong with Law enforcement in this country.

    • Marc Watt

      Yep. Humble yourself, say we are sorry, we will implement changes, and we screwed up. Not this bull shit was covering

  • SrAgri

    This article is garbage.

    I agree that it was foolish of him to step out of his car. However, he was reasonably nervous that someone was following him. Had he gotten out and behaved erratically or threateningly, the situation would have been different. The man was speaking clearly and and calmly. A reasonable person would have engaged him in a verbal discussion instead of violently tackling him.

    Six officers rushed the guy screaming numerous commands at him at the same time. This always happens in these videos. Why in the world can police officers not decide who is going to issue the orders? It’s stupid for six people to be yelling commands in a highly charged situation.

    Regarding claims that he was resisting the officers, if a person is tackled to the ground, they are going to “contract their muscles”. When he was already on the ground, the officers continued to hit him.

    These officers acted inappropriately, unprofessionally, and illegally. Then their department covered for them and made bogus charges against the victim to cover their actions. If he had not been recording the incident, he would likely be doing time just so that the police department would not have to admit to wrong-doing.

    The author of this article has insulted good police officers with his defense of the actions of these officers and their department.

    • disqus_dMqDrb1PeU

      The “contracting his muscles” to prove he was resisting arrest is one of the most absurd things I’ve ever heard. Pathetic.

      • Scott Bingham

        Nobody likes to go to jail. Especially for driving while Black. These cops need to take some Estrogen or something they are way to hyper vigilant. They operate like the defense of a High School Football team out to sack the QB.

        • dawn

          I’m not sure estrogen will help. Did you see the story about the tasing in the U.K. of the man who was stopped while walking his dog? She tased him 3 times. He is a liaison for the police to help with race relations.

        • Marc Watt

          Well lit. Guy body language non threatening….6 cops with firearms pulled. Could have said hands behind your head, cuffed him, sorted it out and went home. But no they had to degrade a man

      • Noiz

        Pretty sure he’s referring to involuntary muscle contraction. When you are being tackled you don’t go limp, your reaction is to soften your fall. You brace yourself for the ground. This is insane

      • Marc Watt

        Listen every police video they scream quit resisting. There is one video out there where the guy was dead and they are screaming this. I am convinced it’s a routine way to guarantee a charge, justifying county hold until arraignment to see judge usually next day. Shit cops did this to me. Talked stop resisting..Hell I was nearly knocked out plus 400lbs on me. Zero resistance. But nonetheless charged with obstruction and resisting. Now what I want an answer to is why are cops not charged for filing false report and perjury when video evidence shows unequivocally no resistance took place. Now either, you lied or your judgment is so deficient and divorced from reality we don’t need decision makers like you running around with firearms.

        • SrAgri

          The answer is ego. Some (not all) police have huge egos. If they think someone is guilty, they are going to administer some “street justice”. They are sometimes called upon to make snap judgements. Snap judgements can be wrong, but you rarely hear a police officer apologize for a wrong assumption or see them back down. Once they have asserted their authority, they will not back down.

          I read an article on The Atlantic about the arrest of Henry Louis Gates by Sgt. James Crowley. The author concluded the article by saying “…of the two proud and resentful men who confronted each other that day, one had a professional obligation not to let his wrath get the better of him. He failed, quite dramatically.”

          Being a police officer calls for some humility, but many do not have it. The officers in this video do not have it at all. The continue to bait the man and antagonize him even after he has been subdued and found to be innocent. They are “proud and resentful”.

        • Robin W. Tong

          Yes, this article and video is exactly one of those instances in which police were yelling quit resisting to a man they killed:
          http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/02/25/confiscated-video-showing-oklahoma-cops-killing-man-released/

    • Gianni Formica

      Your know if a bunch people jumped on me and started pushing me to the ground , my reflexes would automatically kick in and I would tense up out fear of being smashed head first into concrete.
      How is it possible not to resist being shoved to the ground by a group of people hanging all over you?

      In fact I hate calling this resisting because it gives the term a bad connotation….
      I think this has alot to do with natural reflexes.

      gotta be a better way….

      • SrAgri

        I definitely agree. A human’s natural instinct is to bring their hands forward to protect their torso and face.

        Hitting people makes muscles react, not relax.

    • Robin W. Tong

      Agreed. This is a completely bullshit article. Officers received a report of suspicious activity involving a vehicle. They only had cause to stop and detain the driver TO INVESTIGATE AND DETERMINE IF THE OCCUPANT / DRIVER WAS THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. Anything beyond that regarding the circumstances recorded in the video is a bullshit conflation attempting to sanction and justify the actions and conduct of the police officers. The only thing that should matter are the Objective Facts: the man was not a criminal, he was driving his own vehicle, he pulled over when the stop was initiated, he made no attempt to flee, and he was not guilty of any crime.

      As for all this subjective bullshit proffered in the article to sanction and justify the conduct of the police officers involved in this incident, it is pure bullshit, and in a just society, would be criminal.

  • Hard Corps

    Whoever wrote this “justification” crap is either stupid or brain dead. There is absolutely NO justifications for what they did. If your that afraid of people that you have to bum rush a cooperative subject, find another job, you don’t have what it takes to be a cop. There was also NO excuse to even put your hands on him. He exited the vehicle, AS INSTRUCTED, hands up and open. There was no indication he was anything else but cooperative. This is a classic example of putting untrained and unskilled people in authority who think they can do whatever they what, then some how justify it. If you don’t see anything wrong here, you are part of the problem, not the solution.

    • usmc650736

      When was he instructed to exit the vehicle?

      • Scott Bingham

        Getting out of the car with the keys was stupid for sure. He should of just kept his hands in plain sight on top of the steering wheel. If they ask for you to get out do it slowly with your hands empty.

        • Richard Carlson

          What kind of a car thief uses his signal light and pulls over in a very orderly thoughtful way so as to not block traffic?That should have been the officer’s first clue that the situation was not as they assumed. Crosby’s stance when he got out of the car should have been the second. He is standing in a reasonably relaxed but respectful co-operative stance. Police departments have to do a better job recruiting candidates.

          • bitter honey

            you must be kidding, there are people who partake in high speed chases and they still use signal lights and some even drive within speed limit or slower. Is it so hard to listen an do what you are told? Especially when there’s a bunch of cops screaming to turn around and get on the ground. Listen! Comply! and nothing bad will happen to you.

          • SrAgri

            Why were there a bunch of cops screaming at him? One officer should have been giving commands. That’s just common sense.

          • Do you have stocks in a knee pad company?

    • Perry

      Thank you for that reply. The author of this article brought to light one of the most serious issues with the relationship that police have with those they police, protect, etc…The issue is, they can seem to do no wrong in the eyes of other police and the DA. Everything I saw in this video showed me the police involved took a tip as gospel, and did no police work on their own. When he was pulled over, why not ASK the driver some basic questions. Hell, they could have yelled the questions from a bullhorn.

      #1 IS THIS YOUR CAR?
      #2 Can you prove it?

      The story could have ended right there.

    • George Taylor

      I didn’t hear the INSTRUCTIONS to exit the car. Where did you hear that in the video so I can check myself?

      • BluesStringer1955 .

        Whoever said that obviously was mistaken. But who cares? Let’s say Crosby was mistaken also in getting out of his car. Does that justify getting kicked in the face and trumped up charges of resisting arrest? Why do you people jump so easily to justify these thugs’ actions? Freakin’ steroid-raging thugs or flat-out sadistic psychopaths every one of ’em. They are the ones who should be charged and jailed after this recording came out. Blue Lives only Matter if they’re in the right and not abusing their power and authority over every PhD candidate caught driving while black in a nice neighborhood. In this case, they don’t matter any more to me than a gang member getting shot on the street while beating someone during a robbery. There is no real difference except the abused badges between the two.

        • George Taylor

          I asked a simple question, since it was so EMPHATICALLY pointed out that he followed directions, which were never given. Don’t jump to the “You people” card blues baller.

          • BluesStringer1955 .

            The question you asked was quite obviously asked of someone who made a mistake. I asked several questions of you, starting with, “But who cares?” and went on to cede that Crosby made a mistake too by getting out of his car. My next question was more significant than the one starting with “Why do you people…” that is the only thing you’ve addressed here, which was, in relation to Crosby’s mistake of getting out of his car, “Does that justify getting kicked in the face and trumped up charges of resisting arrest?” The TRUTH is you’re more concerned with not being one of the “you people” I referred to than honestly answering a question that can only put these thugs in the proper thug-light that I thought you were avoiding to begin with, and is why I did include you in the “you people” I referred to.

            So here’s the deal, Col Jessup, it is YOU who can’t handle the TRUTH!

            LOL

          • George Taylor

            You certainly make a lot of ASSumptions from one question. Nowhere in any posting I have made, do I offer any opinion on the matter, much less take the side of the officers. Get the facts straight before you open the blow hole.

  • Calistress

    Always blame the victim.

  • Calistress

    Whelp, Blue Lives Matter – people are woke to what cops are doing. This man complied to the best of his ability despite having 6 hyped up cops yelling conflicting commands. This is f’d up all the way around. You know, I know it, and apparently the folks who have commented know it.

  • Shannon

    Some questions to ponder. When did the United States become a police state? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? What happened to protect and serve? Should law abiding citizens fear the police? Although you make a very good point that people don’t call police when something like this happens, do you think this will deter or encourage people to call police when they see something suspicious. I think the former, so they really didn’t do themselves or the public any favours there. All of this could be marginally justified up until the point where they decided to charge him with a crime. The choices the officers made after the truth was discovered, speaks volumes. They over reacted, they knew it, they tried to justify it. If the police want respect from the public, this was not the way to do it.

    • disqus_dMqDrb1PeU

      Exactly. The cover-up was worse than the initially contact with Mr. Crosby. Those officers made it so much worse by falsely arresting him. They did something wrong and tried to cover it up. That PhD wouldn’t have been much good with a felony record. The sad thing is that this has happened to a lot of people and why so many people don’t trust law enforcement.

      • SrAgri

        I agree. Their actions in assaulting Mr. Crosby instead of handling the situation calmly and professionally could be attributed to adrenaline and lack of training.

        Their conspiring together to railroad the man to cover their wrongs speaks of a complete lack of ethics and morals. The fact that this tape went to trial shows that the department and the DA were also corrupt.

        If the police had any sense, someone would have “lost” the tape, the charges would have been dismissed on those grounds, and the officers involved would have been fired. The only reason that I can fathom why they went forward with the trial was to try to discredit Mr. Crosby, since he also had a tape of the incident. They were trying to get him to plea bargain and admit guilt in some way. Despicable all the way around!

  • E Brown

    This article seeks to excuse the inexcusable. A man with his hands in the air, above his head poses no threat to more than 3 “police” officers with guns drawn.
    None. What. So. Ever.
    The “get on the ground” crap served no purpose other than to humiliate him.
    They could have resolved the matter by listening to what he was trying to tell them, and since they had complete control of the situation, retrieved the paperwork that showed his ownership and identity.
    If the police department’s policy was followed then that policy is deeply flawed and, on its face, illegal.

    The only person in danger was the citizen.
    This article and others like it are shameful and disgusting.

  • Grateful

    There seem to be quite a few trolls on here today. Here’s the deal…if you get pulled over, you turn off your car and put your hands on the wheel. Period. Normal people obey this, criminals don’t. Normal people do what the cops tell them to do, criminal don’t. It’s not complicated. If you don’t obey, you risk getting subdued or shot. This not rocket science. All you troll armchair quarterbacks on here today should try being a cop before you judge. The officers in this scenario were told they were dealing with a potential carjacker, then the guy got out of his car. Who the hell gets out of the car when pulled over? Cop killers, for one.

    • BluesStringer1955 .

      “Who the hell gets out of the car when pulled over? Cop killers, for one.”

      Yeah, and “normal” PhD candidates, for two.

      “All you troll armchair quarterbacks on here today should try being a cop before you judge.”

      And you should try being a human being for a day before you put on a badge, swine.

      • Ricky Ross

        So simply and eloquently stated! Thank you for injecting common sense and logic here …

      • Grateful

        I have no idea why you assumed I was a cop, but I’m not. I’m a citizen who lives in a crappy neighborhood who appreciates all the police do to keep us safe. You, however, have shown your true colors. No one who visits this site in integrity would ever call an officer “swine”. Why don’t you find something better to do with your life than trolling.

        • BluesStringer1955 .

          Do you consider what these cops did to this perfectly innocent man amongst “all the police do to keep us safe?”

          You live in a crappy neighborhood? MOVE! I grew up in SoCal. Lived through both the Watts and Rodney King Riots before I had enough. Never had a decent interaction with a cop while living there for the whole first half of my life. They sure never did a damned thing to keep me or mine safe. What a joke.

          Two out of four definitions of the word “swine” are given as applying to a certain type of person:

          3. a coarse, gross, or brutishly sensual person.

          4. a contemptible person.

          These cops earned the word based on both of those definitions.

          I’ve got more integrity in the tip of my little finger than any one of the cops depicted in this video, and the article is nothing but swine propaganda handed out on a swine website dedicated to spreading it. People who support the militarized gang known as police are known by others with eyes to see and brains to discern with as the problem. See ya ’round, The Problem.

        • Brian Youse

          You’re trolling way more than the rest of us, scumbag. You are a brainwashed piece of trash who has no idea of the freedoms the constitution affords you, which include 1) innocent until proven guilty, 2) the freedom from being profiled, and 3) the freedom from being falsely accused and attacked.
          I agree with BluesStringer, try being a human, you miserable dirtbag. When cops act like this, they put civilians, and subsequently their own, lives in danger

    • Namenkere

      You must have missed the part when Mr. Lawrence Crosby had six police officers screaming different instructions at him, and he looks to the left of cop car then right, then left again, totally confused by the numerous different commands.
      He’s hands were up. Why not wait, and have one cop issue commands?
      Why knee somebody with their hands up?
      See how the cop wearing the red shirt, is all revving to a bruising after he closes the car door, just on top of Mr. Lawerence Crosby, and lays in FOUR punches!
      Also, when the car came back belonging to Mr. Lawrence Crosby, why did one cop say, “we gotta charge him with some thing”

      Police state…..

    • Calistress

      Bullshit – bad cops will find a way to assault you. Stop with the bullshit rhetoric about if you’re innocent you have nothing to worry about.

    • Noiz

      This kid wasn’t a criminal, he wasn’t Northwestern student pursuing a doctorate w no priors. He was scared and didn’t know what to do. They don’t teach you how to properly get pulled over in school. The lack of empathy is insane.

      • Grateful

        Ignorance of the law does not exempt one from it. I am also an academic, yet somehow every time I’ve been pulled over I’ve managed to not get my ass beat or shot. How did I manage that, you might wonder? I sat there with my hands on the wheel.

        My question to you…Where is your empathy for good cops being ambushed and slaughtered all over this country? Where is your empathy for the families left behind? Where is your empathy for the PTSD, the careers ruined by slander, the ones who survive attacks and live paralyzed or disabled for the rest of their lives?

        As I said before, these cops WERE TOLD THEY WERE DEALING WITH A CARJACKER, a notoriously dangerous demographic. Their heightened response was appropriate, given that their lives were likely in danger.

        • Noiz

          I do have empathy for police officers and their sacrifice. You cannot have empathy for both? That such a polarizing thing to say.

          I have never been pulled over in the manner that this man was. I’ve never had 6 plus cops in pursuit of me. I don’t know how I would react.

          Maybe there was nothing differently the cops could have done I don’t know. Can you at least admit that the guy is not a criminal and didn’t deserve to be charged with resisting and disobeying?

          Do you not feel bad for the guy at all?

          His only crime was not knowing how to respond to a high stress situation.

          • Grateful

            I appreciate your compassion; it is perhaps too lacking in public discourse these days. My issue, however, is that one man’s stupidity/ ignorance of the law/ ignoring the law/ whatever put officers’ careers in danger. And it seems these days that every time the media goes crazy about “racist” police, cops get shot. Police are quitting all over the country because of this hostile environment, making our cities less safe. Chicago is a perfect example. We must not play into the narrative the mainstream media feeds us. The majority of cops, and every cop I’ve ever dealt with, are fantastic. I live in a poor neighborhood becuase it’s the only place we could afford a house and I LOVE my local police. I will fight for them tooth and nail because they do the same for me.

          • SrAgri

            “My issue, however, is that one man’s stupidity/ ignorance of the law/
            ignoring the law/ whatever put officers’ careers in danger.”

            Do you care to cite an example of a law that Mr. Crosby broke?

            The law does not say that you have to remain in your car during a traffic stop. It is common etiquette and the better course of judgment, I would agree. However, the police should be prepared to deal with everyday people in addition to hardened criminals.

            I’m all for supporting law enforcement. They have a tough job and often decisions have to be made in the heat of the moment. If police shoot a 12-year-old with a toy gun, I can understand why. Maybe they were a bit too quick to shoot or over-reacted, but I can understand why. However, this incident had very little to do with heat-of-the-moment decisions and more to do with bad training, bad judgement, and bad morals.

            The manner in which they approached Mr. Crosby spoke of absolute terrible training. They were all screaming commands and throwing punches. It was absolutely pathetic and speaks terribly of their department. Common sense says that one person gives commands and you don’t start punching someone as you are giving commands.

            The morally sickening part, though, is that, after the heat of the moment passed and they were clearly in the wrong, they did not apologize or try to minimize the damage of their error. Instead, they conspired together to give this man a criminal record and ruin his life simply to save them from getting in trouble for their bad judgment.

        • David Ventura

          Because you’re a white republican becky that frequents breitbart. Police officers won’t touch you. Also, fuck this place, and fuck you.

          • gilbil

            That’s unfounded. Grateful hid his/her profile. I doubt you could affirm anything.

        • Takethewheel

          This trolling is orchestrated by cop hating racists. It’s obvious that all the deplorable commenters are looking for reasons to be offended and spout only negative, nitpicking bs against police. And they do this trolling for nefarious reasons that have nothing to do with honest or constructive criticism. These despicable commenters are no more than rabble rousers and/or useful idiots for the “cause.” But, they rarely have enough depth of intellect or character to understand the actual cause they are supposedly defending. They are about hate and destruction and nothing else, but they are too obtuse to understand that much.

          • BluesStringer1955 .

            TakeTheWheel said: “This trolling is orchestrated by cop hating racists.”

            Has it occurred to you TTW, that you are accusing people whom you’ve never met and have no earthly clue whether or not they are indeed racists on a website that is simply named as the flip-side of the bigoted Black Lives Matter? None of the three “BLM” organizations that I am aware of can be free of excoriating criticism – not “Black” or “Blue” Lives Matter, nor the illegal and unconstitutional Bureau of Land Management. If you’re a cop, you are as despicable as the BLM and other federales who tried to run the Bundys off their land. If you’re not a cop and only blindly support them, then you’re as despicable as the BLM’ers who riot and burn their communities down in order to protest against their government. Either way, you are not one to talk about others being obtuse as you set about verbally fellating cops who brutalized a perfectly innocent man in the case being discussed here. You’re either a thug yourself, or a thug wannabe. Neither is something to be proud of or brag about.

          • Takethewheel

            You got me. I’m a thug.

          • Takethewheel

            Lol, jackoff.

    • Nathan Saunders

      Let me give you a bit of insight. I went to Evanston township and am familiar with the community. For an academic in Northwestern it’s as if being in another world. It’s a beautiful university that’s culturally diversified. The issue here is Mr. Crosby has no idea about police etiquette for a black man. I know when police are jacked up like that to be perfectly still and obey commands if they are given clearly. His first mistake was made before this sorry event took place. If you’re going to work on your car in the dark in an affluent community and you’re black pop the hood, pop the trunk, turn the hazards on, the radio anything that will let the people in that community know no crime is being committed. Lawrence received a good piece of education and should be grateful he still has his life…As well as a nice payday!

    • stk33

      > Here’s the deal..

      Don’t need to read any further. Police officers for some reason always think they are in position to offer everybody “a deal”. Like, I can rough you up as I please, completely by street justice, and then I will creatively make up some law to support that; but here’s how you can avoid my assault if you cooperate. Gang thinking, basically. We don’t need any deals from you, and you are not in position to offer any.

      • SrAgri

        If Crosby didn’t have his own video footage of the incident, the PD would probably have “lost” theirs, and it would have been the word of five or six officers against one man. Without his own video, Crosby probably would have been forced to plea bargain to hopefully reduce his charges enough that he could still practice engineering when he graduates.

  • Autumn Falls

    Can’t support the police on this one..even from the shitty video it’s obvious he had a cell phone in his hand. As for telling him to get down…I never heard that demand clearly…I heard a bunch of people all screaming something different and just an incredible amount of noise. If they wanted him to get down one officer should have taken the lead and given the verbal commands it should not have been a free for all.

    It looked like a bunch of hoods all jumping in on the fight wanting to make sure they could get their licks in.

    And no…I am not some police bashing liberal who hates police or any kind of authority.
    I work for a police department.
    But I still know how to be objective and those officers were completely in the wrong on this one.

    • gscott10

      A-forkane-Men

  • Ricky Ross

    “What Cop T-Shirts Tell Us About Police Culture”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/what-cop-tshirts-tell-us-_n_3479017.html?

  • Ricky Ross

    “”Are Police Constitutional?””

    http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm

  • Ricky Ross

    “First of Its Kind Study Shows 55,400 People Hospitalized or Killed by US Cops in a Single Year”

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/landmark-study-police-brutality-problem/

  • Quai Ontario

    Whoever wrote this article is stoooooooo-pid!!!!

  • Tina

    Can you also explain/”break down” the part where the officer says “I didn’t shoot you. You should feel lucky, mother__er”? Still a little bit stumped on that one. I’m sure there’s a perfectly reasonable explanation.

    I’m also sure the exclusion of that portion of the video from this article has nothing to do with “false narratives,” either, because that would make Blue Lives Matter seem hypocritical, biased and bearing an agenda, wouldn’t it? and of course, it isn’t, that’s the BLACK one, right?

    Thanks in advance for clarifying!!

    • SrAgri

      The explanation for that statement is that the officer knew it was too late to hit Crosby anymore, but he wanted to continue his aggressive, hostile behavior and assert his authority over the subdued man.

  • usmc650736

    “Per a policy change, Evanston PD officers are no longer supposed to
    order a suspect to get on the ground during a high-risk stop.” …Because, apparently, THAT was the problem here…

    Better idea: Have a “one voice” policy, where only one officer per subject is allowed to give orders. If more than one officer is giving orders, then no action may be taken by the officers (save for reacting to an immediate deadly threat) until such time as one officer has been able to give orders without interference from others.

  • disqus_dMqDrb1PeU

    There are so many errors and problems with this writer’s justification but I will mention the two obvious ones. Mr. Crosby’s hands were in the air and car keys were clearly visible. No way five officers should fear for their lives unless they are cowards who should not be in law enforcement. The second issue is there was no way for Mr. Crosby to comply with an order to get to the ground when he couldn’t understand what he was being told to do. He had five @ssholes screaming at him at once. Stop blaming Mr. Crosby for what these officers did and also omitted to do. He was the only one out of all of them who remained calm. Sometimes people try to blame this kind of police-civilian interaction on lack of proper training but I don’t know how you can teach or train someone to be calm. You police apologist need to stop trying to explain away everything and admit that everyone is not fit to wear the uniform. I think we need to start paying police better and that will attract better talent and stop the practice of hiring people who shouldn’t have gotten a gun and a badge in the first place.

  • Scott Bingham

    You can plainly see the car keys in his right hand. The cops didn’t even give him enough time to comply. Besides why do people have to get down in the dirt or grease or water because these cops are overreacting dickheads? When I was moving to Arizona the CHP pulled me over in force and made me get face down on the asphalt when it was hot. Turns out some old lady heard my cat meowing in the back of the truck and called them to report a kidnapping. I didn’t do anything wrong and tried to comply but the road was hot. Because of that I got roughed up by these over reacting police. This isn’t Iraq or Afghanistan so why are police armed to the teeth and taught military style tactics? This is why people are getting shot so often. I let this slide but I have filed and settled several excessive use of force,unlawful detention,and false arrest charges. Police ignore the 4 th and 5th Amendments routinely. I will not let the police search my car without a warrant because they have planted drugs on me twice. Guess what I beat the charges both times.

    • SrAgri

      No one should ever let the police search their car without a warrant. If we don’t use constitutional rights, we might as well not even have them.

  • stk33

    Furthermore, because Crosby was contracting his muscles to resist the officers’ efforts to get him on the ground (the video makes it apparent he is resisting the officers’ efforts,) he moved from simply being non-compliant to actively resisting.

    When somebody is actively resisting arrest, officers can (and often should) strike them.”

    So when they were ordering him on the ground, it was already an arrest? for what?

    Until the arrest is announced, it’s not a crime to resist. Cops can apply force to have their way, but resisting it is not a crime. Accordingly, charging with resisting arrest that did not take place is a crime.

    The article really goes out of it’s way in lying and twisting the facts in order to justify this assault that was then doubled by charging him.

  • MacK

    My instinct here is that the author of this particular piece, if he is employed by a police department, should be immediately dismissed, fired, canned. If this website seeks to be taken seriously, this sort of stupid piece really undermines it. Face up to reality, the officers made a huge error, compounded it, and should have been disciplined and indeed dismissed. Anyone defending this behaviour should not be in law enforcement, period.

  • SrAgri

    The Evanston Police Department set the 911 caller up to take the heat over this.

    She called in as a concerned citizen. She did not beat a man, falsely arrest him, or conspire to ruin his life. Yet, when they released the tapes of the incident a year and a half later, they went through and bleeped out the worst of the officers’ profanity but “forgot” to bleep out the woman’s name on the first tape they released. This is despicable. They made this woman a scapegoat for their own sins. They have unleashed the Black Live Matter / Social Justice Warriors crowd on this woman for calling in and reporting a crime.

    However, we still don’t know the names of the officers involved. They’re willing to throw this woman’s name to the angry masses, but they are still protecting their own.

  • Good Canadian Kid

    Is it hard to type with the officer’s dick in your mouth?

  • disqus_50URPku6t9

    Found this very disappointing. There is little to no justification for abuse of power when 5 officers had unconfirmed information from an unconfirmed source. If the driver had stayed in his car they likely would have approached with weapons drawn and that would have ended poorly. The lose credibility for the many dangerous situations were force is needed by their hasty poorly thought out response here. Would I be expected to go to ground for a traffic stop? Should anybody? This is reminiscent of James Blake in NYC. Luckily this gentleman was not shot. This is too similar to the no knock home invasions by the police where deadly force is ‘justified’ only to find it was an inreliable source or the wrong home. Shame on you Evanston Police for excusing this behavior.

  • Chris

    It’s just too bad the subject of the stories is never an off-duty cop.

  • Charles Debo

    LOL, this article seems to miss the justification of the policeman saying you are lucky I didn’t fucking shoot you. Or how the cops talked about how this case will be thrown out. Or the time it takes to comply with a reasonable time limit. Or the flying knee. Really..

  • adrshepard

    Completely justified police response.

    The commands were perfectly clear and he actively resisted arrest.

    Note that the people who disagree universally never cite commonly accepted police procedure. I’d like to see them jump out of their cars as soon as the police pull them over and see how the cop reacts.

    • SrAgri

      The people who disagree are citing the constitution and the law. You apparently hold these things in very low esteem. However, the founding fathers of this country did not found it on “commonly accepted police procedure”.

      What was on trial in Evanston was “commonly accepted police procedure”. It was found to be wrong and has been adjusted.

      • adrshepard

        The constitution has absolutely nothing to do with it. This is about reasonable use of force.

        Until I see the judge’s opinion (which I’ve looked for but cannot find online), it’s premature to determine why exactly the charges were dismissed. It’s entirely possible that the judge didn’t want to punish an otherwise decent citizen for doing something stupid one night, not to mention the terrible optics.

        You can find the police report here: https://evanston.nextrequest.com/requests/16-707, in which he admits that he did hear the orders to get on the ground and that he chose not to comply (you can claim that the cops are all lying on this point but one would think Crosby would have said as much, which he hasn’t).

        There was no court order to change police procedure. The department did that voluntarily.

        • SrAgri

          “The constitution has absolutely nothing to do with it,”
          That’s troubling. A police officer or supporter thinks the Constitution is irrelevant.

          “…he admits that he did hear the orders to get on the ground and
          that he chose not to comply…”

          It is also acknowledged in the report that they gave him 3-4 seconds to comply and insisted that he drop his cell phone on the ground. With flashing lights and armed men rushing at you, that’s not very long to process the situation. Perhaps you’re just much cooler under pressure.

          “There was no court order to change police procedure. The department did that voluntarily.”
          Why did they change procedure? Because they realized their procedure was badly flawed.

          • adrshepard

            Again, it is irrelevant. When a cop handles a suspect, he’s not pondering the correct interpretation of the Bill of Rights. He’s acting off of department policy. Whether that policy is constitutional is way beyond him and irrelevant. He can’t be faulted for following what he has been told is proper procedure.

            There isn’t anything to process. Guys with guns in a position of authority are giving you an order. You follow it. He was aware of what was going on, as stated in the police report.

            You don’t know the exact reason why they changed procedure. I can’t think of any bad flaws with forcing suspects to the ground before subduing them when possible. It’s undeniably safer for the officers and poses no real burden for suspects. Even if you think they didn’t give him enough time to respond in this case, that’s still no reason to scrap the procedure entirely. I think the alternative explanation, that they did so for political reasons, is more persuasive, though we will never know for sure.

  • Dave

    What a ridiculous article. For shame.

  • DMarie Blac

    You cops are so disgusting. Every profession has to correct their behavior. Why can’t police ever admit to being wrong? No matter what happens they justify everything.

  • Zach Carr

    I think this was a well written article that sheds a light on the procedures done to maintain safety of the public, and also themselves as police. They deserve to go home at the end of the day too. Some of you say that these guys were too “rough” and didn’t take time to assess the entire situation-yet what would YOU do if a call like this typically is something intense and you don’t know what the person driving the stolen car would do.

    • BluesStringer1955 .

      Hey Zach, the whole point is that it wasn’t a stolen car! This is a well-written article only if you think making excuses for abusing 100% innocent citizens is what makes it “well written!” And even if it was a car thief, there is absolutely nothing in that video that would justify them kicking the guy in the face with their thug boots! You are despicable for trying to excuse this behavior. In the days of this country’s Founding, you would be known as a collaborator of the British.

    • SrAgri

      According to the constitution, a person is innocent until proven guilty. These officers treated the man as guilty until proven innocent.

  • Marc Watt

    Complete non sense. Doesn’t pass the sniff test. Sorry.

    First of all question? Is it part of law enforcement training to scream out “quit resisting” no matter what? Every video! The one video the guy was dead and cop is yelling to quit resisting. My own experience too. Tackle take down knees and elbows all over you, not moving a fucking muscle and they will scream, invariably, quit resisting. Now they can at least book you. Which lets not be cavalier about. Your freedom deprived from you. Your family stressed. Etc. Anxiety. Degraded. Now most judges are hip to this gimmick, and drop these charges.

    But hey. It’s what would the average Joe in the community consider excessive? This is clearly excessive. By definition! A simple hands behind your head command followed by securing suspect would have sufficed. There were half dozen officers on scene with weapons drawn. Scene was well lit and secure.

    Civil suit is a no brainer, likely 1.2 million fit this hot shot rambo Shit.

    Finally I would to start seeing officers criminally charged for false arrest , false imprisonment, and perjury when they blatantly take the stand claiming resisting/obstruction where the evidence clearly shows no such crime happened. Therefore, it was fabricated to take away a citizens freedom. Very serious crime to me. And was to our founding fathers.
    Judgement: for the plaintiff…EvanstonPD, sure you are good family men. And your job sucks at times. But this performance unacceptable. Remove head from ass and just say sorry

  • BluesStringer1955 .

    Does anybody know this “adrshepard” dickhead? I’ve got a question for anybody who does know him – I’m wondering if you’ve ever noticed whether he spits or swallows after greeting the cops he sees on the streets in his own special way?

  • Gobby

    “but just because somebody isn’t successfully charged in a court of law doesn’t mean they didn’t actually commit the crime.”

    Wow!

  • Timothy ‘House’ Jones

    MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT SINCE I CAN REMEMBER AND THEY ALL SAID THIS WAS HANDLED WRONG. HE GOT OUT WITH HANDS IN THE AIR. THEY SHOULD HAVE SAID “LEAVE THEM UP, PUT THE PHONE ON THE ROOF OF THE CAR AND TURN AROUND AND WALK BACK TO MY VOICE. LET ME SEARCH YOU FOR ANY WEAPONS. OK NO WEAPONS THEN LET ME TELL YOU WHY I STOPPED YOU” THATS IT! HANDS RAISED MEANS IM NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING AGGRESSIVE. FUCK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE COPS, RACIST IS ALL THEY ARE AND YHAT COP IN THE RED SHIRT PUNCHING HIM SHOULD BE FIRED! I LOVE GOOD COPS, I RESPECT GOOD COPS! THESE COPS ARE NOT GOOD COPS!

  • Jawan Terrell

    Shut up fucking retards. People like you are why so many people hate the fucking cops

  • Brian Youse

    This article is such a ridiculous piece of garbage, as is the entire existence of ‘Blue Lives Matter’, the subhuman piece of scum that wrote this, and the pathetic pigs in this video. All I have to say is, don’t be surprised why cops are getting killed in record numbers, and deservedly so. It’s disgusting behavior like this that they’ve brought it onto themselves.

    “Crosby is lucky that all of the officers apparently recognized that he wasn’t holding a gun”
    No, the officers are lucky. The Chicago and Evanston pigs are lucky they don’t have another Dallas on their hands.

    “the video makes it apparent he was resisting”
    What video did the scumbag writer of this article watch? It was clear to literally everyone that he wasn’t resisting one iota. It’s definitely something that brainless pigs scream over and over when they attack innocent people.

  • Gobby

    The taxpayer will give the guy at least $500.000. the idiots we allow to police us should pay for there own mistakes out of there pension funds.

  • Luann

    This article really is garbage. I’ve watched the video several times and there was nothing in his hands, and he did not resist arrest in any way.

  • ST

    Whoever wrote this shit, I hope you don’t work for law enforcement. You are a pathetic excuse of a human being.

  • Howard Roark

    What a ludicrous piece of crap. The video shows very clearly that Crosby was NOT resisting or running away, but was tackled and beaten by the police. He was not disobeying any instructions.

    The police lied, and filed false charges against him just to cover their own butts. That is obvious.

    This article should make any law abiding citizen want to puke.