Keith Scott Shooting: 5 Facts – What You Know May Be Wrong

Keith Scott (pictured) Shooting Facts

Keith Scott (pictured) Shooting Facts

Keith Scott Shooting: 5 Facts – What You Know May Be Wrong

On Tuesday, Keith Scott was shot by Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department Officer Brentley Vinson. Officers had been in the area looking for a wanted person when they were threatened by Scott.

Scott’s family quickly took to social media to begin spreading misinformation about the incident. Most major news outlets are reporting on the version of events from Keith Scott’s family, but that information has major issues.

5. Keith Scott Was Armed With A Gun, Not A Book

The family members of Keith Scott have been saying that he was unarmed at the time he was shot, and that he was only reading a book. Officers observed a firearm in Scott’s hand at the time he was shot. The officers disarmed Scott after he was shot and recovered the firearm.

4. The Officer Who Shot Keith Scott Was Black

Officer Brentley Vinson is a black officer for the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department. Officer Vinson is the officer who shot Scott. Officer Vinson’s skin color should have dispelled any myth about this being a racially motivated shooting, however stories of the involved-officer being white persist. The false stories spread by Scott’s family resulted in an uninvolved white officer being targeted by people on the internet. Scott’s family likely made a mistake about the shooting officer’s race because:

3. Keith Scott’s Family Members Did Not Witness The Shooting

None of the family members of Keith Scott, except his wife, were reportedly present at the time of the shooting, but they are spreading their made-up narrative as truth. Scott’s wife was present and filmed the incident but, it appears likely that there were no other family witnesses to the shooting. Unfortunately, the media is using their narrative as the go-to source of information on the incident.

2. Keith Scott Was Out Of His Car With Gun In-Hand

The narrative that Scott was shot while sitting in his car reading is false. Scott was actually out of his car, on his feet, threatening officers with a firearm at the time he was shot. Scott had been in his car prior to exiting with the firearm, but he was on his feet when the shooting occurred.

1. Any Disability Keith Scott May Have Had Is Irrelevant

When people say that a “disabled man” was shot, it evokes the image of a wheelchair-bound man. Scott was not in a wheelchair. It’s not clear what disability Scott may have had, but he was able-bodied enough to stand on his own and threaten officers with a firearm. The results of the investigation will soon show that Scott’s “disability” would not have prevented him from shooting officers.

Below is the media’s source of information. Feel free to let us know on our Facebook page if you think that the media’s source appears credible:

  • John Baker

    Facts really don’t matter any more. The ferals will riot no matter what. The ones that I truly feel sorry for are the good honest hard working black members of our communities as the actions of these thugs and those who riot are only serving to set race relations back a LOOONNNGGG way.

    • RayScott

      Yet you using the word “ferals” will NOT help race relations. What have you done to improve race relations? Why are you here just flapping your lips?

      • Kimberly Larkin Hotaling

        How about we just call trash TRASH? Is that better Ray Scott? Do you even know the definition of feral?

        fe·ral

        /ˈferəl/

        adjective

        1. (especially of an animal) in a wild state, especially after escape from captivity or domestication: “a feral cat”synonyms: wild, untamed, untamable, undomesticated, untrained

        The word does not have any correlation to skin color.
        And before you ask what I have done to improve race relations…I am raising my son to treat all people with respect, to not judge based on any aspect of appearance. I am starting at home and teaching him and then showing him by example!

        • DMac

          It all starts at home!

        • RayScott

          Actually you whites use the term way too loosely as if you’re better than minorities, so there’s that. I don’t thing you guys should even be talking. Remember who assassinated Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

          • Kimberly Larkin Hotaling

            Now there is a racist comment, “you whites.” What are you doing to improve race relations? You are making racist comments. Change starts from within yourself. Try being part of the solution, not the problem. Racism ends when EVERYONE stops being racist. You basically said that I am not entitled to my opinion because of the color of my skin. That is being a racist. Trash is trash regardless of color. Act like a heathen and you will be called a heathen. No color labels necessary. I judge people by their actions. You should do the same. Do not lump people into a category because of skin color. You are guilty of this. Do you know me? Do you know my friends or family? Have you witnessed the things I do? No. And now you judge me because of the color of my skin. That is a part of the problem. Now I challenge you to be part of the solution!

          • RayScott

            I’m black! I AM the solution. it’s up to whites to extend the olive branch and have our backs during stressful times.

          • libwithIQ

            If you are one of the people rampaging and looting for no good reason, then you are not the solution. There are right ways and wrong ways to protest. 1st. Have a good reason. So far the evidence doesn’t support this being a case of a bad shooting. 2nd. Stop with the looting and destruction of other peoples property. Doesn’t support your cause and makes you look inferior.

          • RayScott

            First of all, I DON’T riot. Second of all, whites do the same thing. I guess you haven’t seen the pictures of WHITES looting during the baltimore riots. That makes you guys inferior. Sick of the double standards.

          • libwithIQ

            Please, please show all your links to the whites who were rioting in Baltimore. Actual links to news sources with photos. WHITES do not do this all the time. Making stuff up doesn’t support your cause.

          • RayScott

            Google “whites looting during riots” I guarantee you will come up with more articles than you can count.

          • libwithIQ

            So you can’t supply a link. Ok. But not my job to do your research for you. I’m willing to have a dialog with you. But not willing to do your work for you.

          • RayScott

            So you don’t even know how to use google? I’m practically doing the work for you. All you have to do is copy and paste, then press enter. How hard is that?

          • Jonathan Miller

            He that makes the assertion, provides the evidence…you’re not very bright…

          • libwithIQ

            LIke I said before…Every one of those is a liberal mouthpiece propaganda site. Link a REAL
            news service. Reuters, AP, UPI Hell, I’ll even take one from a garbage
            bag like NBC. But those you cite are not news services and they have
            their own agenda. Almost every one is funded by Soros.

          • Tom Reinheimer

            Show some.

          • Tom Reinheimer

            There are none.

          • libwithIQ

            Every one of those is a liberal mouthpiece propaganda site. Link a REAL news service. Reuters, AP, UPI Hell, I’ll even take one from a garbage bag like NBC. But those you cite are not news services and they have their own agenda. Nice try. But no.

          • Taylor Martin

            do white lives matter? how about mexican lives or Asian lives/ The way in which you appear to think tells me that you and all BLM supporters think that they are special in some way when in reality ALL LIVES MATTER. You want to be part of the solution? Then quit promoting a racist movement and point of view and educate people that we are all Americans, not white Americans, African Americans or Hispanic Americans but Americans

          • RayScott

            So step in and offer a solution, WHITE man. No one’s supporting a racist group. It’s WHITES who want to say that ONLY white lives matter (you can actually google that) with swatikas, confederate flags, you name it.

          • Tom Reinheimer

            BS

          • RayScott

            Google “white lives matter Neo nazi”

          • Taylor Martin

            explain to me how possible police corruption and abuse of power is my fault. explain to me how I am perpetuating a racist culture by saying in essence and reality that all lives matter, not just black lives. We all have the same opportunities to make a difference in this world and in improving the society that we live in. BTW did I call you a black man? no. You calling me a white man is racist as hell in the tone you used it in your response. I used to be a cab driver and a white one at that who happened to believe that it should not and did not matter what area I picked up or dropped off in or who I had as a customer because everyone deserves the chance to use the service I was offering. Skin color did not matter to me and it still doesn’t, if you act like a low class thug then that is how i treat you. I am not responsible for my fore fathers actions but aim to not repeat them in any way shape or form if they were racist in any way shape or form, which btw they were not, my ancestors bought slaves at the slave market, transported them to their town and gave them land to build a house on and land to build a church on if they so pleased with no strings attached because they believed that no man should be denied freedom. Look up the Moravian religion if you wish.

          • RayScott

            You can call me a black man. Because that’s exactly what I am. A Proud one at that.

          • Tom Reinheimer

            Uh, they were black in Baltimore.

          • RayScott

            Is Baltimore 100% BLACK? Answer truthfully. Look up the census if you need too. Whites loot too.

          • Tom Reinheimer

            The whites were being attacked by the blacks in Baltimore.

          • RayScott

            Again! Is Baltimore 100% Black?

          • Kimberly Larkin Hotaling

            Being black does not make you the solution. Saying racist things does not make you the solution. I am not your enemy. I am not shooting you. I am not oppressing you. I am for accountability, people working hard, people respecting EVERYONE. Please tell my how rioting and looting is peaceful demonstrating or protesting? How is breaking into and stealing from local stores helping the situation? How is burning down the neighborhood you live in peaceful?

          • RayScott

            I’m not going to tell you if rioting and looting is peaceful demonstrating or protesting , because IT’S NOT. If you refuse to acknowledge the PEACEFUL protests and focus on the TROUBLE MAKERS, that’s a fault on YOUR end.

          • libwithIQ

            Do you mean like the “peaceful” protest in Dallas that ended up with police officers guarding the protestors being murdered? The killer wasn’t white. That’s a problem on YOUR end.

          • RayScott

            The killer wasn’t apart of anything. Just a mentally ill army veteran who snapped. That had nothing to do directly with the protest. Stop trying to push blame on people who are exercising their first and second amendment rights.

          • tricia

            Its amazing how you can make excuses for your side saying the majority are peaceful but a handful are idiots but when you look at the other side you say things like ALL white people are racist. Most of us are not racist but there are a few idiots that the media likes to highlight, just like most of you are not thugs who want to destroy society but the media likes to highlight those who do. The enemy is not white people or black people. The enemy are the people who are making us all live in these tiny boxes where they show us only part of the story. We are all the same. Put black people in the ghetto with no education and no jobs and they turn into criminals, put white people in the ghetto with no education and no jobs and they turn into criminals. The fix then is not needed in the white or black community but in the ghetto. Focus your energy on bringing jobs back to the ghetto, getting people off of welfare, removing the corruption from your politicians so that the money that is meant to improve your schools and your communities makes it there instead of lining their pockets.

          • RayScott

            “Its amazing how you can make excuses…”. I stopped giving a shit after reading the first seven words.

          • tricia

            If you won’t even look at reason and logic then you cannot claim you want change. You are no better than the people rioting and looting. You don’t want what you claim you want, you are just angry cause you made bad choices and you need a scapegoat.

          • RayScott

            What bad choices have I made? Do you know me? Have you seen me doing something bad anywhere? The MEDIA needs a scapegoat, WE are asking for transparency and justice.

          • libwithIQ

            I’m beginning to think Ray is a Soros troll. I’m not even sure if he’s black. He follows the Soros troll mold. Argue and incite without giving valid reasons or proof and end up calling names. I hope Soros is paying him by the comment and not the content. less than one upvote per comment is pitiful.

          • Kimberly Larkin Hotaling

            I do recognize peaceful protests. Rioting, looting, burning, and chanting “fry them like bacon” are not constructive or helpful. How do propose to educate and end these violent actions? These violent actions are not MY FAULT as you say.The trouble maker, your words, are discrediting the peaceful protesters. How do you suggest we end the riots? As you said, they are taking the focus away from the real problem. Calling me names solves nothing. I have not attacked you with my words. I am having an educated and rational discussion.

          • RayScott

            I can’t suggest nothing because I can’t control anybody’s action. However I can pray and hope for the best. Trouble makers, are NOT discrediting the peaceful protesters because that’s just what they are, TROUBLE MAKERS, they do not have control or authority over anything that goes on during a protest.

          • Kimberly Larkin Hotaling

            They are discrediting the peaceful protesters because the media is giving them all of the attention! People are only seeing the negative.

          • RayScott

            And it’s up to US to see the positive. Why do you care what the MEDIA portrays?

          • Kimberly Larkin Hotaling

            Because most people will not look deeper!!!! Stereotypes are being pprtrayed in the media!!!!! The bad seed arbitrarily beat white people for simply being white, the bad seed is attacking all cops, the bad seed at the moment is the face of the “protests”. What do you think would happen to me if I went into a riot and tried to reason with someone breaking into a store or burning a building?

          • RayScott

            You don’t reason with them. It’s not your job to. Your job is to stand firm with them PEACEFUL protesters.

          • Deanna Powers

            You excuse bad riots from blacks, but not a few bad cops, look who is the idiot here!

          • RayScott

            Sorry, you lost me after “You excuse…”

          • Deanna Powers

            I can’t discuss important shit with stupid remarks, come back after you are educated, then would love to debate with you!

          • RayScott

            I’m sorry what was that? I couldn’t make out what you were saying with all of that idiocy in your post.

          • Deanna Powers

            Maybe you can understand this, whas up nigger,yo bro shoot crackers

          • RayScott

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

          • Michael Fain

            The fact that you think you are the solution SCREAMS that you haven’t a clue what the problem is.

          • RayScott

            The problem is white supremacy. Blacks have been trying to put a stop to it for decades. But whites don’t want to seem to let go of their racist beliefs. That’s the problem.

          • Tom Reinheimer

            You are crazy.

          • RayScott

            If i’m crazy then what are you?

          • scott sweeney

            White supremacy? Are there white supremacists out there…you betcha…but you my racist friend have it in your head that all whites are racist and “White Supremacists.” Because someone is white does not make them ineligible to comment on race related matters. Basically it’s like saying all blacks are BLM terrorists…are you a BLM terrorist out there shooting cops and looting your own neighborhoods? I think not…so have some perspective bruh before you mouth this white supremacy bull shit.

          • RayScott

            First of all, I can mouth whatever the fuck I wan’t. If there are whites in the who refuse to even ACKNOWLEDGE that the IS white supremacists in this country who are making race relations worse, than they are guilty by association. BLM has NOTHING to do with thugs shooting cops. Because they’re just thugs shooting cops/rioting ect.

          • scott sweeney

            I think we can all agree there are white supremacist out there. If anyone denies that then they are ignorant pricks. But I ask you, are there blacks racist against whites? If you say no, then my friend we cannot continue this debate, because you are blinded by ignorance. Racism has no color. If you as a black man call an Asian a “chink” and degrade them by their culture or skin color, just because you are black and your people are subject to racism, are you given a free pass at being a racist cuz your black??? And another thing, this article is about the TRUTH behind what happened with this police shooting, where an African American officer shot an African American male with a gun….why bring whites vs. blacks into this? How are YOU improving race relations by doing that?

          • RayScott

            Because whites choose to make it into white versus black by refusing to acknowledge the PEACEFUL protests and listen to what the mighty media tells them.

          • scott sweeney

            Listen, if anyone makes this whites vs blacks it’s the media….take your typical media article headline regarding police shootings that involve white officers and black assailants………..unarmed black teen shot and killed by white officer….white officer shoots unarmed black man, etc…….THEN, later on the real facts show what really happened…..but the facts don’t matter at this point. Because the headline already grabs you and skews your opinion thereby furthering your race divide. Why do you think white people get fed up with this shit? Cuz African Americans read the headlines that are biased, untrue and misleading and then they begin to loot, because heaven forbid they wait to hear the facts.,….but by this point so much of this has gone on in the media they no longer care about the facts in any case anymore, and commence to demonstrating and eventual looting.

          • RayScott

            What if a teen was LITERALLY unarmed (with his hands) and the officer was LITERALLY WHITE. Why do ignore the Peaceful protests. I bet you listen to the media too. Blacks follow direction but end up shot anyway (Terrence Crutcher) (seatbelt guy in South Carolina)

          • scott sweeney

            Dude I 100% do not follow the media. How can you make that assumption based on my previous comment ABOUT the biased media. Again, your missing the point. If it turned out that a teen WAS unarmed but as the facts show over time that the teen went for the officers gun in a scuffle, why not change the article to say the truth, “officer shoots teen who attempted to grab his gun during altercation.” Why must it be WHITE COP SHOOTS UNARMED BLACK TEEN. Look at the case of Michael Brown, the kid fought with the cop, who was rightfully attempting to question him as he fit the description of an assailant who just robbed a convenient store, who then went for the officer’s gun and was then shot. BUT what did the media pick up on? OHHH he had his hands up and the cop executed him in cold blood. C’mon man your smarter than this…………

          • RayScott

            The funny part is that i’m not even talking about Michael Brown. Do your research. Blacks who follow directions are MORE likely to be shot by a racist cop than a white person. And then you wonder why people like Micah Johnson and Gavin Long exist.

          • scott sweeney

            Dude your a moron, I made the reference to Michael Brown because of the discussion on media headlines. It was completely relevant to conversation we were just having. I can’t talk to you man. You have your blinders on and that’s that. Have a good one.

          • RayScott

            By the way it’s “You’re”. You have a good one too.

          • scott sweeney

            Nice response bro. You can’t even have a civil conversation with someone. Keep on being a racist black dude and getting crush by everyone on this message board. Your such an ignorant fuck it defies description.

          • RayScott

            See what I mean?! Whites point the finger and blame US For EVERYTHING. And they wonder why race relations are so bad! LOL

          • scott sweeney

            ahhahahaha actually it’s not you’re in this case you fucking retard. Am I trying to say ” you have ‘you are’ blinders on” Cuz that is what you’re is abbreviated to mean. ‘Your’ is the appropriate word in that context. Dude just stop now before you hurt your brain.

          • RayScott

            What? You’re not even making sense now. “Your a moron” LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

          • Shawn5544

            Let me clear it up for you…….scott sweeney stated: “Dude your a moron, I made the reference to Michael Brown because of the
            discussion on media headlines. It was completely relevant to
            conversation we were just having. I can’t talk to you man. You have your
            blinders on and that’s that. Have a good one.” To which you replied: “By the way it’s “You’re”. You have a good one too.” scott sweeney was correct, you sir, were incorrect. Your demonstrates possession “your blinders”. You’re would illustrate a contraction short for you are which would make no sense within this context. See that? No name calling. No racist remarks. Just a simple English lesson.

          • RayScott

            “Dude your a moron” “Dude You’re (You are) a moron”
            Which one sounds correct to you?

          • Shawn5544

            OK, can you provide your source and the numbers for the statistic quoted? ” Blacks who follow directions are MORE likely to be shot by a racist cop than a white person.” Obviously you researched this prior to posting it because, well, that would be no different than the media.

          • Justin Jurek

            What peaceful protests? The ones where BLM nutcases were chanting for the murder of police officers? The ones where thugs looted and burned? The only peaceful one I know of was one in my own hometown of Hampton Roads where protestors hugged the police who came out to provide security. I have immense respsect for them, but the rest? Nope.

          • RayScott

            There is peaceful protest that happen everyday across the country. But you’re so dense that you can’t even look past what the media is showing your empty mind, sad.

          • BUD12

            Genius–I hope you’re getting paid for this stupidity. I’d hate to think you’re wasting your miserable life in this manner….

          • RayScott

            You’re the only one miserable. I love my life. How’s blaming blacks going for you, bitch.

          • BUD12

            First, I love my life. I’m retired and run a working farm/ranch, which has been my life’s dream. Since you passed judgment on my life, I’ll return the favor: Even amoeba love a cesspool. As for blaming blacks, which is your own vicious racist view, it goes back to “clean up your own backyard.” Since you choose to ignore the statistics and public record, assisting the authorities results in “stitches for snitches,” and voting for the dummycrat urban racketeers who haven’t taken care of their constituents for decades, what have you done to change the situation, other than lie about those of us who do?

          • BUD12

            By the way, troll–GO HOME!

          • RayScott

            You first, bitch.

          • BUD12

            I know this is a stretch for your limited mental capacity, but I’m already home, racist.

          • RayScott

            Really? I thought you people were “hard workers”.

          • BUD12

            Try running a farm, moron. My day starts at 0430 and extends into dusk, seven days a week. How’s your life at the shelter, racist? I hope the meds are good…

          • RayScott

            What shelter? Working 9 to 5 isn’t a “shelter”, bitch.

          • BUD12

            Sure it is…You’ve been shoveling racist manure on this site for over two hours. I guess you get the famous “three hour lunch” at the shelter, racist?

          • Jonathan Miller

            He is home, his home is where his work is… You couldn’t handle it for a frigging day, Ray. Black farmers…Rare enough to be a fairy tale in this state…

          • RayScott

            I’m pretty sure he told me that. What are you his parrot?

          • BUD12

            Hi, Scott–Great insight, but I think Ray is a racist who’s beyond reason…

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            When did rioting, looting, vandalizing property and attacking someone become “peaceful protests”?

          • RayScott

            Those aren’t the ones the media is showing you. Sadly, you’ve drank the kool aid.

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            Then by all means link to some of those other protests – if they are out there someone must have filmed them.

          • RayScott

            Google “All lives matter and black lives matter come together” one idiot even had a confederate rag on the back of his shirt.

          • JaTu

            The root of the problem here is that your “peaceful protests” are based on lies..these black thugs that BLM is protesting for get shot by the police because of their actions and then their families scream how innocent they were…exactly like this article is pointing out. The general public does not buy into those lies and so we see the BLM movement as ignorant people believing emotion over facts. Plus the rioting does not help their cause.

          • RayScott

            So what are you doing to help race relations. The PEACEFUL protesters aren’t the “rioters” but that might be too much info for your thick skull to handle.

          • Guns are good!

            We have a BLACK president dumbass…Talk about high and mighty!!! He gave everyone of you cel phones and Obummercare at the cost of the middle class!

          • RayScott

            And he’s also put more jobs in America than any of our last presidents. He’s also got rid of the world’s most dangerous terrorists (Jihad John) (Osama bin ladin) Instead of bashing our first black president, you should be kissing his feet, bitch.

          • Guns are good!

            Bitch? How cute. Must suck being so ignorant to the truth…That is the problem with you and your “crooks and others”…errr, I meant Brothers and sisters. I never called a name, but you went there. You are the problem with the race crap going on now…Ignorance and petty name calling. It must suck to have so many people proving you wrong here and all you can do is name call and tell me to worship the worst pres in history…GFYS.

          • RayScott

            Fuck out of here, then. “Crooks and others”. Yeah, tell me you aren’t making this about race.

          • Guns are good!

            I just call it like I see it. Facts don’t lie :-*

          • RayScott

            Here’s a fact, bitch. 87% of whites are murdered by whites. Not blacks.

          • Guns are good!

            Whats the stats for Chicago alone? 75% are blacks, 71% are killed by other blacks which equals 95% Black on Black. Suck it Trebek

          • RayScott

            You’re talking Chicago. I’m talking NATIONWIDE. Black on white crime is RARE! Bitch.

          • Guns are good!

            Black on Black murder rate is at 93% nationwide. Which proved my point from earlier…black on black crime is the problem, Pumkin.

          • RayScott

            If 87% of whites are murdered by other whites nationwide then white-on-white crime is the problem too, bitch.

          • Guns are good!

            That is the smartest thing I have seen you type yet…Congrats! You are growing up pumkin.

          • RayScott

            The difference between me and you is that i’m GROWING up and you’re still a LITTLE BITCH.

          • Guns are good!

            How cute. So thankful I wore a uniform to protect our rights as Americans. It is a shame you are as ignorant as you are. I think I’ll go talk to someone a little more intelligent…someone that doesn’t turn offensive once proven wrong. Take care Pumkin!

          • RayScott

            You haven’t proven me wrong YET, bitch. The facts speak for themselves.

          • John J Rouse

            He’s another fact, negro. 97% of blacks are murdered by other blacks. But when we look at interracial murders, you rape apes lead them across the board.

          • RayScott

            Not really, cracker. 87% of you cumskin apes are murder by other cumskins. That and suicide are the leading cause of population decline for the European cave ape. LOL

          • John J Rouse

            The leading cause of death of the pavement ape besides AIDS is other pavement apes.

          • RayScott

            So why did the black population between 2010-2015 GREW from 12.2% to 13.4%

          • Immigration?

          • John J Rouse

            You’re at 13.2, 1965 you were at,11.4.

          • RayScott

            Any reason for the steady pace?

          • John J Rouse

            2% in 50 years is a steady pace? I know why you all havnt gone extinct yet. Our compassion for animals.

          • RayScott

            Compassion? Nope. It’s more in our blood line. The most versatile race in existence. Why do you think your women want us?

          • John J Rouse

            You mean the dumbest, ugliest, least accomplished race on the planet. Yea, fat white trash girls need love too.

          • RayScott

            White women HATE you. They seem to have jungle fever.

          • John J Rouse

            No actually they don’t. Only the fat rejects who are one step away from lesbianism. But yours sure do, unfortunately more are fat and ugly.

          • RayScott

            OK. Tell your men to stop dating our women. And tell your people to stop listening to hip-hop.

          • John J Rouse

            We don’t date you’re women. He’ll most look like men

          • Jonathan Miller

            Oh, wow…you think a 1.2% increase 5 years is a bragging issue…no wonder you loves da Obama…

          • Harvey CathynDee James

            wernt you yelling on the video?

          • BUD12

            Wrong, fool. Besides inferential statistics, maybe you should take a course in economics, too…..

          • RayScott

            How was first day at kindergarten, bitch.

          • Harvey CathynDee James

            lol–it was those white republican governors going over seas and talking companies into coming back to the us that produced those jobs–look at the democraticly held areas- they still hunting jobs unless they moved/relocated

          • Harrison7973

            I’m not going to kiss his feet for Taco Bell jobs because that’s just about the only jobs he’s created. Very little middle class jobs were created we lost more than we gained.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Obama’s white half sucks just as bad as his black half…worst President ever. 9.5 trillion dollars spent to raise GDP to 1.1%, and keep REAL UNEMPLOYMENT to 12%…

            Democrats must lie like Hillary because facts show they suck…

          • Michael Lemons

            There are whites in the country who want to cause division. It is your masters, the Democratic party. They hire high paid Uncle Toms like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to keep things stirred up. Then they come out and make these BS statements to make it appear as if they are behind you. Then they allow you to become dependent on government assistance and housing so they can keep you right there on one of these intercity plantations. Now that your dependent, when election time rolls around they say okay you got you food stamps, you cheap housing, and your Obama phone, now vote for me. Funny things is, all you can do is say yassa massa, I’ma vote real good for you. You are trapped on a plantation with no fences, and the only thing keeping you from leaving, is you.

          • RayScott

            How do you know who I vote for? Do you have my voter’s registration? You don’t know a single thing about me. Just assumptions. Now tell me who’s the real racist.

          • Jonathan Miller

            We can tell from your racist mouth that you would Lick the sweat from O’s balls and thank him for the opportunity.

          • RayScott

            I know for sure that YOU like to get on those knees drink every drop of cum I give and thank me for it.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Sorry, I came first in your mouth, it wasn’t rubber, it was glue… It didn’t bounce on me, it stuck it to you… Goodbye, Duh Mass…!

            Get a job beside Sucking Soros Dic…you blew at that, too…

          • RayScott

            Who the hell is “Soros”? Is that some kind of Harry Potter character? Keep blowing, bitch. Using those pussy ass kid lines ” it wasn’t rubber, it was glue… It didn’t bounce on me, it stuck it to you”

          • ♧BobbiEllen♧

            I don’t want to get involved. However, I really wish the Obama phone myth would die. the program was started by Republicans and continued by EVERY president. It’s not even technically a tax payer supported program.
            “Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.”
            These phone companies LOBBY for this program for several reasons (perks). Can’t stand when people are angry at the wrong source.

          • BUD12

            True, you can mouth whatever you want. The only problem is that it’s illogical gibberish. Yawn–Go home, racist troll!

          • RayScott

            You’re the one blaming all blacks for your shortcomings, racist bitch.

          • jmac1111

            but a few white supremacists can have you blaming whitey for eveything…you do realize that there are just as many bigoted blacks but i guess you will ignore that…and stop with white on white crime because it is very small when compared to black on black murder….try per capita it helps

          • RayScott

            Really? 87%? Doesn’t sound “very small” to me. Stop trying to downplay it. You know it’s a problem. “Black-on-White” crime barely exists.

          • jmac1111

            actually if you break it down per capita then its a much worse problem for blacks than whites considering 47% of ALL violent crime is committed by 13% of the population….but you will ignore those numbers….the biggest threat to black males lives between the ages of 17-35 are other black males FACT… for whites its not even i the top 10…. nice try… numbers can be used anyway you want but per capita is the only true number and sorry it doesnt help your phony argument

          • RayScott

            Well lets break do who shot and killed police officers so far this year
            Source: ODMP
            Cops killed by whites: 22
            Cops killed by blacks 17
            Who should cops fear the most?

          • jmac1111

            so at 13% of the population vs 65% of the population per capita it would be blacks that should be feared most….. sorry how you cant figure out the per capita thing…13% commit 47% of the violent crime…. that means cops have to deal with a much higher percentage of violent blacks than they do whites so theres your answer genius but nice try…. BTW i checked the ODMP page and NOWHERE does it break it down by color…so where did you get your numbers from..not that it matters as i proved with the per capita that blacks percentage wise are much more likely to kill a cop

          • jmac1111

            according to the DOJ 39% of the victims of black violence are white while 3% of the victims of white violence are black SO again genius follow this as the DOJ says whites are 27 times more likely to be victims of black violence than blacks are victims of white violence …. don’t you hate when the US Department of Justice which is run by an African AMerican prove you very very wrong….again nice try but you cant have your own facts… 27 times more likely means the not only does black on white violence exist but its at extremely high numbers while white on black crime BARELY EXISTS to use your words…education is important so get some

          • John J Rouse

            I’d imagine everyone seems superior to you since the black average IQ is only 85. This is what happens when our rulers lie to us and call us equals.

          • RayScott

            What are you gonna do about it, pussy.

          • John J Rouse

            Keep killing y’all and getting away with it is a good start.

          • RayScott

            Like we’re doing with you bums? Try it.

          • John J Rouse

            Y’all get the needle when you kill us, we get paid leave. Lmfwaooo

          • RayScott

            100s of Unsolved Black on white murders. Whites don’t matter. LOL

          • John J Rouse

            No, we just arrest and kill someone that looks like the suspook. That’s good enough for me.

          • RayScott

            Is that why they’re still unsolved murders? HAHAAHAHAH.

          • John J Rouse

            Solved as far as I’m concerned.

          • RayScott

            Did Michael Dunn go free?

          • John J Rouse

            No, be we hook up his commissary account. He was a soldier. But I guess that dead punk won’t be playing anymore loud music. Lmao

          • RayScott

            And Dakota fields wont be threatening any innocent black people ever again. LOL.

          • John J Rouse

            Neither will trayboon and Mikey brown.

          • RayScott

            Neither will Joseph Harvey and Jonathan Ables.

          • John J Rouse

            Oh yea and that thug bitch Korryn Gaines. Just announced today that the cops won’t charge themselves. How you like dem apples, champ?

          • RayScott

            Well she was armed and shot at the cops. I don’t know who your trying to say face to. But it’s not me for one because I could care less, retard.

          • John J Rouse

            I can’t even remember most of the names of the negros we killed. Lol, that’s how much they mean to me. I’ll walk over their corpses while eating a pork sandwich.

          • RayScott

            Please. I shit on the graves of crackers who were killed in my city. Because in my neck of the woods we use peckerwoods for target practice.

          • John J Rouse

            No matter what city you live in, I’m banking that much much much more muds have been killed.

          • RayScott

            I’m looking outside and I can see it’s pretty peaceful. No peckerwood would dare show his/her face around here, however.

          • John J Rouse

            Sounds like the ghetto. Most kneegers don’t wake up until after midnight

          • RayScott

            Well since our suburb is well kept, most of of the children turn in at a certain time.

          • John J Rouse

            Where?

          • RayScott

            None of your fucking business, bitch.

          • Jonathan Miller

            You use peckers for target practice? With your mouth?

          • Shawn5544

            Are you stating that you have killed many Black people and have gone unpunished?

          • John J Rouse

            That’s what happens when you spend almost 2 years in Somalia. I also see you didn’t say anything to the black who claimed to kill many whites….racist much?

          • Shawn5544

            So are you saying that you have killed White people within your community and have gone unpunished?

          • RayScott

            Not just me, Other fed up blacks.

          • Shawn5544

            Sorry, you do not get to say that Black on White crime barely exists and then come out the side of your neck with “like we’re doing with you bums”. That is a contradiction. If Black on White crime barely exists then it probably stands to reason that Blacks are not really killing Whites. Right Ray?

          • RayScott

            We only kill dumb whites who act like him. Most whites know their place and don’t cause any problems.

          • Shawn5544

            Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton are both White Supremacists.

          • Harvey CathynDee James

            its funny- out of the millions and millions of people in the us- the few thousand supremacists still get blamed for everythin that keep blacks down—will the last one alive please leave a apology note upon dying please so they know they are extinct….

          • Harvey CathynDee James

            then they’ll accuse the jews….lol

          • spankee

            the jews are the reason they hate us, jews have been keeping blacks down forever….. and brainwashing people thru the media….. Democrats keep people down, thats what they do. And start race wars…..

          • spankee

            Amen to that, these fools dont see that the media and Obama wants us all at each others throats…… How can people be so damn blind?

          • JGB1967

            White supremacy my ass, U are a self pitying pathetic joke. U want a career of of so called victimhood, all u are is a sulking vicious, nasty finger pointing prick!!

          • RayScott

            What are you gonna do about us, bitch. I never been a victim of you racist punks. But plenty of my brothers and sisters have. But we always bounce back from any setback thrown our way. From Slavery and Jim crow. To MLK and the Civil Rights Movement. There is NO obstacle we wont overcome.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Slavery, dumbass, Democrats. Jim Crow, moron, Democrats. MLK, Republican. Civil Rights of 1964, 62 Democrat total votes for, 99 Republican votes for… LBJ, put your people on welfare and said “We will have those N***** voting Democrat for 200 years…

            The problems with blacks are that they hang with stupid people of the Democratic Party. Get a clue. You hang around with trash, you act like it and become trash.

          • RayScott

            Once again, i’m going to ask you how do you know who I voted for? Do you have my voter’s registration? How do you know they aren’t any black trump voters?

          • JGB1967

            My ancestors were slaves sent to Maryland by Cromwell, labelled white trash by blacks u racist pathetic whining self pitying POS. Irish get on with it, you lot wallow in pity, grow a pair, PUSSY BITCH!

          • Guns are good!

            You are off of your rocker. The problem is black on black crime, blaming the whites for your lack of raising your kids right and to be a contributing member of society. But it is a sad truth that a majority of the blacks I come in contact with (NOT my co-workers), have the “I am entitled to…” attitude. THERE is your problem.

          • RayScott

            What about white-on-white crime? This is why your population is sinking. Because you’re not focusing on YOUR problems and pay attention to everything blacks do.

          • BUD12

            You need to study inferential statistics–You’re absolutely, totally wrong. From your last posts, the problem is in the mirror–Deal with it!

          • RayScott

            Deal with YOUR problems before talking about anyone else’s problems, bitch.

          • Harvey CathynDee James

            i didnt think it would take but three posts to resort to name calling on your part

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            You might to take your own advice.

          • Jennie Marie

            black people comprise 13% of the total population of this country, yet commit more than 45% of all violent crime. An you wonder why some whites are a bit stand-offish with black folks?? Do something about your high crime rates, then we can talk.

          • RayScott

            Don’t cast stones when you live in a glass house. White-on-white crime is still existent in many white communities.

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            As is black on black crime in black communities – and yet you sit there behind your keyboard bitching about a cop killing a black man when that black man was armed and aiming at the cops. Oh, and yeah, the cop that shot him was also a black man. You want to talk about casting stones in a glass house?

          • RayScott

            I haven’t blamed whites for a single thing. Stop crying victim, pussy.

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            So you have to resort to name calling to try to prove your point? How old are you, kid? 8? 10? Definitely too young and immature to be having an adult conversation.

            And let’s rewind back to this comment of yours:

            RayScott Guns are good! • 8 hours ago
            What about white-on-white crime? This is why your population is sinking. Because you’re not focusing on YOUR problems and pay attention to everything blacks do.

            Looks like you are casting blame on white people for “not focusing on their problems” while you ignore your own. That, kid, is called hypocrisy.

          • RayScott

            I don’t blame whites for not focusing on their issues. If I was angry at the world and hated minorities I would be like that too. It’s something you morons have YET to work on.

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            And once again with the name calling – I could descend to your level and beat you at that too but I’m in a generous mood so I’ll refrain from referring to you as a whiny punk ass beta male bitch. The only ones angry at the world are the ones crying about how badly they are treated by the police and white people when they’ve killed more of their own than police and white people put together. Yeah, white people have some work to do but so do you.

          • RayScott

            “Descend”?! I sincerely think you’ve confused the words “Ascend and Descend”, punk. In order for me to get to your level I have to STEP DOWN. You aren’t in a position to judge ANYONE, let alone an entire race of people.

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            Says the whiny punk ass beta male bitch. Cry some more, bitch tears are delicious.

          • RayScott

            Tell me how is that “white genocide” going for ya…

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            Depending on your point of view much worse than that black genocide – black people are killing each other off at a higher rate than white people are killing each other off.

            As for those bitch tears – keep ’em coming! Tasty!!!!

          • RayScott

            I like your attitude. However if you had anything working in that empty head of your’s you would realize that I don’t benefit from crying victim. Whites do. Why do you think they try so hard to discredit BLM? I got a case full of white tears, bitch.

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            Did you hear that? A semi full of fresh bitch tears just pulled up…

            And BLM discredits themselves – no one has to do it for them. It’s a movement based on a lie. Instead of using “gentle giant” Michael Brown who had just robbed a convenience store and tried to take Officer Wilson’s gun they’d have been better off using Trayvon Martin who was stalked and killed by that idiot George Zimmerman. Instead of all of the rioting and looting they should have taken a page from Rev. Dr Martin Luther King Jr’s book and actually peacefully protested.

            Here’s the thing – most of us actually understand the message and most of us don’t have issues with people of other “races”. It’s the extremists, the violent “protesters”, the race baiters, the media that want to tear everyone apart and it’s all for the money. None of them give a flying fuck about any of us. Just my two cents.

            But do keep the bitch tears coming – they keep for years so one can never have too many!

          • RayScott

            The moment a white uses the “Dr. Martin Luther King Jr” line it discredits them completely. Who killed MLK? It seems like you have a problem with the world and take your anger out on minorities. But i’m not the man you should be talking to. Talk to your husband, bitch.

          • bannedbymotherjones✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ

            The moment you whine about a white man mentioning Dr. King is when you lose all credibility – his dream was for all of us. I’m not sorry if facts hurt your little feelings snowflake… and completely derail your idiotic claim that there have been peaceful protests by BLM. And BTW – I’ve spoken to your wife… well, she’ll be filing for divorce. Turns out she wants a real man with a job and not a beta male sponging off of the government. Whoops, did I trigger you again? Good, more of those delicious bitch tears. They are like a fine wine.

          • John J Rouse

            Our crime rates are below our,population percentages, unlike you rape apes.

          • spankee

            yes but not like black on black crime, them people kill each other everyday in Baltimore, DC and Chicago, the numbers are insane, yet no one addresses that its always whites getting blamed. Same ole shit, and black on white crime gioes unreported, they dont want to “offend” the blacks. We are sick of this one way bs. Blacks have had more advantages than any other group of people yet still are down ? Thats becasue thats where the democrats want you, down and dependent on them…. If blacks wanted a better life they have every opportunity out there to do so, yet remain in poverty in every major inner city…. Tired of hearing how its the white mans fault. Your black president didnt do shit to help you people either yet you adore him…… Go figure

          • Troy Extinct Wooten

            yeah go figure, why don’t blacks do better in the inner city. it’s their on fault every successful black community was destroyed by white people. its their fault that white education doesn’t apply to them. How dare they ask for affordable housing. who are they to ask for decent food to be sold in their grocery stores. its their own fault that the cheapest cuts of meat go to white markets. it’s their own fault that all the property is own by white developer. the fact is, that the laws are designed to keep people of color down. we are all being manipulated by the wealthy. drugs, alcohol, over policing these are the three prominent evils in the inner city. drugs brought in by white boats and planes, alcohol made in white distilleries, and police raised in racist white families.

          • Troy Extinct Wooten

            these are statistic made up from white atrocities. white people have committed more crime then another other group of people in history. The crusades, the inquisition, giving the native Americans polio, testing chemical weapons on black GIs, Concentration camps, every since white people emerged from caves they have done nothing but destroy everything around them. be it in the name of God, greed, or country. every where white people go they have betrayed the indigenous people who helped them survive. our kindness paved the way for your treachery.

          • Would that be the Celtic “white”, the Germanic “white”, the Greco-Roman “white”, the Arab “white”, the Anglo-Saxon “white”, the Russian “white”?
            Which “white” are you talking about?

          • Troy Extinct Wooten

            all of them. there are no native american white people

          • Otescia Johnson

            The problem with crime statistics is they only report convictions. When the wealthy get a big shot legal team to get them off they are excluded from the numbers. And if that isn’t enough…most serial killers are white. Most acts of terror committed on American soil are committed by whites….i.e. The Oklahoma City bombing, the idiot that shot up the movie theater, Columbine….. My point is that HUMANS commit crimes. The color of a person’s skin does not determine whether or not they are violent.

          • Shawn5544

            Beltway Sniper Attacks; Tennessee Highway Shooter; Dallas Police Officer gunman; Black Panther Party there are terrorists of all color and I will include the KKK for you. Yes, humans commit crimes and pointing fingers at exactly which race is committing more crime isn’t going to help. The question is, what are we doing to educate our children and our communities about racism? Is it enough? Where do we draw the line in regard to the white population’s responsibility for the enslavement of Blacks hundreds of years ago? When do Whites stop looking at Blacks as Blacks and see only another Human? When will politicians stop using race as a measure of division for personal and party gain instead of as a measure for unity no matter who wins the election?

          • John J Rouse

            Black crime is the one out of control. In every crime category your stats exceed that of your population.

          • RayScott

            Where’s the black-on-black crime in places like Vermont, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, New Hampshire, Maine ect?

          • From Wyoming. . .
            Out here it’s mostly white on white or red on red crime.
            There are just not that many people of color in Wyoming.
            When I lived in Arizona it was mostly white on white or Hispanic on Hispanic crime.
            Criminals tend to victimise their neighbors & humans, no matter their skin color, tend to live around people who look like them. Racist or not that’s the truth.

          • John J Rouse

            Why are they called colored people when the very definition of black means absence of color.

          • That depends on if you’re speaking of art & pigment or of light & the fractal qualities thereof.

            Aside from that very few “black” people are actually black just as very few “white” people are truly white.

          • John J Rouse

            Funny you should mention those areas. The less negros around, the less crime. See a pattern there, chimpy?

          • RayScott

            Salt lake city, Utah? Nice try, bitch.

          • John J Rouse

            Salt lake has way less crime then areas like NigerMore, Filthadelphia, Detoilet and Chimpcago.

          • RayScott

            I’ll take a bet that you wouldn’t dare come out your tongue like that to a black man’s face.

          • John J Rouse

            I’d love nothing more than to kill another one of y’all. And claim self defense like I did before.

          • RayScott

            So did I. Love killing you crackers.

          • John J Rouse

            You never killed anyone. You all are too stupid to know how to get away with it.

          • RayScott

            So why is the victim rotting and I’m still typing.

          • John J Rouse

            Because like the color of your skin…you’re full of shit.

          • RayScott

            HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH!!!!

          • Jonathan Miller

            You black, you the so,union, saying we should offer you the Olive Branch, now you’re bragging about killing somebody white? Did you rob and rape them as well before or after you killed them?

          • RayScott

            Only in self defense. Otherwise I wouldn’t be bragging. If you didn’t bother to read what the other guy was saying don’t make it your business.

          • Jonathan Miller

            If you’re proud of killing anybody, you’re a piece of she it with limited mental capacity… Same for anybody else, in the same boat…

          • RayScott

            LOL You really think I killed somebody. Sorry, but i’m not as violent as whites. I’ll never stoop to your level. What are your thoughts on George Shitterman?

          • ♧BobbiEllen♧

            A terrible thing to say. Especially now a days when people keep murdering each other over things that don’t matter.

          • Flyn2hi

            Keyboard gangters….sigh.

          • John J Rouse

            Knee grows

          • Flyn2hi

            Usually between the ages of puberty, anything else?

          • Dave Grubbs

            The white on white crime in those places is far less than predominately black areas and their black on black crime.

            You keep running from the reality that your race is dysfunctional, but we are just going to keep showing you that it is, forever.

          • RayScott

            You may think I’m running from reality but I’m only showing you a mirror. That’s not something you’d want to hide behind.

          • StinkyTom

            Black-on-Black crime is there where it is to be expected Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, Baltimore etc., etc. i.e. you find it always there where the crime rate is a hundred times higher than in Vermont, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, New Hampshire, Maine etc.!

          • RayScott

            But those places have a growing black population. Where’s the “black crime”?

          • StinkyTom

            … by far!!

          • Kirby A. Morrison

            There may be white on white crime,BUT I have never seen whites riot in the manner I have seen blacks. Nor have I seen whites loot, rob and burn down their communities as I have seen blacks! So try again!

          • RayScott

            Whites riot over sporting events and pumpkins so shut the hell up.

          • Kirby A. Morrison

            Rioting over a sporting event is stupid! But I still have yet to see white riot like the blacks. And it appears what they are rioting over is an out and out LIE. He had a gun not a book!

          • Joyous224

            What about white on white crime? Stop using that as an excuse for officers being fearful of people of color just cause of their color

          • Harvey CathynDee James

            i think they were afraid of the color of his piece in this case and his intentions in using it

          • Dave Grubbs

            Whites don’t blame blacks when black cops shoot whites, they blame the person getting shot for being an idiot.

          • Flyn2hi

            Never hear the terms, “white on white crime.” (Which is actually much more prevalent than crime in the black community by the way).

          • gladitsnight

            Did you not read that it was a black cop who shot this guy?

          • RayScott

            ONE time. What about the rest? Is it not systematic?

          • gladitsnight

            Recently in Wisconsin a black officer shot a black man.also. There have also been white men shot recently, but white people are smart enough not to defend criminals.

          • RayScott

            That’s TWO. Where’s the others.

          • Harvey CathynDee James

            you know-if the shooter wasnt a cop-and was black-it wouldnt have made the news much less cause this much commotion…..

          • gladitsnight

            He is black.

          • Joyous224

            still an officer reacting with fatal blows instead of subduing a suspect
            That is the issue

          • libwithIQ

            The guy had a gun and would not drop it. How would you subdue an armed man who wouldn’t put down his gun?

          • Joyous224

            The same way they deescalate and subdue other people during actual shoot outs like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_FkzbTf-KM
            and there is no evidence that he had a gun.

          • gladitsnight

            How do you “subdue” someone with a gun, when they refuse to drop it? Wait to see if you’re the one he shoots?

          • spankee

            no you are sadly wrong, no one hates the blacks any more than they hate themselves. We arent responsible for their problems they are. largest group of people on welfare since it began, yet still cant survive on their own without help from the govt, The govt is their slave master now…… They have not broken free at all. just different masters

          • RayScott

            Be careful who you talk about. Because they’re are many wealthy blacks you’ve never heard of. Who said you were responsible for anything? Playing the victim much?

          • Deborah Basile

            A black man shot a black man just saying.

          • RayScott

            OK. Is this like a trend or something?

          • Jonathan Miller

            Chicago is the most violence the place in America, it isn’t the white people doing it, either…

          • RayScott

            Actually, Chicago isn’t 100% black. If you count the Hispanics (white) shooters and fatalities and other races that die the number is pretty equal.

          • Shawn5544

            Stop voting Democrat. The reason Democrats focus so much on race relations and the desire of all others to destroy those relations is simply a diversion from their own agenda. Cloward-Piven Strategy. Take a look at President Lyndon Johnson’s
            1964 “War on Poverty” and Cloward-Piven’s 1966 political strategy, the total recipients on welfare rocketed from 4.3 million to 10.8 million from 1965 through 1974.

            Today, roughly $1 trillion annually is given to more than 107 million Americans who receive some type of government benefits – not including Social Security, Medicare or unemployment.

            In 2007, there were 26 million recipients alone of food stamps before Obama took office. There are now a record 47 million
            and climbing. And that doesn’t include the expansion of other entitlements (like Obamacare) given to that skyrocketing
            number of so-called “needy people.”

            Government subsidies are utilized like Crack Cocaine. To form a dependency and take away the dreams of impoverished Americans. If a family must rely on Government assistance to pull them through the lean times then by all means, feed your family. When those subsidies turn into a families sole support element then those families are dependent on that system and the cycle begins because the children learn that this is the way and their children and it spirals out of control. Subsidized housing is a measure of control keeping the impoverished confined to a specific area regularly patrolled by police and you rarely see Blacks being shot by Police in affluent neighborhoods. I am certain you have heard the phrase “shooting fish in a barrel”. Easier to control the perceived problem if they are all housed together. (Living off the Government is not freedom)

          • Memphomaniac

            You AM..the Problem.

          • BUD12

            Huh? The olive branch has been extended for decades–You have to make the effort to grasp it…..

          • RayScott

            We have. But you guys keep pulling it back.

          • Jennie Marie

            they try, but the last few protests, blacks have attacked whites simply for being white. Especially the protests in Wisconsin. Why should we help when you so openly despise us??

          • RayScott

            Do we really despise you? Or is it you guys who despise us?

          • Judith77

            huh, you sound like you are a big boy. We ALL have stressful times. Nobody is going to hold your hand, especially if there’s a gun in it.

          • RayScott

            This is the problem right here folks. Racist assumptions. I’ll never hold your hand either, pussy.

          • Audra Webster

            Why is it up to everyone else to extent the olive branch? Everyone has stressful times! I don’t expect anyone to have my back! All I ask is respect and kindness, which seems to me that you are not capable of sir. I hope you find peace and be part of the solution not part of the problem! Hold meetings with your peers and try to find a peace compromise to end hate and spread love!

          • RayScott

            Well you’re part of the group that says WE’RE responsible for “destroying race relations”. Where’s your solution?

          • Audra Webster

            What is my solution?? It’s very simple I have a program that I run for children that have parents who don’t care!

          • RayScott

            You seem upset. Is that helping race relations?

          • Audra Webster

            Yes I am upset! Hate fuels hate plain and simple! Want things to change then make them change. Work for the things you want, not loot businesses in your own neighborhoods. You want respect give respect, no need to steal items you want work for them like millions of people do every single day. A job does not include sitting on your butt planing which store to loot that day. What are these people teaching their children. So I have looted toys r us because 5 Dallas police officers were shot doing their jobs. Should I show my child that’s the way to create change? Ray Scott what are you doing to creat a better neighborhood? Without name calling and being rude please!

          • RayScott

            First of all there are plenty of blacks who pull themselves up from their boot straps and made a life for themselves so watch who the fuck you’re referring to. Not all of us loot/steal.

          • Audra Webster

            See there’s the problem I didn’t say all of you I was referring to the ones that are looting and stealing! But your use of foul words is the issue. I unlike you don’t put everyone in the same category just because of their race. I asked a question…what are you doing to help the issue besides cursing and shouting hate. All you have to do is answer that question. I am trying to have an adult conversation with you but you seem to just want to spew hate and violence!

          • RayScott

            Whatever.

          • Audra Webster

            I’m serious Ray….help me make things better! Be part of the solution so everyone can be safe and happy!

          • Audra Webster

            Like I said hate creates hate, I am upset. Like I explained it starts with people who think they are entitled. My child works for what he wants, even at the age of five. He can put his clothes and toys away. These are things he needs to learn to earn his way in life. When the five Dallas police officers were shot I did not tell my child lets go loot toys r us because we are mad. I explained that bad people do bad things and anybody can be bad but most people are good. I help all kinds of people not matter what race they are. I help by setting an example of how to treat people and work together. I ask you what do you do for your community to help people in your community?

          • John J Rouse

            Thanks, but no thanks. You all aren’t the good guys anymore.

          • RayScott

            You faggots were never the good guys to begin with.

          • John J Rouse

            White is the universal color of good whereas the color of shit, on a good day, which is your color, is evil.

          • RayScott

            The only good cracker is a dead one. Enjoy that population decline.

          • John J Rouse

            Our population has actually increased, negro. Yours only up 2% in the last 50 years thanks to abortion, AIDS and other apes.

          • RayScott

            Continuing to increase, pussy. Look at the US census for 2015-2016.

          • John J Rouse

            I did, our numbers are way up. All populations are, but yours is the slowest. In Aperica it’s way up, but the death rate is high so it’s a wash

          • RayScott

            Untrue, bitch. Where can we meet up?

          • John J Rouse

            MMA guys in Arnold md. Place in the back has a private ring. I’ll even let your pussy ass wear head gear.

          • John J Rouse

            Gym not guys.

          • RayScott

            Be sure to bring your keyboard…

          • John J Rouse

            Be sure to bring a few of your homies to make it even.

          • RayScott

            I don’t have any “homies”. But I do have my two fists.

          • John J Rouse

            Two,fists and no brain. Should be an easy W for me.

          • RayScott

            Mine’s work perfectly fine. You’ll have to buy a new one for your empty head.

          • John J Rouse

            Mine isn’t plural you low iq chimp you

          • RayScott

            Aaaaaaaaaahhhhh! It took your slow ass that long to figure it out! LOL.

          • Diane Markley

            What in the world are you smoking? Have your backs and help you through stressful times you repeatedly create for yourselves? No…you are responsible for YOURSELVES! Stop playing the victim. That card is played out!

          • RayScott

            So following a police officers directions and still getting shot is not responsible enough. You morons are damned if we do and damned if we don’t.

          • Shawneh D Swan

            “Heathens” and “ferals” huh? It may not seem like your making any kind of remark about any certain group of people with those statements but you are. I am native american and for a very long time all of your ancestors called my people the same things because we value different things. Because we weren’t all about class systems and technology and money and greed they called us heathens, ferals, savages. Yet to be honest in all my study and experience, it was the Europeans that were the savages. The kind of people that cared little for others and had no problem dishing out unimaginable cruelty.they cared more about social etiquette than actual people and I see very little change in any of their ancestors. The things ALL of you “americans” value sicken me. You value greed and wealth over your fellow man. You value made up laws over what is morally in your heart right. And most of all you think that your civilization is the bees knees just because it’s yours and you ignore all the real problems with it. So perhaps you should not be quite so cavilier about whom you call heathens and ferals. And instead of blaming race so much maybe just maybe you should look at the reason otherwise normal people would be angry enough to do these things. If you think there’s not a problem with police brutality in this country you are sadly mistaken.

          • John J Rouse

            Europeans weren’t the ones enslaving other tribes and using them as food. You savages were. Fortunately most of you evolved into human beings unlike other races I know.

          • Shawneh D Swan

            Maybe you should look into history a bit before making asinine comments. The Europeans have commited every known atrocity to man. All European cultures have engaged in slavery (and still do) and as for using others as food. You must not know jack shit about the anglo Saxons (known today as britains) or the gals (known today as the scotts) or maybe the Celt (known today as the irish) and certainly you know nothing of ancient sumeria or myceneia. Every one of those cultures at one time or another practiced ritualistic cannibalism. Often times as a funeral right. Also not all native american tribes did as you say. Maybe the Aztec or Inca, possibly the Mohawks and Blackfoot as well. But that would be it. Your race however have not only commited every atrocity known to man, but have lost their oneness with nature, their sense of compassion, and created a false reality around themselves to protect their weak little minds. Also your genetics suck. I bet you get sunburned every summer. Not us natives. I bet you get sick often too. Not natives. Oh and do you want to know why your genetics suck? Because every European culture at one point practiced incest to “keep the blood lines pure”. Yup that’s right. You sir are an inbred. Natives may have done many things but at least we never fucked our family members. So the fact that an inbred phillistine such as yourself thinks me and my people are savages matters little. Choke on those facts ya prick.

          • John J Rouse

            Apericans still commit every etrocity today including incest, baby rape and cannabilsm. You all aren’t evolved so we can’t blame you for your low IQ and lack of accomplishments. We can blame evolution. You are homo Erectus. Please read “Erectus walks among us” so you can understand fully why you will always fail compare to other races. In fact, you all aren’t fully human by definition. You are sub human.

          • Shawneh D Swan

            Are you talking about americans in general or native americans? Also I think I am safe in assuming you are from Europe?

          • John J Rouse

            No such thing as native Americans u low iq gorilla

          • Shawneh D Swan

            And what would you call the indigenous people that were here before Columbus made it to this continent? (All though admittedly after Leif Ericson)

          • John J Rouse

            Fuck you keep talking about some Indians for? Are you stupid or something? We are talking about blacks. The most vile, dumbest, least accomplished, no inventions, most worthless sub race in the known universe.

          • Shawneh D Swan

            I love how you call me a low IQ gorilla yet you were not intelligent enough to fully read my first post that YOU replied to, which clearly states that I am a NATIVE AMERICAN (we are not indians. Indians come from india. We call ourselves native americans you phillistine!) My post was all about how white people called us savages and yet we were a far more civil culture than any and all Europeans. You clearly did not get the point. Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror before you tell someone else they have a low I.Q. I’m assuming you can not even pronounce many of the words I have used as they contain more than 3 syllables. So to use language you can understand…..you sir are obviously an inbred, retarded (any one who honestly thinks race has anything to do with someone’s intelligence is obviously retarded) and all around terrible human being. With that said it is clear that anyone who takes you or your opinions seriously is likewise mentally infirmed.

          • Shawneh D Swan

            I also feel the need to point out that despite your beliefs that black people are unintelligent and without inventions that Shaka zulu, a great tribal chieftain in Africa was able to drive out and subvert the British forces ( who not only out number him but had guns) with nothing more than his warriors equipped with spears and knives and his intelligence. So yea a shit ton of white mother fuckers with superior technology got their asses whipped by….what was the term you used?…..a race of vile, dumb sub-humans with spears. Hahahahahahaha. If you think that someone’s race as opposed to individual character and genetics has anything to do with intelligence then you need to reassess your superiority complex there dickwad.

          • John J Rouse

            No one wants to read shit you have to say, prairie nigger. You all almost extinct anyhow. Y’all the biggest child rapists in this country as well.

          • Shawneh D Swan

            I tell you what you racist prick. I give you my address and you can come say that shit to my face and see just how much of a savage I can be. I am dead serious btw. Something tells me you are a coward as well as a worthless racist.

          • John J Rouse

            What’s your address? You’re not even a race you nitwit. I hope you are, love to get my frustrations out on you

          • Shawneh D Swan

            No response? I knew you were an inferior coward.

          • John J Rouse

            I responded you prairie nigger child rapist

          • John J Rouse

            What is your address

          • John J Rouse

            Dumb ass blacks didn’t know how to build ships.

          • Kimberly Larkin Hotaling

            My mother called us heathens when we did not behave. Feral is also used to describe children that are raised in the wild or without any kind of proper guidance. I guess I should have stuck with trash. Trash is trash and does not have anything to do with color.

          • spankee

            exactly its amazing how easily people get offended, they are all so full of hate for this country yet expect to be treated well……

          • spankee

            BS. You took her comments to heart thats your problem not hers she wasnt talking about you

          • spankee

            amen

          • qthush

            A white supremacy dude killed mlk, back in the 60’s when everyone was going through the same shit, but who was it that found and prosecuted the murderer, cops white cops. Those that felt the need for law and order. Now I am all for protests, I am all for legal peaceful protest. The minute it becomes violent then I am all for shutting it down if that means violently well then that’s it.

          • RayScott

            So why continue to talk down on minorities knowing your deep, dark history?

          • tricia

            It is not our history. Just like the black people who sold other black people into slavery or who still support slavery in Africa to this day are not your history. 1% of all white people owned slaves at the height of slavery. The majority of white people don’t have a single ancestor who was involved because the majority of us descended from immigrants that came here after slavery or what few immigrants that were here before were too poor to own slaves. It is actually far more likely that the average black person you meet is the descendant of a slave owner because of rape of black slaves. That does not define you any more than the color of my skin defines me. This country is like every other on the planet, it has treated groups badly. It treated Irish immigrants badly, it treated Italian immigrants badly, it treated Asian immigrants badly, it treated Native people badly, every single group has treated each other badly. We cannot keep living in the past. We cannot let what happened to people we never met make us hate people who were not involved.

          • BUD12

            Actually, it’s what “you whites” do, by your own definition. Racist….

          • RayScott

            Says the moron who up-votes his own comments. LOL What’s the matter. Don’t have friends?

          • BUD12

            Is this the best you’ve got, racist?

          • RayScott

            Why would I give you something better, bitch.

          • BUD12

            You’re right: You don’t have to be better than you are because you don’t have to be, racist.

          • Memphomaniac

            “you whites…” Sad, misguided, proponent of victimhood.

          • RayScott

            White folks haven’t made me a victim since I came to this earth. It’s whites who cry victim.

          • Taylor Martin

            how are we crying victim? The victims are the ones who owned businesses that got looted and burned, the ones driving on I85 last night.

          • RayScott

            Does the term white genocide sounds familiar to you? Whites are ALWAYS the victims.

          • Harvey CathynDee James

            the fbi? or cia?

          • Rena Van Slyke

            Hmmmmm Ray do you actually know who started slavery? Do you know the facts? SMDH

          • RayScott

            Which party does the KKK support in 2016?

          • Rena Van Slyke

            depends on the state…..NC IS for Hillary and some are for Trump….and?

          • RayScott

            “And” that don’t mean shit. KKK doesn’t claim the democratic party anymore.

          • Rena Van Slyke

            ankkkk WRONG……now do you know who actually sold the first slave? No dodging just the answer…we get enough dodging from killary…

          • RayScott

            Doesn’t matter at this point. Whites were never denied human rights.

          • Rena Van Slyke

            Oh really? And how do you know that? You still havent answered my question? And by the way stop repeating killary because it does matter I have enough sense in my head to know better than to point a gun at cops!!

          • RayScott

            No one “pointed a gun at cops” I know because of history.

          • Rena Van Slyke

            oh that’s right he had the gun in his hand NOT A BOOK…..so if you know history then answer my question? With all your dodging you should have already looked it up. Lemme give you a hint, since you need a little help…..he was a black man!!

          • RayScott

            One black cop killed a black man. Who killed Terrence Crutcher. (And In case you’re wondering, the window was ROLLED UP)

          • Rena Van Slyke

            STILL DODGING DARLIN…….HE WAS OUT OF HIS CAR and seeing how you nor I Were there i tend to side with the officials until there is an intelligent video and not some getto talking crazy person with filthy language….AFTER THE FACT
            …AGAIN who sold the 1st slave? I’m still waiting.

          • RayScott

            I don’t have to answer that bullshit question. What is the topic of this story. You’re talking about slaves.

          • Sad to inform you Ray but yes they have been. . . long before “white” was a race.
            Irish / Celtic slavery was rampant in the US before & during the advent of African slavery.
            It was also more wide spread because the Irish were cheaper.

          • RayScott

            What were the state of the Irish compared to blacks during 1920-1964?

          • So because those of Irish / Celtic stock managed to turn things around that negates the horror of their slavery Ray?

          • RayScott

            So because the Irish were slaves that negates the horror blacks had to face from 1791-1964?

          • No, not in the least Ray. . . However humans have been inhumane to others humans since there was a difference between tribes.
            Humans have also taken others as slaves since that time & still do.
            Doesn’t make it right, doesn’t make it just.
            It also doesn’t make a single person alive in this country guilty of the sins of other Americans from 150 years ago.

          • When it comes down to it Ray holding me or any other American guilty of the offense of slavery is about as logical, as just, as right, as me holding you guilty of the offenses committed against Native American tribes by the Buffalo Soldiers.
            You didn’t do it, I didn’t suffer it. . . . so why should it matter?

          • RayScott

            I don’t know. You’re the one talking about it.

          • John J Rouse

            Remember who commits the majority,of the violent crimes in this country. Remember who killed MalCUM Excrement.

          • RayScott

            I don’t got to remember shit. Remember who bombed a church full of innocent black children. Remember who lynched blacks for even LOOKING at you racist whites.

          • Donald Stanfill

            Lol…who’s the racist? Get the facts straight before you ‘blacks’ pull the race card.

          • RayScott

            You still are. It looks like you pulling the race card right now without any facts.

          • Donald Stanfill

            Im making a point. See it for what its worth. But you cant.

          • RayScott

            I can’t because it’s WORTH NOTHING.

          • Donald Stanfill

            As well as your feelings.

          • RayScott

            You’re the only one in your feelings.

          • Donald Stanfill

            Well, honestly, i could care less. Its not like whites are acting like idiots rioting, looting trucks and burning shit because a black cop killed another innocent black man. Enjoy.

          • RayScott

            Actually whites riot all the time. Just not under the circumstances blacks do. Like Sports victories and pumpkins.

          • Donald Stanfill

            This is about the Keith Scott shooting. Stay with the topic.

          • RayScott

            You just said whites don’t riot. Which is a boldface lie. YOU stay on topic.

          • Donald Stanfill

            Yeah, whites are rioting because of scott. The article on which this feed started. Moron.

          • RayScott

            Don’t say whites NEVER riot. That’s a lie, moron.

          • Donald Stanfill

            Blah blah blah.

          • RayScott

            What an intelligent response. SMH

          • Donald Stanfill

            Yeah, when im dealing with idiots. Kinda fits.

          • RayScott

            You must be giving yourself a hard time, then.

        • Mario Pi Velez

          Yet you agree with the fact that John did call them ( per your provided definition) wild animals. That is no way of improving race relationships, which is John’s critique of the blacks protesting. I forgot, you did call them trash.

          • Kimberly Larkin Hotaling

            Trash is trash – it does not matter the color. You do not have to be a certain color to be a trashy person. Trash comes in all shapes, sizes, etc. A person’s behavior determines if they are trash.

      • Phil me Cracken

        Because he can, and why the hell do you think he even cares about race relations? They are feral rats burning and looting. Fuck em

      • ldonnan

        What would you call a pack of wild animals?? Feral. Did they not come in packs? Did they not steal, loot, set fires and howl?? They are the ones that have destroyed “Race relations” in this country. And it is stupid people like you that help to keep it alive. Being politically correct. If people of color don’t like the hurtful words, then they need to change their actions. Yes, I said “color” because there is more than just black in this world.

        • RayScott

          If they “destroyed race relations” what are you doing to make it better? Stop trying to act as if you’re “holier than thou”.

          • ldonnan

            Let’s turn that question: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE.???

          • RayScott

            It’s the whites who don’t want to hold hands. I don’t have this problem with my fellow African Americans. You guys don’t want to do the work that’s needed to improve so you deflect. Hence, your “flip” of my very question to you.

          • libwithIQ

            So do you approve of these gangs of “protestors” who show up at every unfortunate shooting and immediately blame the police when all evidence so far points to the person who was shot? Why do they use these events as an excuse to loot, destroy and injure innocent people? Have you asked these same questions of your fellow protestors? If you don’t have a problem with this behavior, then you are more of the problem than the solution.

          • RayScott

            I DO have a problem with senseless riots. But most (90%) of the protesters who are there do not support this behavior, it’s the TROUBLE MAKERS who try to exploit the situation. Second, nobody’s “blaming the police” it’s just that you shouldn’t go on JUST what the officers say. They said Terrence Crutcher “reached into his vechicle” yet the window was rolled all the way UP! They said Laquan McDonald “lunged at an officer with a knife” yet the video showed him walk towards the SIDEWALK. On top of that, the pigs went into the nearby Burger King and deleted over an HOUR of crucial footage. Why?

          • libwithIQ

            Calling the police “pigs” instantly discredits anything else you have to say. Shows prejudice on your part. Not constructive.

          • RayScott

            Answer the question. What do they have to hide? Why delete the footage? You should care less about what I call them and be concerned about corruption (tampering with evidence).

          • libwithIQ

            IF it can be proved they tampered then hell yes. Charge them and try them. But stop with all the stories that continue to be disproved after a thorough investigation. And stop with blaming all this on “white” police. Facts are that more black men are killed by black cops than white cops.

          • RayScott

            It already was proven that they did that. Nobody blamed “white” cops but we ARE blaming corruption within the police force, and yes, it just so happens the police involved in these situations are WHITE.

          • Memphomaniac

            …better check your facts, Jack. Charlotte…last night. Police Officer shooting situation. Officer was Black. Shot a black suspect. Get over your pity party. Put down the Pipe. Pull up your pants. Pick up a shovel…and go to work.

          • RayScott

            You sound very angry. Maybe you should put down your’s.

          • ldonnan

            You avoided the question. Not looking good for your rebuttal. Because you have no definitive answer.

          • RayScott

            I don’t have a definitive answer because I don’t know if you would rather see me die or hold my hand. Soooo…..

          • Kimberly Larkin Hotaling

            I don’t want to see you die. How horrible of you to say that. What is your answer?

          • Memphomaniac

            I don’t wanna hold your hand, but…can you hold this shovel and do you know how to operate it? To change YOUR neighborhood..first clean up your own yard.

          • RayScott

            I would never hold your dirty hands either. I’ll buy my own shovel, piece of shit. Fix white-on-white crime before you talk about blacks. This is why your population is sinking, but keep using blacks as your scapegoat.

      • Dee

        This is a waste of time. These people are a bunch of racist idiots. They use blogs like this to reveal themselves.

      • Gene Splicer

        Did that comment cut too deeply? Feral: having reverted to the wild state, as from domestication.

        Sound very accurate.

    • Mario Pi Velez

      Because the unnecessary killing of blacks by the police does not effect race relationships. In addition, the words you use to describe them do not help either.

  • DJV

    Neither the animals or main stream media care about facts. The animals use any excuse to riot, loot, burn, etc. I’m very sad police officers were wounded. Praying for them and their families.

    • libwithIQ

      It really appears that BLM really means Blacks Looting Markets.

      • Dee

        You’re sick!

        • Truth Seeker

          But . . . is libwithiq wrong? What exactly has BLM done for Black lives, other than loot loot loot, burn and destroy? Ya might want to explain why you think he or she is sick.

          • Blythe Dolores

            Because far too many white people act as if these deaths don’t matter. That they deserved the death penalty because a cop made a mistake. That somehow the police accepting accountability for these INCREASING mistakes and subsequent deaths is unnecessary because they are police and well, black people don’t actually matter all that much. The Black Lives Matter movement has worked because millions of white people are waking up, like ME, and not hiding behind my privilege and comfort. You call your self Truth Seeker so why believe what Fox News is reporting?

          • Except that the cop didn’t make a mistake!

          • Jack Hopkins

            The only mistake made in the Keith Scott shooting was that Mr. Scott should have left his gun in the car.

          • JustSayin

            Or, if Keith Scott COMPLIED with and FOLLOWED each and every instruction given by the police officers….say the FIRST command given, he’d probably still be alive today. How hard is it to stop what you’re doing and follow the instructions of the cop, word for word? Most of the time it’s simply “don’t move”, “keep your hands where I can see them” or a combination of the two! Problem is many “criminals” don’t like ANYONE telling them what to do, especially a cop. So, they challenge their authority and take that risk, the “I’m gonna do what the F@*# I wanna do” and they end up dead! It’s not racism, it’s impoverished, broken families usually with no father, surrounded by crime in their neighborhood everyday and little to no parental guidance in going to school, not doing drugs, etc. There ARE black men who’ve grown up in the hood who HAVE “made it” by sheer will and a strong support system! And that is NOT a problem caused by “racist cops”!!

          • dplogger

            BLM does not give two craps about blacks, they care about anarchy. Most blacks don’t realize they’ve been taken for a ride by the Democratic Party for the last 50 years. Wake up.

          • Debbie Trame

            BLM is funded and pushed by George Soros. He wants NWO and has Obama and Hillary on his payroll. He has helped fund their campaigns. He wants nothing more than to help keep Obama in office and the only way to do that is cause so much unrest in this country… That Obama declares marital law. Other leaders warned us not to get involved with him. But money ment more than the us citizens did to our government. Russia has a warrant out for his arrest.
            Soros played every BLM supporter for a fool. Just like Colin Kaepernick girlfriend has been doing to him. Bet anything she was the one pushing for him to sit in the first place.

          • Teresa Stone

            This post is nothing but a damn idiot running off at the mouth about some crazy conspiracy

          • SabresLoyalist

            Much of it yes, but Soros has been responsible for a lot of unrest by funding professional protesters. Educate yourself on him, he’s no good!

          • John J Rouse

            I don’t care about black people.
            In light of both recent events and long-simmering racial issues in this country, I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s time for me to state my sincere and forthright position on race relations, specifically those involving the black population. So here it is: I don’t care about black people.

            In our age of Totalism, this needs some clarification. Totalism means that there is no middle–one must either love something with all of one’s heart and be willing to work tirelessly for its benefit, or (clearly) one must hate it and wish to see it destroyed with maximum force. By no means can there be any in-between. This paradigm is a tool of control–one common in history, but particularly loved by Puritans, which means that it is now primarily in the hands of the puritanical left. Few want to be seen as so heartless or vicious as to hate something–or, commonly, some group of people–enough to wish destruction upon it. And so, accepting the Totalist frame, most people feel compelled to insist that they do love it, and would bear any burden for its betterment. They dare not take the risk of being painted as a villain (which these days usually means someone who doesn’t believe in the sacred dogma of equality). But there are some of us who know better, and who reject the frame given us. And that is what I mean to do here.

            I don’t care about black people, which means by definition that I don’t hate them. In order to hate something or someone, you must care about them deeply. Hate is a serious, long-term emotional investment, and one must actually care very much about the object of one’s hatred in order to make it. As is often said, hate is not the opposite of love; indifference is. And I have come to be very indifferent about the fortunes of blacks.

            I don’t care about black people. Their problems are not my problem. Their enemies are not my enemy. Their concerns are not my concern. I feel no need to understand them or their ways, and I don’t care whether or not they understand me or my ways. I wish them well–in fact, I know not a single white person, no matter how outwardly racist, who does not wish that blacks were doing better than they are, if for no other reason than that we must all live with the effects of their failures. I hope that the issues that seem to ceaselessly dog their community all get solved somehow. I have no desire to do them and theirs injury, except as punishment for injury done by them against me and mine. But I don’t care about them–there is nothing more I want from them other than to simply leave me alone, and in exchange, I will gladly leave them alone as well.

          • koolclay

            I think your post deserves a response. I don’t disagree with you but there is a middle ground I think you should consider.
            America is unique in that we have a tradition of free association. You get to choose your friends based on a criteria unique to you.
            Taking a position such as you have creates an artificial barrier to your right to free association.
            You don’t seem to me one who bases their decision on whom to associate with on something as superficial as skin color. But it seems that current events have pushed you to make a choice.
            That choice, in my humble opinion, should be to continue to associate as you choose.
            Hopefully you are like me. I choose to associate with people i think are ‘cool’. Cool comes in all colors, religions, ideologies, etc… Hell, you may even be cool. If we were to actually meet i would hope that we could be friends on that basis alone.

          • Thank you, koolclay. That was a very cool post. 🙂

          • Todd Modderman

            If you “woke up” because of BLM, you need to be put to sleep. The simple fact is, in all of these incidents, if the subject would of just followed the officer’s orders, they’d be alive today.

          • mastamilli

            I wholeheartedly disagree. Philandro Castle, Eric Garner and Alton Sterling had videos. I don’t think any of those were cases where the men deserved to be killed. In the case of Philandro, where the video was going after the event, it was obvious what happened. The officer made a horrible mistake. Black Lives Matter is a protest group that’s trying to tell America that there’s a very pronounced system of fear with people like me. I’ve been SUPER nice to officers and experienced some very scary stuff. It’s happened to me since I was a kid.

          • Jim Tuggle

            Black Lives Matter is a criminal organization who are bound and determined to cause as much damage …. funny however that the mostly manage to snatch and grab rob or set fire to businesses and homes in the predominately black areas.

          • mastamilli

            I don’t think those people snatching and grabbing are a part of BLM. I’m pretty sure they aren’t. However, there is racist media out there that will associate these acts with the organization so people will denounce it. The original intent for Black Lives Matter was for people to understand there are injustices happening to black people. I heard a gentleman say online a little while back that when people say All Lives Matter it’s the equivalent of going into a lung cancer benefit and saying breast cancer matters! When you think of the REAL Black Lives Matter movement, understand it’s an awareness initiative. It means, Black Lives Matter too. It means stop looking at an entire race as a threat. Be aware of news sources slapping BLM on everything negative. Nine times out of 10, it has nothing to do with the organization.

          • Foo Schnickens

            Once BLM got violent everybody stopped listening or caring about it.It is nothing more than a nuisance anymore with no purpose………………

          • James Moore

            Ok. Let’s assume you are being truthful about learning from both sides.

            Do you realize black lives matter is a false narrative through and through?

            The “hands up don’t shoot” was a flat out lie.

            Cops do not freely kill black people. They kill twice as many white people than blacks even though black people commit a vast majority of the crimes. Also black, Hispanic and other non-white cops are more likely to pull the trigger. These are DoJ statistics. Numbers.

            The leaders of BLM do not condemn violent protest so it’s safe to say they support them. One of the key mouthpieces in fact blamed the NC police STILL for the “protests” even though the perp in fact had a gun. The daughter and his brother flat out LIED. And this isn’t the first shooting involving a black male that this has happened.

          • pcn65

            If what you are saying was true we would see and hear the BLM leaders coming out and publicly and forcefully condemning the actions of the law breakers. But, in the history of the BLM movement, that just hasn’t happened. And they’ve had plenty of time to correct the issue. If it walks like a duck…

          • Rob Keaton

            No one looks at you as a threat, however the Black Lies Matter movement like you call it, is a virus

          • Sam197859

            All groups started out with good intentions but end up being a thorn in the side of people they claim to represent. They in up victimizing their own group.

          • Hollywoodskeptic

            The Ku Klux Klan has been operating since the 1800’s, America has never had a problem with it.

          • sheryl brantley

            The KKK are DEMOCRATS…BLACKS overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.
            I doubt the KKKhas a 1,000 members nationwide.
            Hillarys Clintons mentor was a Grand Dragon of the KKK.
            So, it seems to me the black community needs to be asking more of the people they vote for.
            Conservatives certainly don’t endorse the KKK.

          • Teresa Stone

            That’s bull hockey

          • Rob Keaton

            no read a book, it’s the truth,..truth hurts doesn’t it

          • SabresLoyalist

            You actually believe that America has never had a problem with the KKK?

          • Rob Keaton

            Not in the least bit was referenced

          • Teresa Stone

            You read a book you uneducated moron!

          • Rob Keaton

            Lol…when the names start coming you have lost debate

          • Michael Burch

            There has always been a problem with that KKK…it has always been a hatefull organization..

          • That’s a lie. Americans of all heritages have fiercely condemned the KKK.

          • SabresLoyalist

            What a load of BS! Do you have to lie to yourself to feel better or are you really that pathetic?

          • Nick Sousa

            mastamilli Then you need to watch the Alton Sterling video again. You can see clear as day that his right arm was never held down by the officer and he continually reached into his pocket for the gun. The gun was even mostly out of his pocket already when the cop removed it. Play a stupid game, win a stupid prize. There is no video of the shooting of Castille but one thing we do know for certain is that his girlfriend was bald faced lying on her live stream. They were NOT pulled over for a broken tail light. That was just misdirection. It was clear from the beginning that she was putting on an act.
            The Garner incident WAS a case of excessive force but it’s hard to say that when a 350lb guy is struggling and fighting against you you would be calm and totally clear headed. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. The incident was unfortunate but it was completely unavoidable had he complied with the police in the first place. I’ve been wrongfully detained and questioned. I deal with it and wait for shit to sort itself out. Mouthing off and fighting with police is only putting yourself at risk. BTW more than twice as many white males are killed every year in the US so this IS NOT A RACE ISSUE.

          • mastamilli

            Sir, it is most definitely a race issue when a person is threatened by another person because of the color of their skin. These preconceived notions are something I’ve had to deal with as far back as elementary school when teachers would tell me I needed to talk a certain way and I was intimidating to other students. Or, when I had officers talk to me as if I was a criminal even though I run a company. I’m not saying all officers are bad at all, but you can tell when someone is threatened by you. I’ve watched the Alton Sterling video multiple times and I’ve watched both angles. However, I’m not going to argue that point. It’s a very, very sad video. I will say this, there’s proof that men that look like me are treated a lot differently in the world. The thing to remember throughout all of this is you’re going to identify and defend the party you relate to. I’m trying to see the other side and that’s part of the reason why I’m on this site. Unfortunately, this is a site where people like me are referred to as animals. Honestly, for some of these, I think there may have, in fact, been some kind of imminent threat. However, this goes back to my point, you will identify/defend the party you relate to. If you see someone who you’ve seen on tv all your life as a threat, you’re going to automatically think that.

          • Nick Sousa

            I think you’re either trying to push the false narrative yourself or you are buying into it just the way the media is trying to spin it. I grew up poor and have lived in predominantly black neighborhoods. Police there treated me just as bad as anyone else. It is not about color it’s about class and appearances. The racial divide is disinformation. The real divide is economic and has nothing to do with race at all. I’m not saying that racism doesn’t exist at all but trying to push it as the sole motivation for police shootings is either willful ignorance or being intentionally disingenuous. I am in no way supporting the police. I have a deep seeded distrust for police based on my own personal experiences. Because of this I make it a point to truly examine all of these cases regardless of the color of the parties involved. In doing that I’ve come to realize that the most frequent common factors are not race but behavior and social standing.

          • mastamilli

            Of course they did. The problem is if you went to an affluent community, you wouldn’t receive the same treatment a person like me would. There is most certainly a racial divide. However, to your point, there is an economic divide as well. I think many poor people are being manipulated by very wealthy people as a way to gain influence. I agree with you on that point. I believe race is a piece of this that you can’t ignore. I agree with you in regards to the socio-economic pieces here. It’s a combination of both. There’s evidence of this.

          • Rob Keaton

            no one is keeping people down, enough of the white privilege and the false narrative of oppression..

          • spankee

            a black cop shot him tell us again how race is the issue? They werent even there for him, he basically killed himself by cop….

          • sophia

            Agreed there is a class divided but you get more of the benefit of the doubt if you are white an poor than black and poor and the statistic on unarmed killing bear that out. no point arguing about it. Anyway it is not a competition. Black lives matter is not saying no other lives matter it is saying your country has a long tradition of demonstrating in various ways that they don’t matter. Poor white lives don’t matter too much either but the poor whites like you are the buffer that the elite whites need in order to continue to enjoy their privilege while giving people like you the illusion that you have a share in some of it.

          • SabresLoyalist

            , statistics do not bear that out. Learn how to interpret statistical data!

          • Jean Daniel

            No its only about class and appearance if you are white, if you are Black it’s about skin color. White police in my town harassed my then 17 yrs old son because he drove a red Acura. One white officer asked my son how he could afford an acura, when he, the white officer couldn’t afford one. I sold the car so the harassment would stopped, but of course it didn’t. Thank God my Black son is still alive at 46, but as a 72 years old mother, I still worry about him and my grandchildren when they are away from home, always worried if they are safe

          • Thank you for pointing that out, Nick. I agree.

          • Foo Schnickens

            Actually I will only defend what I see.Some make up things or purposely misconstrue things so it will fit their agenda

          • Richard Arlan Carter III

            So by this reasoning most of the BLM members are racists? Because most of them threaten whites for the color of our skin.

          • sophia

            MOST of them haven’t actually threatened any individual…

          • SabresLoyalist

            Sophia, you know most of them?.

          • Hollywoodskeptic

            Mind REAL murders get offered to go to Burger King.

          • Teresa Stone

            He didn’t resist arrest either! Thats the difference!

          • Sam197859

            and your point is, what?

          • sheryl brantley

            Perhaps you have a chip on your shoulder ,then?
            Maybe you should videotape yourself and look at your mannerisms.

          • mastamilli

            My mannerisms? So, this is what I’m talking about. There are cultural norms in my community that probably don’t agree with yours. I don’t think that’s anything threatening. And yes, I have a chip on my shoulder because there are things that have happened to me and things I’ve seen on tv that are just not fair. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here…?

          • SabresLoyalist

            Life isn’t fair! Things happen to everyone! You speak of cultural norms, take the time to study statistical data in your “community.” As a taxpayer there are a multitude of things I’d like to see my taxes spent on and an inordinate amount is spent on policing, prosecuting, jailing, probation, job training, community programs, welfare programs, special outreach programs, etc. that target an extraordinarily small percentage of the population. I grew up in a tiny little town. The government never showed up worried about finding something for us to do so we wouldn’t turn to crime. It would have been wonderful to have after school programs or jobs programs, hell any program! But they never did! I guess we didn’t commit enough crimes to garner any attention. Lots of people have chips!

          • Aicila Dawn

            You, sir, are exactly what this country needs. I sense, from your postings, you feel the same as I do. I keep wishing I had the magic solution to all of this!

            I’m white. I can’t think about Tamir Rice, John Crawford, Eric Garner, and many others without it eating at my heart. I’ve watched videos, repeatedly, for hours and I’ve had discussions with other people, both black AND white. Both sides seem determined to believe what they believe, and they reach for whatever excuse they can find that usually has nothing to do with the incident being discussed. Like, Tamir Rice, for example. How can any sane and rational person watch that video and live peacefully with themselves calling it “justified”?! He was 12 years old! He had the bb gun behind him in the waistband of his pants and was ordered to drop the weapon. When he reached for it to do what he was told, they shot him dead. Those cops weren’t even out of their car for a minute and barked those orders as they were rushing up on him!

            Ugh. There’s so much that needs to be said, so much that needs to be done. I wanna go back in time and save them! I wanna be heard for what’s in my heart and not what’s covering my skeleton! We ALL want that, right?!

            Thank you for your post. You don’t seem to hate white people, but perhaps you’re just as disgusted as I am toward those that could hate someone like you because you’re not white. It saddens me to know there will be some that are going to assume the worst of me because I AM white. If there had been somewhere during development in utero I was supposed to make a choice and I hadn’t missed it, I would not have chosen white. ????

          • SabresLoyalist

            If you watched the video, why don’t you know that the gun was by his belly button? And the cops told him to put his hands up, not drop the weapon. He was shot because he reached for the weapon. He may have been 12 but he thought it would be a cute idea to spend his day, sitting in the park, using a gun to intimidate people and watch their fearful reaction. The education he needed to know better should have started at home.

          • mastamilli

            Thank you.

          • Rob Keaton

            Negative, damn it feels good to be a victim..stop resisting arrest, stop looting and tearing up neighborhoods and your own community..funny how the late great MLK Jr. never played the victim, he never blamed white privilege, he never looted..and yet the man changed the world.. Welcome to post 15, 16 the America Obama has destroyed

          • Jean Daniel

            White people are on this post not because they want to understand, white people, the majority comment because it gives them an opportunity to say all the negative things about Black people without having to say it to their. Their comments are no more than ego trip. If they understand after 400 years, it’s because they choose not to.

          • spankee

            some black people create the negativity by pulling guns on cops….. they werent even there for him, he must have had a warrant or something out for him to suddenly feel the need to attack cops…… Sorry the cop that shot him was black so no racism here

          • SabresLoyalist

            Slavery ended before your life began. You can’t live in a past that you don’t know. Want to meet for coffee? I’m honest in person too. You are a bigot. But if you need to be told to your face.

          • SabresLoyalist

            I agree with you to a point. But if you study the issue and the statistics, you will find out that the media is spinning a false narrative. Police have reason to be on guard when dealing with certain segments of our population, higher rates of violent crime and a higher number of police deaths when dealing with that segment of the population, means anyone who has common sense would be. At the end of the day they just want to go home like everyone else.

          • sophia

            I will remember to stay calm next time I am in a choke hold…

          • Sam197859

            you would not be in a choke hold if you did not resist. that is how it works.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Would he have been in a choke hold if he wasn’t resisting arrest?

          • copsondonuts .

            oh bs….stop acting as if you live in a nightmare-world filled with racist cops who want to kill you. turn off the TV already you drama queen….

          • mastamilli

            My friend, I didn’t say that. However, racism exists.

          • Debbie Trame

            No in Castile case he was to damn high to remember he had a gun in his lap and when officer ask for I’d . As he reached for his wallet in from pocket the officer saw the gun . Castile told the officer AFTER he was already reach for his wallet that he had a ccw. He didn’t stop moving when officer told him to.
            As far as the girlfriend goes, I wouldn’t believe a damn thing that came out of here month after seeing some of her fb videos that have surfaced.

          • mastamilli

            One of the problems here is you’re discrediting everyone involved in the entire situation. This is like discrediting a stripper who is a rape victim. Come on…

          • sheryl brantley

            So, because of a few bad apples, every black that tries to kill a cop now, or disregatds instructions and acts in a threatening manner to the cop, iif the cops shoots in defense, is going to trigger a riot?
            Then, white people had better start rioting in black communities, because black people kill a lot of unarmed white people for no reason every day.

          • mastamilli

            Nope. I have no excuse for the riots that are happening. I agree it’s wrong.

            It’s also disheartening for you to refer to a black person as “a black.” I understand what you’re trying to say, but I want to caution you against saying things like that. It’s offensive.

          • Sam197859

            I am black and have no problem with that term. Most, black people, like to be called a, black american.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Proper grammar is offensive? “And black” is singular. Her grammar denotes that it would be a singular act and the blame would lie on one person, not an entire community. A great lesson. The acts of a person are not the acts of the community!

          • Rob Keaton

            Black Lies Matter are a bunch of cowards plain and simple with a misguided message..Sterling shooting, honest mistake? Felon with a gun..honest? Michael Brown an honest mistake? This pos in NC , an honest mistake? Let’s face the facts, a black life aint worth a damn unless it is taken by a white cop or white person..if you want to get in with honesty, Black LIES Matter hasn’t said shit about Chicago and 3500+ shootings, BLM hasn’t said shit about the extermination within the black family caused by #1 perpetrator Planned Parenthood, no all that gets a pass. No BLM wants to honor and pay homage to known felons and paint halos to the very people in your community that don’t give 2 fks about anyone.

          • Jean Daniel

            Cops are not killing Black and Brown people by mistake, they are carrying out orders

          • John Highcroft

            Jean – You certainly have a lot to say but it appears it’s just stuff you made up or are repeating from someone else. Nothing can be verified. I read these posts to try to learn but it is abundantly clear there is a lot of false information being presented. I’m sure there are many black individuals who have been stopped without cause. However, it also seems that if we totaled up everyone who believes that has happened to them, the number would be greater than all the law enforcement in the US. I see 10 year olds comment that they’ve been picked up by police and harassed all their lives. Where does that come from?
            Jean – Based on your comments I really believe you are the racist and everything you say generates hate and distrust. You’re old and maybe have had problems in your younger days but you need to stop being an agitator and take what you’ve learned and help improve things for younger generations.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Democrats are ordering cops to kill people of color?

          • Jonathan Miller

            Ditto, Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, Keith Scott.

          • Sam Price

            Trayvon Martin was not killed by a police officer.
            He was killed by a racist with a superiority complex.
            Try again.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Duh, dumbass mfer, I think he was killed by someone whose chest he was sitting on…banging the person’s head into a rock… Just another worthless thug thinking he was bad, instead of dead…

          • Jonathan Miller

            He disregarded instructions from a person with a gun while threatening that person’s life. How’d that work out? Pretty much, identical, RIGHT?

          • Teresa Stone

            Well, I certainly don’t listen to random people threatening m life, especially, when is he is not a cop and told to leave Trayvon Martin along. Seriously, Zimmerman created the situation!

          • Michael Burch

            Maybe Zimmerman did..but the record shows Zimmerman walking back to his car..when Martin jumped him from behind..and proceeded to beat the Crap out of Zimmerman..

          • Jean Daniel

            So says the white man, who the Black and Brown people know by now is a pathological liar.You can’t believe nothing the white man says, just ask the Native Americans.

          • spankee

            cant believe anything anyone says these days, not just white people………. Look at Obama perfect example. LIES LIES LIES

          • littleonedee

            Jean I am Native American and white and I was taught to respect to honor and to obey the law.

          • T. King-Balkcum

            Exactly!

          • Shawneh D Swan

            The police and heads of state don’t obey and honor the law. …..so why should Anone else? I am also native btw and I don’t trust americans period, no matter their race

          • Mack

            All of you are pathetic with your “i’m this or that” . Native to what? Ever hear of Kenewick man? Europeans that pre-dated you Natives by 1000’s of years that were killed off by “Natives” in order to take their land. Hateful ass people.

          • The_REAL_grumpy_Dave

            “You see the one thing I’ve always maintained is that I’m an American Indian. I’m not a Native American. I’m not politically correct. Everyone who’s born in the Western Hemisphere is a Native American. We are all Native Americans. And if you notice, I put “American” before my ethnicity. I’m not a hyphenated African-American or Irish-American or Jewish-American or Mexican-American.”
            Russel means, Dakota -Lakota people

          • cardnut

            So go to Canada. Or wherever.

          • B. P. G.

            Did your ancestors feel the same way when they made laws to slaughter them and cast them out of their own homes?? I didn’t think so.

          • ThaHud

            And look where that got your people.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Me, too. Native Americans know that seeking an eye for an eye in vengeance leaves everybody blind…

          • Don

            OK, ask them first who is feeding an housing them. Remember – they lost and only exist due to thw white man.

          • SabresLoyalist

            For you knew anything about the exploration of the world, you would know that the Indians made out better than most conquered people. The Indians weren’t the original Americans. You don’t hear anything about the people that they extinguished. Most conflicts ended with all men and pubescent boys being killed, making the women and children dependant for survival, and thus assimilating to the new people’s ways and traditions. The fact that all of the Indians were not killed, and that treatise were signed, says a lot about the people who settled the country. Read a book!

          • Will Perry

            Hasty generalization

          • implorable Randell

            SO YOU OBVIOUSLY BELIEVE THIS STUPID NIGGER BITCH

          • don

            The record also shows the 911 operator telling zimmerman not to follow trayvon

          • torr10

            what part of ‘walking away’ don’t you understand?

          • Susan Butler

            The same way “walking away” is not understood by police officers and portrayed as an imminent threat. thereby making it justifiable to shoot a man in the back.

          • SabresLoyalist

            When an officer gives you a directive, walking away is not the right course of action.

          • UNCMoose187

            Nor is murdering someone like you are judge and jury in the streets for an offense that is no worse than a misdemeanor or a fine. Honestly, some of you clowns are so pathetically and shamelessly hypocritical that you make things worse for the good officers that are out there.

          • Jonathan Miller

            If Scott hadn’t broken the law, he wouldn’t have been molested if he hadn’t had a gun he would be alive… Stupid is as stupid does… Do you smoke pot and wave guns around the polices’ face? Then you are beyond despicable, you are stupid and ignorant…

          • Jonathan Miller

            When you are being placed under arrest, it is a little late for that.

          • UNCMoose187

            Considering it’s irrelevant, who cares. Also, I’d love to see the evidence that shows that Zimmerman was walking back to his car when there was no eyewitness evidence to support that other than his own claim. Based on what we know now, it’s quite obvious that he was full of shit similar to the cop in Mike Brown case although Brown obviously had it coming to him whereas Trayvon Martin was unequivocally innocent.

          • Teresa Stone

            He did not walk away idiot!

          • Don

            911 has no right or authorization to command anything.

          • A 911 operator has ZERO authority, your point is moot.

          • Karen Bayer

            Unless the 911 recording shows up in court. In Trayvon’s case it should have proved liability but unfortunately the jury didn’t see it that way. And guess what — had the fat-face-cop-wannabe-freak left that kid alone, he’d still be alive today. He was steps from his door. Zimmerman was rejected by the police academy — because they knew he was demented. Don’t believe me. Believe the cops.

          • David Keith

            You are wrong. . The best liberal lawyers in the country predicted that Zimmerman wouldn’t be convicted. It wasn’t the jury. It was the burden of proof wasn’t met.

          • UNCMoose187

            There was enough evidence to convict him of different charges but they did not go that route. In the end, we all know what happened, that Trayvon Martin was murdered and the shooter walked away innocent and has now found himself and countless different legal scenarios due to his own ignorance and poor temper. Great, Zimmerman had a wonderful lawyer, but that doesn’t dismiss the fact that he murdered a young man in cold blood who was clearly trying to defend himself from a stalker he did not know.

          • Jonathan Miller

            If you are a teacher, it must be P. E., you lack basic writing skills and you never had a logic course either. The women on the Jury had better sense. It was shown that Trayvons ducked in the bushes and hid like criminals do, in order to lay an ambush for more than three minutes. Since he was only about two hundred feet from where he was staying … he chose to attack rather than shelter and call the cops himself…

          • UNCMoose187

            Lol..just sad, sad to see you flounder among the facts.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Flounder among the facts? You are fishing for a clue, you idiot…

            Is Zimmerman free? He got off because a black racist prosecutor overcharged him in order to incite civil disobedience as a political pawn. Obama and The other professional racebaiters were mad when he was a Hispanic, but hey, we can always call him a “white” hispanic…

            Democrats are stupid on a whole new level…they throw their own under the bus..and try and blame somebody totally unaffiliated..

          • UNCMoose187

            Lol, I guess Trayvon did not have the right to stand his ground while he was being stalked by a fucking creep who the cops told to stand down. I would hope that my son would do the same thing, to stand his ground and protect himself if he was being followed by some vigilante lunatic who will commit Lee got what he was asking 4. There’s no arguing that Zimmerman instigated and started the fight, and Trayvon certainly fought back as was his legal right, however, Zimmerman completely lied about his injuries and ultimately he got off because of loopholes and a good lawyer, not because he was right. Honestly, I bet you think Tamir rice is guilty too, LOL

          • Trayvonne attacked Zimmerman, and got his. Whether or not Zimmerman is a good guy or not is besides the point.

          • UNCMoose187

            The cops also said the same thing about the officer who murdered Tamir rice in Cold Blood. He shouldn’t have been an officer, head crying fits during training, was mentally unstable, etc. And yet somehow despite more evidence than most of the other cases combined, he walked away an innocent man or as a 12 year old boy playing lost his life in under a minute due to an officer who was rejected by other departments blatantly ignoring his training along with any semblance of common fucking sense.

          • I don’t believe you, you’re full of chit. Zimmerman challenged him and asked what he was doing, Trey von didn’t like that, and Trey von got what was coming to him, end of story.

          • don

            Doesn’t matter he was told not to do so in the first place so my point made made. Then his punk ass confronts this kid and was getting his ass handed to him so he did what every coward would is to pull a gun. Fuckin coward

          • It does matter, Zimmerman confronted him, and Trayvonne didn’t like it, so he attacked Zimmerman. Zimmerman had every right to defend himself.

          • If I ask you what you are doing, let’s say im not being nice even, and you come at me trying to beat me down?
            I’ll put your ass in the ground boy!

          • number06

            make things up much ?… The operator said : “We don’t need you to do that” which is totally different than saying don’t do that

          • Karen Bayer

            The record shows no such thing. There’s no video, witness of photo of Zimmerman walking back to his car.

          • B. P. G.

            That is a complete lie. Travon was a kid that an adult preyed on because he “looked like he didn’t belong” in that neighborhood. The kid was shot with a sweet tea in one hand and Skittles in the other. No one attacked Zimmerman. He killed an innocent kid on his way home.

          • Eyewitness testimony had tray von on top of Zimmerman punching him in the face

          • UNCMoose187

            The record shows that? LOL, and let’s not forget that Trayvon Martin had the right to defend himself from a creepy fucking stalker whom he didn’t expect a gun to be brought to a fist fight that he didn’t start.

          • Teresa Stone

            No it does not. Zimmerman lied like he always has. Martin did not leave to tell his side. Zimmerman is nothing but wannabe cop loser. He will get his . Mark my words. You don’t continually screw over people in life and live to tell it for long.

          • Teresa Stone

            Record? Who’s record? Only the two of them were there! And Zimmerman has shown exactly what kind of idiot he was! Worst kind of scum!

          • SabresLoyalist

            Court testimony completely refuted your statement.

          • UNCMoose187

            Except it didn’t though, LOL. What the fuck are you even talking about? Did you even watch or listen to the case or did you get all your news from one conservative source? Seriously though, you’re part of the problem if you don’t even know the basic fundamental details of one of the most high-profile cases in our country the past few years.

          • Outtahereasap

            The problem was Martin didn’t leave Zimmerman alone. You are beyond hopeless. Zimmerman didn’t threaten anyone. The dumb woman on the phone was witness to that.

          • Karen Bayer

            Wrong. He said on the phone that someone creepy was following him. He did not say he as following the fat-dough-boy.

          • UNCMoose187

            You mean the same Trayvon Martin that had the same stand-your-ground rights that Zimmerman defended himself with? I’m pretty sure anyone would defend themselves from a creepy stalker following them with a loaded gun. The woman on the phone never testified to seeing the whole fight, she testified to the fact that she saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman part way through a struggle. Wonderful, but it means literally nothing other than all the evidence indicating trayvon martin protecting himself.

          • Teresa Stone

            No, it was exactly the opposite. Zimmerman would not leave Martin alone.

          • Teresa Stone

            Listen smarta$$, Martin was on foot and Zimmerman had a car and a freaking gun. ! You racist idiot!

          • Karen Bayer

            Yes, Zimmerman started the situation and should have gone to prison for manslaughter. 911 did tell him to stop following Trayvon. I’d like 5 minutes locked in a room with him. (But he’d probably shoot me in the heart too.)

          • David Keith

            Air head.

          • Jonathan Miller

            You drank the koolaide… I saw Trayvons Facebook page, him holding guns, drugs, stolen shit…but you believe the photo from when he was 12, yeah, so, whatever…

            Zimmerman is a turd, but Trayvon wanted to be a “No limits Nigga” in his own words, not mine…and I think he was until he died… Zimmerman did what anybody would do seeing somebody skulking around in the dark, looking in windows, he called the Cops…

          • Teresa Stone

            Lying sorry sack of human excrement you are!

          • Jonathan Miller

            So, a person reporting you to the police is threatening your life? You are a moron. He was a community watch person and is still a free man because you twisted aholes couldn’t even get a rigged state like Florida to say he was guilty…

          • sophia

            would that be the same person that has beaten up more than one girl friend and sold a murder weapon for profit? Who himself disregarded orders from dispatchers is much bigger than the person he pulled a gun on and who had no right to do so in the first place… Yes up standing citizens should all be supported.

          • Jean Daniel

            Sophia, in the eyes of white people, their people can do no wrong. This is why white people financially support white murderers like Zimmerman and Dylan Roof. This is how white people are raised. Support your own white people whether they are right or wrong. Black people are so traumatized by the effect of Jim Crow and slavery that only a real God can bring us out of this, not the white man fake God.

          • spankee

            then why are blacks killing each other daily? Did the white man make them do that too? pathetic. people need to take responsibility for their own lives, and maybe if the blacks got out from under the democrats slave whip they may have a better life…. Democrats love keeping blacks down, they know how to manipulate them by giving them free shit and lying to them, all these years and they still cant get it together? All that welfare and still cant get it together? Maybe take a look in the mirror thats your problem…….. Jean Daniel you sound mentally ill, did the white man do that too?

          • Who the heck ever supported Dylan Roof? This lie alone proves your distorted thinking. The only ones supporting Roof was the Church he assaulted, who immediately, in true Christ-like fashion, forgave him. . Making stuff up to justify your distorted and racist point of view won’t make anything better. It is only making things worse.

          • littleonedee

            Jean you might want to go back and check on your history it was the Democrats that induce slavering it is the Democrats that kept slaves it is the Democrats that are keeping the black Americans oppressed.

          • UNCMoose187

            And while you’re at it, the Republican party of Lincoln is no longer the Republican party of today nor was it the same Republican Party decades ago.

          • mike

            Zimmerman was not white he is Hispanic and Dylan Roof is just a cowardly peace of crap that will get what he deserves when they put him in prison in general population think about it

          • torr10

            Zimmerman isn’t white. It’s people like you that cause the problems.

          • UNCMoose187

            And it’s people like you that protect criminals like Zimmerman and the other bad apple police officers out there that cause even bigger problems. Until the cops accept the fact that they are as much as if not more responsible for what is happening with these protests, nothing will change.

          • SabresLoyalist

            What an asinine comment! Do you honestly believe that lunacy? You do understand that whites marched for equal rights side by side with minorities? That it was the majority fighting for and with the minority that helped create the changes. Educate yourself! What blatantly racist crap! Idiot!

          • SabresLoyalist

            And when Obobo got 98% of the black vote? Explain that? Your idiocy and hypocrisy is showing, you should tuck that shit in!

          • Outtahereasap

            You are a moron.

          • Judy Heilig

            WOW, help me out here…Zimmerman is mexican and white so he is white, obama is black and white so he is black. The dude shot in NC is black shot by a black cop but all white cops are racist and shoot black people for no reason. Black people are traumatized by slavery that happen over 100 years ago. I don’t know if anyone has ever told you this before but you are full of crap………..

          • Jonathan Miller

            Democrats approve of killing 80k children a month each year through abortion…you are worried that Democrat George Zimmerman and Democrat Dylan Roof killed ten. Don’t cry as if you care about saving life…

          • Sam197859

            and your proof is what? I follow the trial and it is the media who blew this event way out of portion. False, narratives and all.

          • Don

            you will never know her proof – they communicate in an ol’ jungle chant they used before an intelligent black captured and sold them.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Zimmerman was in legal possession of the gun and was being assaulted by someone larger than himself, who was also stoned at the time. I would have shot him too! How many more times should he have allowed Trayvon to smack his head into the concrete?

          • Karen Bayer

            Well, that depends on who followed who and we all know the answer to that. Had the fat little dumpling boy minded his own business this conversation would not be taking place. The boy was steps from his door, you heartless creeps. And by the way … GO TRUMP !!

          • Jonathan Miller

            Had Trayvon not been peeping to case a home for some stealing, he would be alive… No one stands in the rain looking in windows at night to good intent…

          • UNCMoose187

            You do realize that Trayvon Martin had every right to defend himself from George Zimmerman who was stalking him in his own neighborhood. Wait, of course you don’t, that would imply you know something about the legal system. Pretty sure that everyone in this thread would defend themselves the same way, George Zimmerman just got lucky that he was getting his ass beat buy a kid trying to save his own life.

          • SabresLoyalist

            PS) he was found not guilty, so it was just a weapon, not a murder weapon.

          • Karen Bayer

            Hahah. OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony were found not guilty too.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Yeah, they were…and you must accept the verdict. Just as society does. I have never met a mother that didn’t know or care where her child was for 30 days without even asking, she could be innocent of murder, but not innocent of being a sorry fukcing human being…

            OJ was innocent and got away until the next time. Where is he now?

          • Outtahereasap

            He had every right under the law to pull that gun and USE IT. He did NOT disregard the police. You are so incredibly stupid. There is no substantiation that he beat anyone. What is wrong with you unbelievably ignorant people?
            There were witnesses! Go learn how to read the case and the testimony and quit insulting the jury decision. I would have done the same thing!!! YOU are the racist hating an Hispanic for defending himself from a real thug. MARTIN WAS A PUNK THUG ATTACKING INNOCENT PEOPLE.

          • UNCMoose187

            And Trayvon Martin had every right to protect himself from a stranger that was stalking him in the street with a loaded gun. I’m pretty sure his right to defend himself proceed that of George Zimmerman who we now know initiated the whole conflict to begin with. And because Trayvon Martin is no longer with us, the only thing we have to go by are Zimmerman’s words, words that we knew at the time were lies and words we definitely know now or blatantly false.

          • Karen Bayer

            Right. He’s a cop wanna-be that got turned down by the police academy because they could see was demented. He couldn’t handle the rejection and has been playing cop ever since.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Of what was he convicted? Yep, nada, you ignorant thing, otherwise he would have lost the right to carry a gun, you know the one that saved his life?

          • Jonathan Miller

            Carried by six was avoided by being judged by 12. If the race baiter D. Attorney had not willfully overcharged him, Trayvon’s family may have rec.a small portion of comfort at Z’s temporary incarceration… When you attack somebody, you don’t know what you will get…he got the Bonus plan…

          • CHRISTO99

            Trayvon was threatening zimmermans life? He had a bag of skittles in his hand. Man, this thread really shows the IQ of you ‘bluelivesmatter’ people. Did you all ride the short bus to this comment section or did you hitch a ride with the KKK when your special Ed classes let out?

          • Rob Keaton

            hmm..with your above comment, supporting shitbag treyvon and your kkk comment, yea, gotta grab that race card,.. that’s all you libs have..painting halos on thugs

          • Jean Daniel

            That’s all you white folks ever dealt Black and Brown people is the race card.White people make laws based on the color of our skin (mass incarceration ) voting rights (Black people are the only Americans that a president has to sign a paper every 25 years so we don’t lose our right to vote (new American citizens automatically get the right to vote, when they become citizens. Black people are the only American citizens who are denied a job or denied housing based on the color of our skin and then you white folks have the nerve to accuse Black people of playing the race card,and you sit back silently and laugh.

          • spankee

            some black people need that race card to live, free housing, free college, free food, free health care and still cant survive? Please. Some people just dont want to do better, and then they blame whites for that too. Hahahahahahahahah!! Sure…

          • John Highcroft

            OK, Jean. Put your money where your mouth is. Provide ANY documentation that proves your statement about a president having to sign something every 25 yrs. That’s absolute bullshit. Either prove it or shut up.

          • OBlamo Binlyen

            “We’ll have those Ni&gers voting Democrat for the next 200 years”. Lyndon Baines Johnson DEMOCRAT. Looks like, from your uninformed comment he was right.

          • (((Aron)))

            Except Johnson never, ever said that.

            It was made up by an Air Force One steward who wanted to make the president look bad and the Civil Rights Act to fail.

          • CraxyD

            Citation OTHER than Snopes?

          • (((Aron)))

            MacMillan claimed he heard it.

            No one else has come forward.

            It is highly doubtful that President Johnson uttered that heinous phrase.

            Other off-color remarks, certainly. But that one? No.

          • SabresLoyalist

            With that chip on your shoulder, however do you get through doors? I would love to see people hired because they were the most qualified for the job! But it seems that doesn’t fit the agenda of keeping hiring and school quotas in place. It isn’t the whites benefitting from those practices! “Content of character,” you might try developing some!

          • Rob Keaton

            Actually I am literally laughing my ass off with the race card manipulation oh woe is me victim mentality you have going on..funny that men I served with didn’t whine like you

          • Rob Keaton

            Mass incarceration..you can tjank Bill Clinton..voting rights..you are a citizen, whats rhe problem?

          • CHRISTO99

            Halo? No. I never said anyone was a saint. Trayvon Martin was a kid with a bag of skittles who was chased down in his own neighborhood by a maniac with a gun. He could have been any race. It was insane and wrong. I can’t see how anyone could see it differently unless you just believe black people deserve to die.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Or, unless you followed the case and actually know the case not just the BS! Read the ,i
            htit will explain the innocent skittles. Skittles weren’t his only purchase that nite, guess why?

            p://thekansascitian.blogspot.com/2012/05/more-than-bag-of-skittles-trayvon.html?m=1

          • CHRISTO99

            No. Like seriously. Stop. You can make love to Zimmerman if you want. You win. For the second time. Please stop emailing me. I don’t care. You may like spending 13-14 hours emailing me trying to convince me that Zimmerman is a hero but I DONT CARE. IM OVER IT. GOOD NIGHT. GOODBYE. GOOD LUCK IN LIFE. You’re the winner!

          • Outtahereasap

            Are you high? No one is emailing you. This is a comment forum. You put stupid ignorant comments on here and are getting replies. Go into your little tiny hate room in your head and stay off here if you don’t like truth and facts.
            Thug attitudes get you thug dead. Get it?

          • CHRISTO99

            Every time I get a reply it goes to my email. I asked you to stop. You obviously can’t control yourself. Now I’m going to pray to your KKK God that your mother gets aids. And I will pray that a million black guys rape her. So go on you racist faggot, keep commenting.

          • Rob Keaton

            Negative he was an 18 yo man who wasn’t chased down, he was out instigating trouble, do you reminded he also bashed Zimmermans head in concrete before the shooting?

          • libwithIQ

            Trayvon was beating Zimmermans head into the concrete. Fact proven in court. You blacklootersmatter crowd just can’t stand facts. Reading and comprehension isn’t in your skill set are they spanky?

          • CHRISTO99

            Because Zimmerman chased him down for no other reason than he was black. You dumb nazi moron. The kid lived in the neighborhood and was chased down by this psycho. So, spanky, what do you have now? My reading comprehension is far beyond yours. I’ve managed to digest more than just mein kampf, which makes more well read than you. F$&king pig.

          • libwithIQ

            BOL..You are seriously naive and incredibly bereft of facts. NONE of the things you say have been proved in the court proceedings. You really must like living in a fairy land because making up things seems to be your forte. Trayvon wasn’t a little kid. He wasn’t chased down. He attacked and beat Zimmermans head into the concrete. All verifiable FACTS. As for your incredibly insipid ad hominem attacks. Well..that’s what we’ve come to expect from low intelligence liberal children. I could bandy talking points with you all day but you really bore me child. Why don’t you go on to your safe place and leave intelligent conversation to adults with a modicum of common sense.

          • CHRISTO99

            My god. You literally just have to read the Wikipedia page. Police told Zimmerman to stand down. He refused. Continued chasing Martin. It’s so simple. It has nothing to do with me being liberal.

          • libwithIQ

            BOL…really? Wikipedia is your source. Well you lose this argument already. READ THE COURT RECORDS. Did Zimmerman follow him? Yes. Did he CHASE him. NO. Did Trayvon attack Zimmerman and beat his head on the concrete? Yes.

          • CHRISTO99

            Wikipedia is now allowed to be cited in university thesis papers, number one. And this is pointless. Obviously I believe if a man with a gun is “following me” while I’m in my neighborhood minding my business eating skittles, I would beat his head in. You believe differently. I guess I’ll follow your mom around her neighborhood with a gun in my hand. You won’t mind, right? Why do you hate black people? Why can’t you admit you’re wrong? It takes a big man to do so, but you’re probably not a big man, are you? Is that why you hate black people so much?

          • Sharon Campbell

            Maybe for historical articles. And certainly not by serious academics!

          • Sarah Butler Vance

            How is Wikipedia allowed in University papers but not in high school….

          • John Highcroft

            Christo99 – Wikipedia is still NOT allowed in most universities. Do you know why. Because ANYONE can pretty much post what they want and people believe it is the truth because they saw it on the Internet. A person could read the article you are using and then post the opposite and both would be there. Wikipedia is a horrible reference, not just for this topic but for everything

          • SabresLoyalist

            What kind of second rate school would allow Wikipedia, a second rate website, to be used as a resource or reference for a thesis? How do you know that he was actually carrying the skittles? They are used to in a drug cocktail. And how do you know that he actually had the gun out? Because in court testimony it wasn’t? Why should anyone admit they are wrong, when you clearly don’t know the facts of the case? Are you big enough of a man to admit that you are wrong?

          • CHRISTO99

            Dude. Dude. You seriously just spent 13 hours emailing me without a single response, trying to convince me that George Zimmerman is a good guy. Get it together, man. Please just stop. You win. George Zimmerman is a real hero. I promise. You win.

          • Outtahereasap

            Actually, I think he was. There was a history there of break ins and he wanted to keep an eye out for more. He never tried to stop Martin with the gun or yell at him to stop…he called 911, because of the way Martin entered and snuck through part of the property. It makes sense to try to at least see the direction he went before police arrived, in case he tried to break in while waiting, but he didn’t chase him down. Martin came back for him for no apparent reason. He could have gone to the apartment where he was visiting. That “you can’t watch me” bad ass attitude was moronic and didn’t justify a physical attack.
            Martin tried to kill Zimmerman.

          • UNCMoose187

            So where exactly were you standing when you saw that George Zimmerman did not yell at him to stop?

          • UNCMoose187

            Interesting question. Are you?

          • UNCMoose187

            Lol, no, his sources are the 911 calls in George Zimmerman’s own voice, the fact that Wikipedia is reporting the truth is completely irrelevant. Nice try though in trying to change the conversation.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Read the court testimony. He was found guilty because facts were presented not Wikipedia pages.

          • Outtahereasap

            It has to do with you thinking every black that goes down didn’t deserve it. Your pet thug circled back and attacked Zimmerman. The police said you don’t need to chase him. zimmerman did not.

          • CHRISTO99

            And Martin was 17! That’s a child. You can write that I have low intelligence but I’m giving FACTS that are in every report. Martin did not go after your hero, Zimmerman.

          • libwithIQ

            OH B.S. 17 old a child? Hell, 17 year olds can serve in the military. This 17 year old had a police record. 17 year olds are tried as adults. This 17 year old was also 4 inches taller than Zimmerman. Zimmerman is no ones hero. But he was the one attacked. Proven in court. Deny all you want but that’s the facts.

          • SabresLoyalist

            FYI, 17 will get your case in adult court.

          • Outtahereasap

            He didn’t follow him …he walked to an area that would allow him to see down the corridor if he could tell where Martin had gone. . The dumbo on the phone testified she could hear GZ “far away” answer when Martin spoke to him.
            She was the one who made it clear they were at a distance.

          • CraxyD

            Is a 17 year old incapable of killing or causing grievous harm to someone by repeatedly bashing their head into a curb?
            “Yes” or “No” are the only acceptable answers to this question.

          • CHRISTO99

            About two minutes into the call, Zimmerman said, “he’s running”.[59] The dispatcher asked, “He’s running? Which way is he running?”[60] Noises on the tape at this point have been interpreted by some media outlets as the sound of a car door chime, possibly indicating Zimmerman opened his car door.[61] Zimmerman followed Martin, eventually losing sight of him.[59] The dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following him. When Zimmerman answered, “yeah”, the dispatcher said, “We don’t need you to do that.”

          • UNCMoose187

            Once again, no, there was absolutely zero proof that Trayvon Martin started a fight with George Zimmerman. Once again your choosing your own version of events because that is what you want to believe.

            None of what Zimmerman said matches up 100% nor do the eyewitness accounts that supposedly exonerate him. All we do know is that George Zimmerman stopped the young man, the boy that had his own stand your ground right to defend himself and that boy is now dead. The only witness to the fight saw only part of the conflict as it was happening, not the whole thing from beginning to end. Just because you can’t prove something in court doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, any first grader with basic knowledge of civics can tell you that. I find it hilarious how you would ignore such key details to the case in favor of your own version of events while at the same time not being able to see your own hypocrisy by selectively telling people what you think could have happened, not what actually happened.

          • torr10

            Martin didn’t live there. He was visiting.

          • SabresLoyalist

            He didn’t live there, he was visiting his father’s girlfriend’s apartment. So, spanking, get your facts straight! BTW there had been numerous car break ins and burglaries, that’s why Trayvon drew his attention. Since you don’t seem to know any of the facts of the case, you might want to SDASTFU.

          • Outtahereasap

            Hey oink man! He could have gone straight to the apartment he was visiting…the end. Instead he circled back and snuck up on a person and beat their head on the pavement. He was an ignorant thug. Fortunately, Florida has conceal carry permits to STOP ignorant thugs. Nazi that, uninformed one.

          • Susan Butler

            Obviously Trayvon didn’t pound that ignorant POS’s head into the ground hard enough. He pointed a gun at him..he followed and harrassed him and deserved an a**whipping.

          • SabresLoyalist

            He deserved to be beaten? What an ignorant comment. You do realize that he was watching the neighborhood because of car break ins and burglaries? How did he harass him?

          • UNCMoose187

            Yes, if I was being stalked by a creepy man with a loaded gun In an area around my home, I would protect myself too. And yet Trayvon Martin paid the ultimate price with his own life simply because he was protecting himself from a delusional an egotistical moron. Trayvon Martin had rights as well and those rights preceded those of George Zimmerman who was the instigator in this whole chain of events.

          • Outtahereasap

            Uh….for you in dummy land, there were witnesses. Btw you sick idiot, you don’t beat someone’s head in for following you at a distance. You go home.
            You have the animal mentality.

          • UNCMoose187

            There were eyewitnesses that saw the whole thing go down from beginning to end? Really? Wow, I must have missed that when I was watching the case every single day from beginning to end, LOL. Honestly though, if you’re going to selectively choose your own facts than and least know what you’re talking about.

          • libwithIQ

            See. There you go having to make crap up to back a false point. Zimmerman never pointed the gun at Martin. Never proved. Never happened. He followed and watched. And was then attacked by the 17 year old with a criminal record. You liberals really should read the court transcripts. If you can read.

          • UNCMoose187

            And there you go again, you say that there’s no proof Zimmerman pointed a gun at Trayvon Martin except for the fact that we will never know if it went down that way or not. But for some reason you can accept that Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman first? Without any proof? Even better, with the proof we have indicating that George Zimmerman instigated the whole thing? If you’re too fucking stupid to ignore the hypocrisy in that, please stop commenting on cases like this because you’re embarrassing yourself

          • UNCMoose187

            Actually no, that was not proven in court, nor was it proven by the pictures of Zimmerman’s apparent injuries. Seriously though, if you’re going to peddle some bullshit at least make sure it’s accurate. If someone’s head is being slammed into the pavement countless times to the point that they are about to black out, I’m pretty sure you would have more than a scrape that was barely even noticeable a day or two after the murder. LOL, honestly, none of this surprises me because Germany was an educated populace when Hitler took over and look what happened to them. In America, once you become a police officer everyone else becomes a criminal or at least a potential criminal. And once you’ve chosen a side, for a majority of Americans it’s impossible to accept different points of view other than your own.

          • torr10

            Guess your ears broke when it came to the part about Martin attacked Zimmerman as Zimmerman was leaving the scene….and that part about Martin beating Zimmerman’s head into the concrete curb…and the part about Zimmerman not being white.People like you are the problem.

          • SabresLoyalist

            He was bashing Zimmerman’s head into the concrete. Yes, that’s threatening.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Siting on GZ’s chest, eating skittles, banging whitey’s head on concrete. Yep, a regulr night…You a chest sitter, too, Bozo?

          • Jean Daniel

            Black Americans stop trying to open white people eyes, they already know what the deal is, when white people respond to your comments all they’re doing is flexing their white privilege muscles, to make sure you don’t forget who you are talking about.

          • spankee

            we know whats what we dont need anyone “opening our eyes” Maybe you need yours opened……

          • torr10

            White people freed the slaves that black people owned. Flex that.

          • Tashika Hollamon

            Freeing of slave was about the bottom line money. Had nothing to do with white ppl being nice.

          • Outtahereasap

            You are a disgusting liar.

          • Jonathan Miller

            White Privilege is working 50 hours a week while inspiration-lazy, mentally nasty and disrespecting scofflaws receive benefits on basis of race and skin color. Blacks are equal, so why treat them as inferior as Democrats do? Demwits say people are the same, so why the continual double standard?

          • Ah Got Somethin Ta Say!

            I bet a gun isn’t even necessary for your compliance.

          • Jonathan Miller

            I am big enough to take care of myself, at 6-2, and 280 lbs… but feel free to say whatever you want from a distance. I open carry, because cowards love to rob easy targets without the protection of a gun. You don’t like it? It is none of your business…until you’ve f*cked up…

          • Ah Got Somethin Ta Say!

            6’2″ and 280 lbs? You say that like its a point of pride. Anyone in even moderately decent shape would run circles around you.

            That said, I have no problem with someone carrying for personal protection. I do have a problem with those who blindly kowtow to authority, or misrepresent the reality of mistrust and corruption on both sides of this issue.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Yeah, talk some more of that dumb shit from a distance, loudmouth. Run circles is what they do after they are assisted up. You are not kowtowing to authority when you respect a law officers legal commands, but it sounds like you think you are the sole arbiter of what you will allow to happen… You’re just the kind I used to dust off the ground, when they let size or number think that their intimidation would work. At 54, I don’t run after anybody but no one will chase me either.

          • Ah Got Somethin Ta Say!

            Your projection is cute. We will never meet, so all your faux-machismo and bluster is for not. For what its worth, I have no doubt that your short fuse would lead to you murdering someone due to your thin skin.

            Nevertheless, I’m glad we have guns so folks like yourself who can’t defend yourselves naturally still have a fighting chance. Sorta contrary to Darwinism, but so is everything else nowadays.

          • Jonathan Miller

            It doesn’t matter what you think, you will likely try to gun your ignorant way out of a police contact. You are likely a skinny little twat boy with needle marked arms and delusions of grandeur and oppression. You’re a chicken little troll, who keeps your idiocy postings hidden…but it won’t help hide you from circumstance.

          • Ah Got Somethin Ta Say!

            Oh yeah, that’s very likely. Lol.

            So much hateful non-sequitur. Life is short. Try to enjoy it, my friend. Adios.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Ask Keith to roll you a blunt…but Holla loudly…

          • sergeantba

            But according to black narrative, only white people can be racist. And since Trayvon was killed by a Hispanic man, racism couldn’t have been the issue.

          • TechieXP

            The man who shot Mr Martin was a white/Hispanic. Who has since been having lots of criminal issues including putting a gun to his fiancee dads face.

          • David Keith

            So did Lamont.

          • Jason Shwagner

            All of your black angels you worship have too pretty much. You love gulping down media narrative by the truckload. Learn to think for yourself, this whole Divide is because dulllards insist on buying whatever shit the media shovels.

          • Eleanor Cummings

            We know our MSM is corrupt, lying liberal entities. ‘s a question that goes begging for an answer.
            If everyone condemns racial violence, why does harm never befall those who are guilty of it’s proliferation? Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, David Duke, Hillary Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, Barack Obama, and the list goes on.
            Why does harm only befall those who advocate working together and condemn racial violence? John Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Medgar Evers, and the list goes on.
            The reason is money. Big money. Racial division is a big business. Working together and showing mutual respect to solve a problem costs nothing, and that is why it is not tolerated. The good and righteous are murdered to silence their beliefs, by their own people, to perpetuate racial division. The time has come to realize this country is only divided by people who create the division for profit. They do not care about your future, regardless of your race. So stop feeding their agendas by taking sides. Our current issue is not black/white, it is right/wrong. If you can see through the protests, the media created frenzy and the governmental pandering, the truth is visible. Not only now, but throughout our history, it is an easily seen inexorable truth that is being obscured by the big business of racism.
            Think for yourself, don’t blindly follow those who wish to deceive and play to your weakness. Be leaders, as our history has also shown, strength is not always in great numbers. The freedoms of our country provide for such revolutionary ideas, don’t waste them just to take a side based on demographics,wake up people is time.

          • Michael Burch

            While Martin was beating the Crap out of the idiot..Martin jumped him from behind..if Martin had not done that ..he would not have been shot

          • Rob Keaton

            negative, that lowlife little gangster got his ass handed to him after he stalked a Hispanic male..stop painting halos on pieces of shit in the community..

          • Charles Wright

            Your right, he just didn’t have a badge.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Protecting yourself is a right, not a cowardly act.

          • CraxyD

            No, he was killed because he circled around, started a confrontation that ended after he was pounding Zimmerman’s head into the pavement.
            Had he not engaged Zimmerman, he would still be alive.

          • (((Aron)))

            Had Zimmerman not been stalking Martin, this never would have happened.

            I should have known you were a ZimCultist.

          • Chattykate

            Trayvon was a thug about to possibly kill Zimmerman. Trayvon lost.

          • torr10

            Martin was killed by a man defending himself from an idiot.

          • Don

            Trayvon lost his life due to his inability to understand the problem with attacking a person with a gun.

          • cardnut

            Trayvon Martin was killed because he attacked a voluntary neighborhood security-watch person whom he suspected of being a gay stalker.

          • Outtahereasap

            You are a lying pig. The jury has spoken. It is just fine when one of yours is flipping guns in LE faces with your chants that they had permits for their guns.
            An Hispanic citizen had a conceal carry and used it when he was being beaten. One shot is extreme restraint under the circumstances. Martin got what he asked for.

          • John J Rouse

            That’s hilarious since the only one that night who made any racial comments was Traydead. “Creepy ass cracker”

          • Troy Extinct Wooten

            i man who can’t defend himself with his hands is a coward. you may not win every fight but you live.

          • Jason Shwagner

            Doesnt matter because the BLM crowd insists on lumping that punk in with all the so called police abuse so we who call BS on the whole thing need to keep reminding those that he was a punk regardless. He was already a drug dealing, “purple drank” slurping gun loving gangster stereotype loving thug at age 17. Zimmerman is a dolt but at least he saved someone or many someones a future thugging by that puke.

          • Robert States

            look who calling people names, he was killed by a man who was watching over his neiborhood, hes allowed to do that, if trayvon could go back in time he would not have gone home and come back to his demize…..

          • kbhart

            Trayvon Martin was thug who liked to intimidate and beat up people. I saw a video that his FRIEND took of him beating up an old black man for his backpack. Now if that is not low life scum I do not know what is. He got what he deserved.

          • kbhart

            I made a mistake it was Michael Brown that I saw the video of.

          • Earl Cletus

            No he was killed by a minority in the self defense of his own life. The same thing that you would have done.

          • number06

            trademark was a thug who was shot while beating a man (As witnesses testified and the court records show)

            Try again

          • CHRISTO99

            Trayvon Martin was murdered by a civilian you moron.

          • Rob Keaton

            No Trayvon was a victim of his own demise, along with shitbag Michael Brown

          • Outtahereasap

            You are the moron. Martin wasn’t murdered. He attacked an armed man, was stopped with one shot. Self defense. Jury verdict. The only crime was the AG and prosecutor pig who didn’t give it to a grand jury for indictment. It would have been a no bill. She is a pig and lost her election over it. She caused racial unrest with her bs lack of due process.

          • Jonathan Miller

            He’s dead from attacking a community watch person, right? He is dead, but he wasn’t killed by a white person, except as is construed by ignorant people and race baiters…

          • mike

            Trayvon Martin wasn’t killed by a cop

          • Clayton Bigsby

            You mean like Philando Castile? Or like Lamontez Jones, or Christopher Kimble or…..you see where this is going right. You’re a weak, coward ass, racist POS. Just own that shit and keep it moving.

          • sheryl brantley

            Can you list all the cops names shot by blacks while they werr doing nothing but serving their communities?
            Good cops..Husbands, grandfathers, sons, brothers.
            By criminals being criminals.
            That doesn’t matter,right.

          • sophia

            Can you make the list of cops shot by white men? You are assuming that white criminals don’t kill officers but I hate to break your bubble they do. Criminals kill people all the time. That is not the issue. Your statement is the reason why Black lives matter exists in the first place. Best to kill off a Black man even before you have identified his crime just incase… That is exactly what is happening along with a few people killing because they know they can get away with it.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Yes, it is the issue. Because statistically blacks are shot less than whites and shot less often by white officers. And your position is not based on facts or the statistical data of crime or police shootings. You need to do some research.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Explain where it’s going. Because none of the 3 could clearly be called police over reaction.

          • elissalf

            Wow. You just called for people’s deaths because you disagree with them politically. You are a disgusting piece of filth.

          • CHRISTO99

            “If the subject would of (the word is ‘have’ you redneck moron) just followed the officers orders, they’d be alive today.” This is a stupid, insensitive, absurd argument. People have been murdered. Murdered by these pigs. And you say, “if they followed orders…” all you racist hillbillies are the same.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Would you like a few names thrown your way? I mean, since you enjoy generalizing but don’t seem to actually have any facts.

          • Jean Daniel

            It’s so easy to sit in your smug white privilege world and judge another race on a matter that you know you as a white person will never have to experience. Remember when white people rejoiced so in the so-called crack epidemic in the Black community, throw them crack addict in jail white folks screamed. Now their communities is plagued with a heroine addiction and white people are crying “don’t lock the heroine addicts up, it’s a sickness ” hypocrites. White people the Karma bus is here.

          • CraxyD

            “don’t lock the heroine addicts up, it’s a sickness ”

            Not me. Narcan is part of the standard kit in every first responder’s kit here anymore and I have a problem with that. I’ve read about the same tweakers needing brought back 2-3 times a week and I think it’s sickening. Take it from the cops, leave it with the paramedics and that’s it. Don’t get to them in time? Oh well.
            Addiction is not a ‘disease’ or a ‘sickness’ FFS. Death by OD is something that person has basically made an appointment for.

          • SabresLoyalist

            You are a disturbed woman! No one rejoices. Because to be honest we know that any issue in the inner city will cost the taxpayers more money!

          • Outtahereasap

            Nice threat…..back at ya babe!

          • Charles Wright

            Like get your I’d..then get shot reaching for it?? That Castillo guy followed the officers orders and was shot…like the guy who was on his back with his hands up was shot and asked the officer why he shot him and the officer replied I DONT KNOW…, how a terrorist can blow up bombs in new York and found sleeping. The officer WOKE HIM UP!! That’s when the terrorist shot him and had a shootout with police. Even after the shootout he was taken into custody and immediate medical care provided. After crutcher was shot the officers backed away in tactical style. I support good officers, not cowards with a badge who are afraid of their own shadow. If the sight of black people puts you in fear of your life, you got the wrong job.

          • SabresLoyalist

            If you are going to try to make a point, your facts should at least be accurate. It was a business owner who called police on the sleeping terrorist. Big words, but you wouldn’t have the guts to police the streets these days.

          • Outtahereasap

            He was reaching for the illegal gun in his lap, after being told not to touch it.

          • Angela

            Amen.

          • Susan Butler

            Yeah, that worked so well for the caregiver laying on the ground with his hands in the air.

          • SabresLoyalist

            No one has ever said that they are all justified shootings. For you to bring this shooting up proves that you’re an idiot because the error was acknowledged immediately.

          • Susan Butler

            My my my..speaking of idiots. My comment was in response to those who claim that compliance is the answer when it has been shown (in my given example, for example) to be false. In fact, the supreme courts of Boston have declared that, a black man running from an officer cannot be construed as evidence of guilt..why? Because they have reason to fear and distrust the police. Hmmmm…wonder why a court would decide that?

          • Outtahereasap

            That error was committed by an Hispanic officer .

          • 1agd

            Philando Castile complied. That man in Florida trying to calm his autistic patient complied. They were still shot. Instead of sticking up for ALL cops why don’t you stand up and expose those rotten, corrupt cops. Cops lie just like anyone else. A cop nearly ran me down while I was on an evening walk. He kept right on going until he realized I got his license plate and cruiser number, then he turned around and came back. Had I been seriously injured or not got up, that SOB would have keep right on going. After I sued his ass, he was promoted to head of the traffic division.

          • Outtahereasap

            You lie. Castile did not comply…at all.

          • Troy Extinct Wooten

            @Todd let me ask you your response to being attacked. two black men with guns on their hips, dress in matching uniforms approach you for a broken tail light and you’re not in your car. how do you respond?

          • implorable Randell

            AMEN shutup and do what they say. then go on about your life. idiots demand to be shoot

          • Veronica Brown

            What about the therapist that was laying on the ground with his hands up that was still shot? (crickets)

          • UNCMoose187

            Lol, obviously you selectively choose your own the facts and your own cases which to accept and which to ignore.

          • Daron Nelson

            i believe in complying with police. Lets not act like black folks are the only ones who dont listen to police. There are alot of instances where white folks did the craziest shit. Waving guns and police, fighting police , cursing them out , resisting arrest. Yet they werent killed. And rarely are they killed. So the compliance excuses is just that.

          • Katherine

            This is not a police state. We have rights and when the officer is in violation of those rights, we should be able to stand up peacefully for these rights without the fear of harm. Take the young white teenager who was tazed into a coma knowing his rights and sticking to them. This particular case is a clear example of the power going to an officers head. His ego was hurt because he was demanding things the kid didn’t have to abide by according to our constitutional rights. Shoot first and ask questions later is not the correct procedure, yet it’s so comman practice that an officer in WV who chose to deesculate a situation without deadly force was fired for not using deadly force and asking questions later. You’re right, if people would just blindly follow the orders of police- all of this could be avoided- except that we have rights and this is not a police state and sometimes the police are wrong – and usually when an officer is wrong- someone ends up dead. This is not okay.

          • Stacy

            Amen to that Todd Modderman!! Lola Haysel, no one is saying that their lives don’t matter. It is the way that blacks act that get them killed. They see no reason for them to have to listen to authority & the “race” card is just an excuse. Didn’t you hear how his daughter was acting toward & what she said, her tone, the fact that she kept repeating herself over & over? Everything she said was hateful & absolutely uncalled for. Who in their right mind, would stand out in public & shout so loud that anyone could hear her while shout out profanities at that? For goodness sake, she even called him a m*ther f***king….! Which, to me, shows she didn’t even respect him. If people were to “wake up” they would see what cops have to put up with on a daily basis…trash talkers like her! Who taught her to talk like that? Idk how old she is, but, who would hire someone who sees no problem in speaking to people that way? Did the police officers standing there listening to her disrespect her in any way? Uh, no. And they are ALL equipped with loaded guns! I am sure what they understood was that this was an angered little brat, that helped to support what Black Lives Matter represents. I am sure that they also are aware of the fact that 1 in every 5 blacks have an IQ of 75 or less. 70-75 is “borderline retardation”. On an average their IQs are 75. I couldn’t handle being a cop nowadays. I would surely have been in jail, as I would have taken her & her little friend out as well, along with the wife….lol. It is a proven fact that children are a mirrored image of their parents in most instances. He was an ex-con who was not going to be treated as if any of his offenses were his first time & I am sure he was aware of that. Obviously, he didn’t learn anything from being locked up if he was threatening the police. With a daughter & wife that were mouthy like that, you never know if this guy didn’t already know the outcome & was a willing participant, as so to speak. I know I couldn’t live with 2 females like that. I’d be looking for a way out also. To me, that girl was just stupid & recorded a video to prove it just as the wife did. Because he was disabled doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have had a gun. (She has no idea that hunters in wheelchairs are & can be successful hunters, I guess.) Unless she was saying that he didn’t have the mentality to know what to do with one…lol. I think everyone knows that if you have a record, you cannot legally possess a firearm.

          • Mitch Powell

            “The simple fact?” “All of these incidents?” Wake up! (and it’s “would HAVE…” not “would OF…”

            Idiot.

          • Eleanor Cummings

            Ask a regular grassroots law abiding black man or woman and they’ll tell you the same thing. Do you think they’re happy with what the renegade blacks are doing?? People tend to blame all for what some are doing.

          • Stacy Mack

            ahem….wrong….the dead sob had a gun and it WAS pointed at the cops! get your facts or stfu! ignorant low life!

          • Clayton Bigsby

            Your mothers a low life, you raunchy trailer park bitch!

          • SabresLoyalist

            Classy!

          • babrown65

            Are you kidding? You are what’s wrong with the thinking in the US. It matters not that this subject had a gun and refused orders because of his skin color and you’re white guilt. You are correct that many whites are waking up, waking up and realizing there is much stupidity in both races.

          • Tristan Chris Heiss

            Privilege and comfort? You mean thats what all this hard work and following the laws is called ? white privilege my ass.. I was by passed at a college because some african with a 1 point lower GPA .. who is more privileged, got in instead of me..because of…YOU GUESSED IT..AFRICAN PRIVILEGE. You just believe the lie ,when the facts state that twice as many whites are killed by cops every year than africans ( or black americans). Liberal honky fool. Malcolm X was right, the worst enemy of the American Black..is the liberal honkey.

          • Tristan Chris Heiss

            Privilege and comfort? You mean thats what all this hard work and following the laws is called ? white privilege my ass.. I was by passed at a college because some african with a 1 point lower GPA .. who is more privileged, got in instead of me..because of…YOU GUESSED IT..AFRICAN PRIVILEGE. You just believe the lie ,when the facts state that twice as many whites are killed by cops every year than africans ( or black americans). Liberal honky fool. Malcolm X was right, the worst enemy of the American Black..is the liberal honkey. You are a delusional half wit millennial jackass whom, like all of your ilk, haven’t the 1st clue as to WTF your talking about and need to just STFU and get a life, in the real world ,not that fantasia you live in.

          • Jim Tuggle

            That’s OK, I was passed over for the top job at a college to a man who had about 6 months of experience in the field because he was a negro.
            My only chuckle in this came from the fact that he managed to get himself electrocuted doing basic testing in a panel. Sorry about that.

          • StephenRiquelme

            Is that what you told yourself to feel better about your failures?

          • Teresa Stone

            You sound like Don King

          • StephenRiquelme

            Yeah, I’m sure they made a point to disclose that to you. You didn’t get in because your parents are cousins you fucking red neck moron.

          • SabresLoyalist

            You sound angry. Preferential hiring not working for you?

          • Jonathan Miller

            He didn’t deserve anything. He denied the Police Officers basic respect. He got the Bonus Plan. Don’t want to get shot? Don’t play life or death games with People who don’t play…

            The Police said he had a gun. You have a bug in your ess about Fox News, you must be an idiot, must you hear it from Communist News Network before it is fact…?

          • Jim Tuggle

            You obviously prefer to run you mouth than to do something. Go to the police academy, get into uniform and get on the streets and show everyone just how to deal with fools who draw guns on police.

          • SabresLoyalist

            Excellent suggestion! Most couldn’t cut it!

          • selena

            Let me tell you. Black lives DO matter. I have some of the best friends in my life that are black and I would go to the ends of the earth for them because I love them for their heart NOT their skin. To say that WHITE people act as if these deaths don’t matter. Look at you using words and statements that target and ster·e·o·type one race together in one sentence assuming ALL white people dont think the death of a human being matters (you reduced yourself to the very thing you are against and by that statement YOU ARE a racist) Look at you making statements that assume the police accept the death of a human being to be OK. These men and women are out to serve and protect. That police officer will live with that heavy on his heart to his death. You assume this was a mistake like he accidentally shot and killed this man. He had a gun. These are service men out doing their jobs! What would you do??? Honestly, what would you do???? If you were at work to serve someone an arrest warrant (for God knows what) and there is a man with a firearm in and out of his car with it and after you order the man to drop it and he doesn’t – are you going to wait to see if you will be fired at?? WHITE people DO care about the death of human beings no matter their race. My heart is burdened for the loss this family is experiencing and also the pain that officer has on his heart. This entire situation could have been avoided through respect and cooperation. I am Mad that this had to happen because of pride and ego. There NEEDS to be a platform against violence and FOR understanding. Citizens of all races need to understand the mindset of police on duty – What their trained to look for and how to handle potential threats and police need to understand and respect the mindset of citizens and the fear they feel and intimidation they feel when being approached by them (although most citizens don’t feel that way in the presence of the law unless they are breaking it). Here’s the deal though – if I’m not breaking the law – I’m ok. If I am breaking the law and get caught and cooperate because I’m busted – I’m ok. If I’m breaking the law and resist, threaten, assault, break out a fire arm – I’m probably dead. I’m not saying this man was breaking the law that day in particular but just a scenario. The allegedly shows he had a firearm in his hand and did not drop it when asked. AGAIN I ask you – WHAT WOULD YOU DO? Answer – YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE because you werent there and YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE how WHITE people feel. YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE how a police officer feels. All you know IS HOW YOU FEEL and I would imagine your heart is pretty eaten up with a lot of anger, resentment, inability to forgive or have empathy for others. You ARE the racist here

          • Peony

            Their lives DO matter, but why don’t they follow orders? BTW, it’s been proven that more whites are killed by LE than blacks.
            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/

          • norinco

            In a town less that 30 miles from where Scott was shot.a white police officer was shot and killed by a black man over the weekend (Shelby,N.C.)…I did not hear one shout of racism…no one rioted…Obozo had NOTHING to say….all they had was a funeral ceremony

          • Richard Arlan Carter III

            Where was BLM when Louisianna was flooding? In fact most of the black people there were wondering the same thing. They were all up for rioting, but when it came time to really help. Nothing.

          • Esmae

            The deaths do matter very much what most people don’t see is that Black lives matter
            was created to divided and conquer feeding into hatred ? A divided nation can not stand against tyrants they’re trying to implement martial law and bring in the UN’s Agenda21.

          • Debbie Trame

            Omg I have been saying the same damn thing. Obama doesn’t want to leave office. Soros has to much invested in him and Hillary. And Obama knows she doesn’t stand a chance right now if winning.
            Only way for Obama to stay is to enact martial law before next president sworn in.
            I don’t think most realize what martial law truly means

          • BarrySucks

            Nice logic Lola…NOT! Far too many white people dont understand what the problem is when a criminal doesn’t obey the commands of a police officer and/or becomes belligerent and then gets shot! Of course there are mistakes, but name one. These riots and ensuing BS from BLM have happened after a black person caused their own demise. What is so hard to understand about pointing a gun at a cop probably will cause you to get shot? NO MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU ARE! There have been plenty of white idiots getting shot by black cops for the same reason…we just don’t hear about it because the media doesn’t care. And if you have a criminal past, thats even more reason you might get shot. Hello! Wise up idiots getting shot. You probably deserve it if you are not buying the cops order to drop the gun.

          • John P.

            Your a mess !!! So if your a cop and someone points a gun at you what will yo do ?? Stand there a say please put the gun down !!

          • Truth Seeker

            Wow. Typical liberal, spewing the typical liberal mantra. “Fox news lies!” Ya know? I actually don’t watch Fox. They try and report both sides of the political opinions, unlike liberal shows, but they withhold the truth as well, most of the time.
            As for your privilege, I didn’t realize you were born rich. I certainly wasn’t. I didn’t realize you owned slaves. I certainly didn’t. I didn’t realize you can get away with killing people, regardless of color. I can’t.
            Comfort? Yep, grew up having to walk to school because my dad was out of the house at 4 am to work as a tow truck driver. My mom worked downtown, and was also gone before I went to school. Dad died while I was in middle school. Did I blame blacks? Heck no, I just went on with my life. Mom got sick while I was in high school. Did I go to college? Nope, I went to work to provide for my family.
            Maybe you feel privileged with your life, but most of us hard working Americans actually had to work for a living.
            Take your liberal mantra and stick i where the sun don’t shine. People, even liberals, are getting tired of the lies. Grow up, and fface reality. Reality is, BLM has done absolutely nothing to help black lives. Prime example? THEY’RE RIOTING IN SOUTH CAROLINA RIGHT NOW, YOU MORON!!!
            How does that help their cause again?
            It doesn’t.

          • Judy Zumwalde

            The only thing Black Lives Matter has accomplished is the killing of many many law enforcement officers. And yes white people are waking up, waking up to the fact that these protests and riots ignore the facts even when proven with videos and eyewitness accounts. These protests are nothing more than an excuse to loot, riot, burn and attack innocent victims that had nothing to do with the incident. And scream their gutter language at the police. Their vocabulary is sadly lacking.And probably the worst of it all is the media that does it’s reports before they have all the facts. They sensationalize the incident which then instigates the rioting!!!

          • sheryl brantley

            Who is acting as if they don’t matter? Are cops supposed to just stand there and be shot?
            Way too many lies being reported as fact snd spread like wildfire, riots immediately ensue.

          • Kathy Jo Wilson

            Lola exactly why is it their lives matter any more then the greater percentage of white people who are killed by white officers? Look it up Lola it’s not a white on black issue, statistics prove it. Add to that, Why is it black lives matter so much more when killed by someone white, rather then the greater number that are killed by each other, BECUASE that is also a proven fact. More black lives end violently. At the hands of other black lives, then any other, ANY OTHER. If they do not matter to each other, what right do any of them have to judge any one??

            The really really sad thing is, this is not an issue of color, it’s an issue of community, politics and basic moral value, they have for each other, and those leading the communities, have for the community they are supposed to be serving. Nearly every community that suffers these issues, are run be politicians, who control budgets, to schooling educations, etc, how and what kind of businesses, are they have been voted in by that community, who keep falling for the same empty promises, from the people that say over and over, “I am going to change it, I am here for you, and I will make our community better!!” And yet those communities have suffered like this for decades. Perhaps communities need to really come together, vote out the crap leadership and vote in people that actually fight to make things better. Stop using everything as an excuse to sit back and rage and cry, stand up and take some POSOTIVE action and make things better, not worse!!

          • SabresLoyalist

            You are spot on except for one fact. The majority of black lives ended are ended violently, but not on the streets, at abortion clinics. And there doesn’t seem to be any issues with that within the community.

          • James Moore

            Like you??

            Tell the truth. You’re afraid to be called “racist”.

          • Jim Britt

            The thugs deserve to die. The National Guard should take machine guns and wipe out all the BLM terrorists

          • Angela

            Nobody acts like these deaths do not matter, but it is not the problem that it is made to believe. There are approximately 38.000,000 black people in America. There were 13,000,000 arrests made by police last year. Of those 13,000,000 only 965 were shot and killed by police. Of the 965, only 90 were shootings of people who did not have a weapon at the time of the shooting. Of the 90, only 46 were black. So tell me where there is a problem that warrants the media coverage and riots we are seeing. 46 out of 38,000,000 or even 13,000,000 is pretty good odds. So this rhetoric that blacks have to be afraid is really not statistically relevant. The point that people make is why are they not up in arms about the things that are statistically more relevant to their safety as a culture. Every life matters but police are being made out as if they are just on a killing spree. The chance of being shot by a police officer is pretty slim compared to all the other risks people take everyday. Lets just say that 1 death is one too many but it is going to happen when you are dealing with the criminal element, but 965 out of 13,000,000 proves that police are not trigger happy.

          • Dale Little

            So you are saying that the police officer made a mistake because he didn’t just stand there and let some ??? shoot him? You are as sick as those doing the rioting.

          • Right Uppercut

            What mistake did the cops make? The guy had a gun that he refused to drop. Please tell me how neutralizing that threat was a mistake? It wasn’t. Not only was it legal, but it is exactly what police are trained to do. Point a gun at a cop and you DO deserve what will happen to you. Period. Full stop.

          • don

            Finally somebody with balls big enough to speak the truth.

          • Outtahereasap

            You are correct ….speaking out of his balls and ass.

          • Chattykate

            Your ignorance might get you killed. The cops didn’t make a mistake. Do like white people do, LISTEN TO THE COMMANDS AND LIVE. If you have been wronged, live and sue, otherwise die and let family members sue and party on your death.

          • Xaria

            Im not sure what white people your refering too, as most of us do not believe that it is something that should be just accepted however, I also do not jump to conclussions before all the facts are in. It seems to me if you truly want “White” people to understand your views then perhap a less violent and less destructive way of making your voices heard woukd be a good idea. Hey what do I know Im a white woman married to a cop who views these riots instead of peacefull protest as asnine and stupid and senseless, when you give a shit about your community you do not destroy it you do everythi g you can to make it better and we are nkt seeing that

          • Zyrus

            It seems black lives only matter if they are shot by whites or cops. I don’t see BLM in an uproar over the more than 3,000 blacks shot by other blacks. So far too many BLACK people act as if those lives don’t matter. You are a typical ignorant sheeple blind to facts as usual.

          • Jim Tebo

            YOU are a idiot, BLM has done nothing for the blacks except cause more racial unrest than we have seen in 50 years. Most of these people were shot, not because they were being a outstanding citizen but because they did something that threatened someones life. Trayvon Martin got shot while trying to beat a mans head into the sidewalk. Michael Brown did not have his hands up, as some would lead you to believe, he was trying to take a police officers gun, and then even after he was shot, still tried to attack officer Wilson. This one all the evidence isn’t in yet, but his sister comes out and says he was waving a book and not a gun, how does she know she wasn’t even there. I would hope that if she is lying, that she is arrested for starting these riots. What we do know so far is that no books were found, but a gun was found. The list goes on, and in the end most of these shootings could have been avoided if only the person would have done what the police officer said, comply with what he tells you to do, raise your hands you do it, sit still, you do it, you do as you are told and nothing will happen to you, police officers are not out to harm anyone they are just trying to make our communities safe. BLM is what it is because it has paid protesters, George Soros has seen to that, Soros the person that has a warrant out for his arrest in Russia, because he tried to topple their economy. BLM has done NOTHING, for the black community, NOTHING at all, were are they in Chicago ? Have they tried to stop the murders ? Have they gone to black communities and tried to stop the senseless slaughter of young black men and women ? No they are too busy burning and looting. They have a bankroll of $500 million dollars have they spent one dime on the black community ? No. Have they gone into the communities and asked why the black population commit 48% of all homicides in the US ? 17% of the population commit 48% of the homicides, and what is just as bad 94% of those homicides is a black killing a black. You feel sorry for the blacks, i have no privilege what I do have I earned, I got it by respecting others and what they have.

          • Ronnie Buchanan

            Lola Hartsel Number I e you did not get the memo! The man had a gun threatened police was orders several times to drop the weapon he was not shot by a white officer! I am white and I don’t have white privileges! I am not stupid enough to confront law enforcement with a gun! Statistics show more whites are killed by cops than blacks you argument does not hold up! I don’t act like these deaths don’t matter but destroying and looting is no way to make a valid point! That officer which is black gave him as much opportunity as he could his life was in danger! They weren’t even looking for this guy he gets out of the car and threatens the police with a gun! The witnesses have confirmed this! Michael Brown was halfway in the police car wrestling the cop for his gun witnesses and his blood in the police car confirmed this! Do facts not have any place in your agenda! It does happen and it happens to whites as well. But for the most part they are justified by the actions of the deceased! It is sad that they lost their life just as sad as it was one of the witnesses a young black man in the Michael Brown case that was gonna tell the truth Brown did not have his hands up he was wrestling with the officer in the car was found murdered no one gave a big d#%& about that black life!

          • over it!

            No mistake was made….a criminal with a gun was shot by the police….Dont want to get shot dont be a thug with a gun….its really that simple!

          • over it!
          • SabresLoyalist

            If you’re awake, why haven’t you educated yourself with actual facts?

          • Richard Robbins

            Blacks vs white people killed by police this year:

            583 total, 170 black, 413 white…..I don’t see white people or black people standing up for all those white people who have been shot and killed. I’m not saying black lives do not matter, I am black, but don’t you think those white lives matter too?
            Who’s marching for them, I don’t see white people out looting and shooting over it, do you?

            You say they don’t care about blacks being shot, do they are about white people being shot?

            Maybe they don’t do anything because they simply let the investigation and subsequent consequences, whatever they are settle it, huh?

          • Will Perry

            These “mistakes” are not increasing. Only the awareness of this pathetic, misinformed, and uneducated population has increased.

          • Karen Bayer

            Lola — There always seems to be a repeat pattern … 98% of the men who got shot in past 2 years did not follow instructions … reached for something … or tried to run. I know for a fact that if I did that, my lilly white butt would get shot too! If the officer says stay still or show me your hands, do you actually think I’d reach for my pocket, or run away? Standing still is POWER. Following instruction is power. It takes away the power of officers to do anything to that person. Had they just stood their ground and followed instructions, guess what … they’d still be alive today. But I don’t hear the media or anyone in the Black community talking about “the repeat pattern.”

          • Laura Ellison

            So how does that excuse the riots and white people being thrown into a fire or dragged in a parking garage and gang beaten? Or destroying property and stealing???? You explain why it is all black men doing this and do how all they want is equality when they can’t even be decent human beings! No wonder police are reacting this way. Innocent police are killed all the time trying to protect innocent people from these thugs and yes they are thugs. Watch the new videos of these riots and tell me that isn’t a thug mentality!

          • implorable Randell

            LOLA you are a fucking idiot. the problem is the welfare sucking areas of every town. they lay around all day and sleep trhen at night they are up drinking doing drugs and looking for something to happen so they can loot and burn. total uneducated idiots and there are stupid wgite idiots in there with them. stop welfare and make the little punk ass bastards work every day and 99% of this shit will stop

          • kbhart

            You are WRONG. The police did what they had to do. He had a GUN and was threatening police. HE deserved to get shot by what his actions were. You reap what you sow. Why believe what his family is saying? They have everything to gain like lots of money from a BIG LAWSUIT. What does Fox news have to gain? NOTHING!!!!!

          • Gretchen

            What needs to be clarified is BLM stands for Black Lives Matter Too.

          • Gazoo

            I used to care. This instance was NOT a case of a black being shoot for no reason. There r those & that’s diff. Yeah, sorry. I don’t care that a person too stupid to follow diections, who has almost killed other ppl, beats women & children is dead. He knew the deal. He’s dealt w/ police A LOT.

          • Janice Daprato Smith

            You need to read the truth about Mr. Scott. Instead of a so called book he had a gun and was threatening the police officers. Can you say you would just stand there and see if he was really going to use it on them. I sure would not wait. And his wife was yelling Keith don’t do it . Don’t do it Keith. What in the world do you think she was talking about. I for one think she was telling him not to shoot the gun. I don’t think it was to not shoot the so called boot at the police officers. And then the so called witness said it was a white officer that shot Mr. Scott and in reality it was a black officer. So the family gets the media and everyone all in a tizzy over lies being told and the media always talks the lies before the truth so they will have a great story and can start a riot. Open your eyes people and see what is really happening before you go riot or loot. I stiil don’t see why they loot other than for their own thievery. Lies get us no where. Own up to the truth about your family or friends and stop all of this fighting. How many times have you seen white people riot and loot? I for one do not remember one time that has happened. I feel sorry for the family but people have consequences for their actions. Nobody should be above the law.

          • Eleanor Cummings

            I never watch the corrupt liberal MSM since doing my own extensive research on ownership and how they’ve been controlling us and brainwashing us for decades! What privilege and comfort? I am a white disabled dearly (81) widow lady and let me tell you, Lola Hansel, I started working when I was 5, (my sister 4) picking strawberries and retired at 78 as a ”handyman”. I paid into S.S. and never once collected unemployment, nor welfare. I have lots of black friends and they invariably say the same thing! ALL cops are scared, black or white, male or female, BUT THEY GET OUT THEIR AND DO THEIR JOBS! Yes, their are some bad ones, just like in ANY occupation (like our politicians), but unlike other occupations, they are NOT being deliberately targeted by our crooked administration! So I say, I’m not going on a guilt trip on the sins and crimes of others just because I’m white!! BS!!

          • Jean Daniel

            One thing the Native Americans got absolutely right about the white man is the fact that he speaks with a fork tongue. He thinks his views on things is the last word. That’s no longer true. The true nature of the white man is being revealed. And the rest of the world doesn’t like what they see.

          • libwithIQ

            The ignorance and racism is strong in this one Obi-Wan. ^

          • Jean Daniel, you do not understand or speak for our family, a multi-racial family, most of whom are enrolled tribal members.

          • Truth Seeker

            That’s pretty racist of you, Jean. I am a NATIVE AMERICAN. Shows you how much you can really know when arguing online in a comment section.

          • Sharon Harrison

            Yes libwitiq is wrong because blacks aren’t the only ones looting in these situations it is whites, blacks, Mexicans, asians, and other nationalities so bhow is it just blacks looting market libwitiq needs a reality check and iq check because some people can be so smart that they are dumb!!!!

          • Truth Seeker

            Typical liberal. You lost the argument by resorting to name calling.

          • CHRISTO99

            All you have to do is actually read. So easy, man. Just take a minute of your life to educate yourself and do research before you make claims. What has BLM done? How about how they are responsible for having the University of California pull out of a 30 million dollar deal to invest in prisons. They changed the police protocol in countless stations across the country, forced countless departments to use body cameras, instituted more humane practices in the station where Sandra Bland died, having them set up protocols for monitoring prisoners, added mental health experts in inside the jails, etc. BLM launched campaign zero, which introduced a long list of proposals to combat police brutality, which has been accepted by several departments.
            There has been a lot accomplished. I’m not here to fight with anyone. I’m not trying to be a jerk. If anyone wants to actually help educate me and enlighten me with anything I’m open. I’ve just been getting a thousand emails a day with comments from people being rude, stupid, and ignorant. We all don’t have to attack one another because we disagree about certain things. Once we get rude and resort to name calling like 2nd graders we shut down and become really childish. It’s so counterintuitive.

            So I hope this helps you to understand a little more about the BLM movement. Sure, there are folks who do nothing to help, they just yell out ‘blacklivesmatter’ and march around screaming without contributing, which happens in all circumstances in the world.

            Since I’m getting a million comments anyway, and if you want to respond to me with something interesting and educational, I would love to hear it. I would love for someone to write me and actually change my perceptions for the better because of their education and intelligent outlook on these situations. Just please don’t respond with anything overtly racist or simply unintelligent, uninformed garbage. Please. My email inbox is overflowing with stupidity, ya know what I mean?

            So, have a great day. We can totally learn from one another if we want to.

          • Truth Seeker

            I’ve tried. I spent two hours looking it up on google and yahoo, and heck, I even used the archaic bing. 😛
            But to no avail. It’s either extreme right wing sites, or extreme left wing sites. I even went so far as to go to the BLM website.

            The Atlantic.
            The Huffington Post.
            Politifact.
            Wikipedia (and we KNOW that can be trusted, right?)
            The list goes on and on, with all of the left-leaning sites ignoring the facts, and reporting opinions. It is a fact that it isn’t a peaceful protest when there’s a CNN reporter being thrown into a fire. Seriously, that kind of thing is being ignored.
            The right-leaning sites, report only the bad things, and continuously scream that BLM is a hate group.
            Made my head hurt.
            Okay. When you think about it, in any career, any job, any position, all the attaboys in the world don’t make up for that one “oh Sh*t!” Right?
            So no matter what good BLM may have done in the past, the current situation is just horrible. Whatever their original intent (bring to light brutality, prejudice, etc. against black people), the current situation of riots, violence, and yes, the deaths that happen every single day by blacks on blacks, and BLM does nothing . . . destroys their credibility.
            Think about that. A (hypothetical) Nobel prize winner for peace, who loves his fellow man, won’t be remembered for that when he slaughters his wife and kids. Right? So if BLM had the intent to bring knowledge, and acknowledgement of things happening, then the original organizers of BLM have failed, because they’ve done nothing to stop the violence. Nothing. Well, at least nothing being reported on the news anywhere.
            Have you seen anyone telling people to have a peaceful protest, after the fires, destruction, and looting starts? Yeah, me neither.
            Before you ask, or suggest, I don’t watch Fox news, I get my info from real news sources. I’m an independent.
            And so you know, I don’t call people of any race/ethnicity names, other than a**hole. Because in my eye, everyone who is a lowlife scumbag, is equally worthless. If person walked up to me in a store and said hello, I say hello back. Often times, I’m the one saying hello. I actually don’t care what a person’s color is.
            So as for hurling racial remarks, or just lowlife scumbag remarks, I don’t do it. I don’t need to. Heck, I’ve never felt the need to.
            Okay, I’ve used the term libtard a time or two, but that’s political, not racial. 😀

          • CHRISTO99

            Wow. First of all, I seriously appreciate your response. It’s new on here to disagree or agree like an adult.

            I happen to very much agree with you about BLM, ultimately. Their few victories, as significant as they were, are out shadowed by the ‘protests’ that result in beating on innocent newscasters, looting, etc. they’ve also made a name for themselves by interrupting people’s dinner at restaurants by barging in and screaming bullshit, and they’ve lost credibility in a million ways by neglecting to ever acknowledge anything that can or should be fixed by the black community themselves, and this is important. Any group that just focuses on the injustices they face without ever taking responsibility for their own failures ends up becoming a target, and this is self inflicted. I know this. You know this. I’ve said ‘shame on you’ to this ‘movement’ more times than I’ve said, ‘good job, guys.’
            As for the media, I get frustrated more than anyone with the media because yes, the liberal sights are absurdly biased just as much as the conservative sights. And the sad thing is that my liberal friends seem to only think the conservative media is outrageous with their bias, and my conservative friends think that only the left wing sites are biased. I get so f&$king frustrated with how intensely people get tunnel vision. It drives me insane. The comment sections at the huff post are just as ridiculous as the comment section here.
            I have plenty of my own faults, but I do know that if people would let their rational brain and ability to recognize logic ‘trump’ their egos when it comes to politics maybe we might start really making changes in this country.
            Maybe I’m letting my ego dictate some of my resolve here, but this Zimmerman thing is a real example. I don’t think Trayvon Martin was a hero, and I think he probably should have handled the situation better, but I’m horrified how nobody here will even seem to recognize the possibility that George Zimmerman is a piece of human garbage. The guy obviously was the aggressor. He obviously went after Martin. We’ve read the actual dialogue between him and the 911 dispatcher. We heard him say that he was going after Martin. We know he had a loaded gun. And the egos here have people suggesting insane things! Like, skittles are used for a drug cocktail of some sort? Hahaha. And Trayvon was the aggressor? My god. Why can’t we be reasonable? I’ll happily admit that Trayvon was no angel. But that’s not the issue at hand. Things just get so petty on every side when people start to feel the need to be right.

            I would probably be so much more susceptible to new ideas if the people who disagreed with me tried to make me see things their way instead of irrationally arguing anything possible to fight. And I’m guilty of it too.

            It’s really just god damn ridiculous, isn’t it?

          • Mitch Powell

            Tes. He is wrong, and you’re wrong too. You and libwithIQ are really part of the problem.

          • Truth Seeker

            Telling a person he or she is wrong, without proof, is asinine. Explain yourself, or you’ll be labeled another liberal troll. Without explanation of facts, figures, and proof, all you’re doing is giving out opinion. No one really cares about that. Then again, you believe wikilinks is a valid source for news, knowing full well that anyone can add or subtract information regularly. And seeing some of your regular posts, you are a liberal troll, only name calling, hurling insults, voicing your opinion, and not using anything of actual substance.
            Think on that for a while. Maybe you can see the light some day.

          • Eleanor Cummings

            The American blacks know how to use their computers to get the facts and have learned how the democrats have been controlling and using them for decades, starting with LBJ. . They don’t want more of the lies and broken promises the democrats use just to get their votes every four years. The blacks you see protesting are the lazy ones who earn money from the DNC and other sources demonstrating against the man who can and will redress a lot of the wrongs the democrats have done to blacks AND OTHER MINORITIES over the years when he is president. More and more are realizing they are Clinton’s “useful idiots” per Saul Alinsky.

        • Dave Grubbs

          Tell God when you see God that it was OK to riot.

          • implorable Randell

            thos kind will never see God. they go straight to hell, do not pass go but they will collect the hell out of that 200 bucks

          • Blythe Dolores

            What is wrong with you? YOU are the problem.

          • Dee

            I won’t because I don’t agree with the rioting. A protest should be peaceful.

          • Outtahereasap

            And when it isn’t, THEY ARE ANIMALS. It is a synonym, adjective to describe the behavior.

          • Jay Paradiso

            Okay but only after you hear from God on how he feels about the cops raping ,killing innocent people, planting evidence,child porn. Beating people in handcuffs and lying about the evidence. Be real careful calling in God becaude he may call out the the WHOLE truth,

          • Foo Schnickens

            They do this to both black and white people.It doesn’t strike you odd that you never hear about the white people being killed by cops on an almost daily basis.If BLM really cared about stopping the killings they would include the so called “privileged” whites into this who get killed at almost double the rate.But it wouldn’t look good on your street cred of being persecuted if you were to say worse is happening to whites nor would your leaders rake in the dough praying on ignorant peoples wallets..

        • WhatMeWorry

          It’s not wrong though, is it?? IS IT???????

          • Dee

            Not sure what you’re referring to.

        • libwithIQ

          Sorry sweetie. I call them like I see them. Doesn’t look like a BLM protest if a Walmart isn’t looted.

          • Dee

            I don’t agree with the riots and looting. A protest should be peaceful.

          • Frank Hoffman

            BLM. Blacks looting and murdering.

        • Dustin

          Dee , do you prefer BlackLyingMuthas ?

        • Shelby

          True, or not true?

        • Bruce_in_San_Jose

          …but accurate!

        • Ann

          Sick of people like you giving such terrorists a pass for their own ignorant and animalistic behavior.

        • Eleanor Cummings

          libwithIQ was just stating the facts. Watch the videos, they don’t lie.

      • WhatMeWorry

        Truth

        • Stacy

          That is a cute one & it sure seems to fit, doesn’t it??

          • Mitch Powell

            No.

          • Stacy

            Mitch Powell, apparently you missed the video where Barack was making a speech to the generals. I think it is sick that we have a homosexual president & that it doesn’t seem to bother or offend others. It is most certainly against my Christian values & I am not sorry about that, in the least.

          • Stacy

            Not sure how someone would disagree that Blacks Looting Markets is NOT fitting…lol. When a black criminal is shot, do they not protest over it & a few get killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time AGAIN & then they “LOOT” & “DESTROY” & set things on fire, AGAIN?!? And then they wonder why police are on high alert! ??? I am sorry, but I have no mercy for someone who illegally carries a gun! Nor a man who has a long line of charges including threatening his wife & child with a gun! This guys record went all the way back to the early 90’s WITH guns! I am sorry, but if you have no respect for authority that risks their lives every day for our safety & the safety of these criminals, I have trouble finding respect for them. And I don’t think that their should be racial groups representing those who do. You don’t deserve a free pass because of the color of your skin, but, it seems they are given one. This man was a known “attempted” cop killer who obviously had no problem pulling a gun on anyone. Knowing that & knowing that he was mental due to an accident & pulled a gun on his own blood reassures me that he is now where he should’ve been long ago. The BLM blows too many things out of proportion!

      • Lola

        Isn’t that the damn truth!!

      • Jean Daniel

        Yeah, and White America have such white privilege until the only thing that causes them to riot and destroy things is when they loose a football game, then it not a riot, it’s just young white people letting off a little steam.Hypocrites

        • libwithIQ

          White privilege my a$$. Whites have the “privilege” of working their butts off and supporting the welfare crowd. And yes, those clowns that riot over sports games are stupid. But if you will check, they are not all white. You are delusional, naive or just flat out stupid.

          • Outtahereasap

            Agree. Statistics don’t lie.

      • Sharon Harrison

        You’re ignorant because it was more white people looting and tearing down this racist cities area so i guess it really stands for Bigots Looting Markets!!!

        • libwithIQ

          Please show all the video of the white looters. Please show the links to all the news stories about white looters. Let’s just disregard all the CNN video showing the black looters. All the tweets videos showing black looters. All the independent news sources with video and photos showing black looters. I really think BLM means Blacks Losing Minds.

      • 1agd

        Whites were in on the action too.

      • Veronica Brown

        Yet, riots over a sports game by white people is justifiable. Whatever.

      • Mitch Powell

        It really appears that you are part of the problem.

        • libwithIQ

          It appears you are naive, delusional or just ignorant of the circumstances. Do yo always go around commenting on things from 3 days ago? Keep up.

      • Eleanor Cummings

        They are the ‘Saul Alinsky’s ”useful idiots” for the democrats. George Sores funds them; Obama and Clinton use them. They are fooled by their bosses!

        BOMBSHELL – Leaked Memo Reveals How Democrats REALLY Feel About Black Americans

        Leaked Pelosi Email Exposes Democrats Duplicity Towards Black Lives Matter01ThursdaySep 2016

        Posted by bydesign001 in Election 2016

        https://pumabydesign001.com/2016/09/01/leaked-pelosi-email-exposes-democrats-duplicity-towards-black-lives-matter/

        Pelosi’s blm-memo, leaked by Guccifer 2.0

        by Maureen Dowling

        https://www.scribd.com/document/322685668/Pelosi-s-blm-memo-leaked-by-Guccifer-2-0

        Will Hillary Ditch Black Lives Matter?

        July 15, 2016 AFP By Patrick J. Buchanan —

        • Black Lives Matter . . . is pure hatred, and as it is directed against white cops, racist.

        Clinton/Obama’s BLM is similar to Hitler’s Brown Shirts, a paramilitary group that were his “useful idiots” during his take-over of Germany. I wonder if they know that after Hitler no longer needed them he had them all liquidated from June 30 to July 2, 1934, and many of those killed were leaders of the Brown Shirts organization . It was called Night of the Long Knives.

        If these BLM fools think it’s any different for them than it was for the Brown Shirts, and that Clinton, Obama and/or Soros and cohorts wouldn’t throw them under the bus, they’re as stupid as the Brown Shirts were. Hitler saw the independence of the Brown Shirts and their penchant for street violence as a direct threat to his political power, so he moved on them and their leaders and had them executed. Some of his longtime supporters and allies were also killed to establish complete power to Hitler only.A PARTIAL lists:
        http://www.nachumlist.com/dead

        google “clinton kill list” and you’ll get pages of descriptives with names and circumstances. And STILL counting!

        Does this killing off of the opposition sound familiar?? Hmmm?

        Reply Forward

      • Ryan Smith

        #2 is false. Frame by frame forwarding clearly shows no gun in hand. You can clearly see both right and left hand is empty. Best assessment of the released videos so far:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s26XXSML00A

    • Jennie Marie

      Well, slowing down for the facts to emerge would mean they might not get that 50″ flat-screen from the Walmart looting. They can’t have that happening!

    • William Beaux Baggins

      To whom are you praying? If it’s the God I pray to, you should remember that if you aren’t trying to be forgiving, then He won’t forgive you (Mark 11:25). You should remember that if you’re ignoring the way He asks you to live, then God finds your prayers “detestable” or “an abomination” (Proverbs 28:9. The way that He asks you to live is to “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” (Matthew 5:43-48) and to “Bless those who persecute you. Bless and do not curse.” (Romans 12:14).

      I get being angry about people handling perceived injustices with violence. It’s wrong. I’m also angry when people won’t see facts, when people believe lies and then react to that belief with violence. It’s easy to respond to them with hatred and inward violence, reducing them to something less than human (“animals”). It’s hard to show love (“The way that lead to life is narrow and difficult.” – Matthew 7:14) but with God’s help, we can do it.

      • HDLadee

        Facts don’t matter to these fools and most definitely God doesn’t either… sadly ???? If God were still in our homes and schools these folks wouldn’t be acting like animals.

      • Jim Bingley

        Yea,
        I believe in “God” and try to be a good person with morals and values, but your mindset of being murdered like a sheep instead of fighting like the true christian soldier of earlier times is just plain ignorance.

        • William Beaux Baggins

          I’m not sure where you come from, belief-wise, so I don’t know how to answer you except to say that I didn’t say anything about being “murdered like a sheep.” Which “true Christian soldier(s) of earlier times” are you referring to?

        • Linda Byrom

          Would that be the true christian soldiers of the Spanish inquisition or the Crusaders?

          • Curtis

            Of the Biblical era.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Wouldn’t be a selective thinking old idiot, athiest, would you? Spanish Inquisition, Crusaders? You have to go back 700 and 970 years to find something of note to tar whites or Christians with, eh? Communists killed 120 million people among all the countries of the world less than 100 years ago! Muslim since the Inception of their “religion” have killed 250 million people in the name of Mohammed. The Inquisition was a pimple on a Black Plague victim. 125,000 persons were investigated by the Spanish Inquisition, of which 1.8% were executed. The small number doesn’t mean it was justifiable, but don’t be a moron about the scale of guilt for genocide and who is responsible.

          • Jim Bingley

            The crusaders. The ones that fought off the muslim devils.

      • Outtahereasap

        Knock it off. When people behave like wild animals they deserve the label. Too much instruction on how to speak here. We have told our kids for years “stop behaving like animals” when they fight or tear through the house shouting. You people are so full of yourselves with this assinine lecture.

        • William Beaux Baggins

          …except that when parents refer to their kids as animals, there’s still love behind it. We both know this is different.

    • Jeff Clayton

      You’re calling humans animals? Shame on you, you sick person.

      • Diane Markley

        Are they acting like humans or are they acting like animals?

        • Dee

          Let someone murder your son, father, or brother and see what you act like! So ignorant!

          • Truth Seeker

            Ah, now I see. You’re another liberal troll, simply attempting to show how right you are, by hurling insults. Typical. Answer her question. Someone DID murder my brother. I let the law handle it, they were convicted of “Attempted” murder, and released after a year. Street justice took over, and the three animals who murdered my brother, were all three paralyzed. Not one of the three animals were black, neither were they white. But until you have to go through actually losing someone in your life, then all you are doing is fanning the flames of ignorance.
            All that being said, DJV is an ignorant person. More than likely prejudiced. I call them like I see them, and I say the people who riot for opportunity, rather than justice, aren’t animals, they’re scumbags and lowlife pieces of crap.
            Animals don’t riot. Not even cats.

          • Dee

            I agree. I believe a protest should be peaceful. Two wrongs never make a right. Sorry for your loss.

          • Outtahereasap

            Taking the law into your own hands is nothing to brag about. You use the term animals when it suits you. Animals are out of control when there is an opportunity they seek. Wild animals especially. It is a common phrase for uncontrolled violent behavior. Stop trying to make it PC when you already used it yourself.

          • Truth Seeker

            I never said I took the law into my hands. My uncle actually did. He and the rest of his gang.
            As for my term used of “animals”, I actually typed something worse, but auto correct turned it to animals. =/
            Meant to say a**holes. 😀

          • cattin2

            Really murder? You were there? You should step up and talk to police.

          • Dee

            I would if I trusted them.

          • Curtis

            Well then you’ll always have your reason to defend the criminal.

            Why don’t you strap on the boots and go BE the change you want? It’s always easy to point at someone else as the reason for your misery. It’s a whole different matter when you’re tasked with fixing it yourself.

          • Dee

            I would never defend a criminal unless that was my profession. You don’t know me but I strive daily to BE the change I want and I am never miserable. I like the man I see in the mirror. #kingskid

          • Jay Paradiso

            Any level of trust extended to the police today just because they are cops is naieve and dangerous.

          • selena

            I’m making an assumption here – you trust Hillary Clinton? Am I right?

          • WhatMeWorry

            Well, I wouldn’t fuckin loot, that’s for godamn sure.

          • Dee

            Me either.

          • Ken Anderson

            Dee- If it’s true that he had a gun, pointed at police, he could expect to be shot.

          • Dee

            That is true but did he really have a gun? If not, what did he deserve?

          • Jonathan Miller

            Why would they have even paid attention to him if he didn’t have a firearm?

          • libwithIQ

            It’s not murder if you are stupid enough to confront a police officer while carrying a gun and then not dropping it when directed to. It’s pure stupidity. Unfortunately the stupid die.

          • Susan Cadwell

            It is tragic they lost their father, son, brother, family member – no doubt. That said, do not tell me that rioting, looting and putting other lives in danger is ever appropriate or acceptable. I will say the looters acted in a very animalistic way – plan and simple. Certainly not all people who were upset acted that way, there were people protesting – which is a lawful thing to do…. when they crossed the line to committing crimes, that is inexcusable.

          • Dee

            Susan,
            I would never tell you that rioting and looting are OK. I believe that a protest should be peaceful. I agree with you 100%.

          • Woodsman

            Murder? Really? Anyone who points a gun at a cop needs to be removed from the gene pool.

      • WhatMeWorry

        Act like an animal…

      • Hate to tell you, but man is a part of the animal kingdom; some act it more than others regardless of race. Get over it.. We still have primitive instincts and behavior’s embedded in our DNA.

        • Jeff Clayton

          A bunch of geniuses here. Does it bother you that your worldview will be gone as soon as you cave people die out?

          • So are you saying that humans don’t have “animal instincts” Jeff?

          • Jonathan Miller

            Cave people are pointing guns at cops and looting Wally World….

      • Enchanted1

        And what….I call muslims sub-human, does that need debate also?

        • Jeff Clayton

          No it doesn’t, because you’re too stupid to talk to. Asshole.

      • She Chism

        BEHAVE LIKE SANE-THINKING HUMANS,
        OR ACT LIKE CHIMPANZEE MOB, AS THEY ARE
        WELL NAMED. 1. AFRICAN AMERICAN? OR 2.AMERICAN CITIZENS?
        PICK . IF YOU’VE NEVER BEEN TO AFRICA, OR YOUR MAMA, FATHER,OR GRANDPARENTS, 2 SHOULD BE YOUR ANSWER. !

      • US Goon

        Not humans, merely sub-humans meant to be destroyed when no longer useful.

      • Outtahereasap

        The behavior of looters and rioters is animalistic. Shame on you for trying to glorify that behavior

    • Dee

      Animals? It’s people like you that escalate these problems. You’re sorry that the officers were injured but don’t seem bothered that a life was lost! You’re pathetic!

      • Dave Grubbs

        It is a fact that blacks are not like all other races.

        They are emotionally out of control, they are easily moved to violence, they are attracted to immoral behavior, they even look less like humans and more like apes.

        No other race on the planet wants to live around blacks.

        Truth cannot be wrong but it does hurt those that cling to lies instead.

        • Ken Anderson

          Moses, Abraham, David, Solomon, Joseph and Jesus- all black. Google
          “Shrine to Black Madonna- Poland”

          • Jonathan Miller

            Jews aren’t black…

            Kanye isn’t Jesus…so get off your knees.

        • Jeff Clayton

          You are a caveperson. You’ll be gone soon (of natural causes). I will wait.

        • Dee

          You’re a sad little man.

      • WhatMeWorry

        What a fucking piece if SHIT you are. You fucking ANIMAL!!!

        • Dee

          I’m not an animal. I’m human like you. I’m so sad for you. May God bless you.

          • WhatMeWorry

            May Alanis make you not a racist prick and much smarter than you are.

    • Mike

      The animals? Fuck off and die you no good racist piece of shit. There is nothing good about who you are or what you believe. Do us all a favor and take yourself out. You are nothing but a drag on your betters.

      • Truth Seeker

        So hurling insults and profanity makes you the better, eh? Believe it or not, it makes you the fool, and you lost any credible argument. Even though I may agree that DJV is ignorant as hell, and shouldn’t breed, you still lost your credibility.
        To prove my point, you’re going to insult me, as well, no doubt.

      • Dave Grubbs

        It is a fact that blacks are not like all other races.

        They are emotionally out of control, they are easily moved to violence, they are
        attracted to immoral behavior, they even look less like humans and more
        like apes.

        No other race on the planet wants to live around blacks.

        Truth.

        • Linda Byrom

          What an evil heart and mind that you have. Shame!

          • StinkyTom

            Why tell the truth make him have ‘an evil heart and mind’?

        • cattin2

          You really are the epitome of racism.

        • Outtahereasap

          I absolutely adore Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Condaleeza Rice, Allen West, my other lesser known good friends, just to name a few…..
          They have shown they found the true American Dream and prove equality exists in equal opportunity, not in handouts or free passes for violent protests.

      • Linda Byrom

        Your mommy and daddy must be so proud of your command of gutter language and attitude.

      • Dee

        Mike,
        There are some very sad people on here. We shouldn’t waste our time with this.

    • xiromisho

      It doesn’t help your narrative in anyway to refer to protesters as animals… just… putting that out there ~_~ (In fact it completely invalidates it).

      • Outtahereasap

        The same holds true for Muslims, or whites, or anywhere. Animalistic to loot and riot, and injure people.

    • elissalf

      Your racism is disgusting. You sicken me.

      • John J Rouse

        Your bad black behavior disgust the rest of us.

    • Jean Daniel

      Why do they have to be animals? I would like to see any other race on this planet that is subjected to the brutality, hanging, injustice, inequality and racism that Black and Brown people all over the world has suffered at the hands of the white man and survive. We know the white man can’t do it, he had to go across the water and steal a stronger people to work his land.

      • DJV

        If you knew history, black people sold the other blacks into slavery so I’d read up. No “white man went across the water to steal people”. Strong maybe, at looting and acting like animals.

      • Outtahereasap

        What! The wonderful tribal leaders sold their own into slavery or it would never have happened !!!

    • Denise Parker

      Can you not disagree with people or make an intelligent point without resorting to name calling? People are angry and I would agree that violence and destruction is not the answer. But calling human beings animals makes you sound racist and destroys your credility. In short, you have no room to talk about others when you add to and are part of the problem.

      None of this is going to magically go away. We do have some bad apples to weed out. Refusing to acknowledge that and protecting every officer from consequences regardless of their actions is a large part of what has gotten us I to this mess. We all need to be held accountable for our actions without regard to race, income, status or occupation. When that becomes the norm we will have achieved equality. It can’t happen without fair and impartial policing. But it also requires all citizens to be fair and to demand fairness. Officers deserve to be treated fairly. But so does Everyman and Everywoman on the street. All of us. Guilty or innocent. We need respect for the constitution. Respect for American law and it’s principles. Officers may have to shoot to protect themselves and that is reasonable. Resorting to lethal force in some places or with some officers seems to be the first choice. Bad police work and bad officers only make it harder for good officers to do good police work.

      I don’t think it’s right to twist the story. But I also think there has been a lot of story twisting on all sides. I think black America have been victims of too much twisting for too long. They aren’t going away and they aren’t shutting up. We need real solutions. And name calling, racial insults, are not going to do anything except escalate the problem. Let’s not do that.

      • Outtahereasap

        Get over it with your PC touchy feely worthless lecture that shows your ignorance.
        Rioters and looters are animals. They also harm people physically. THEY ARE ANIMALS! Nothing you blather will change that fact. You are encouraging that behavior with your words. You aren’t victims of white crime you are victims of black crime. That is a fact. Asian communities and Hispanic communities nor Indian communities have crime anywhere near the level of what black communities do to each other. Why is that? You want me to say civil disobedience when the behavior is animalistic? You eat your own!

    • Angel

      Did u say animals? Black people are not animals… I’m black and educated and very well off. It would be wrong to classify all White people as trash now wouldn’t it…. Damn those cops they didn’t think about the people they executed

      • DJVIGIL

        The looters and rioters are animals! They don’t care about the facts, they want free stuff and to destroy property. The peaceful protestors have a cause and should look at facts too.

      • Outtahereasap

        The rioters, looters, are animals. Nothing was said about race.

    • 1agd

      You did see that some Whites were rioting and breaking windows too.

      • DJV

        I said the looters were animals, not what color the looters were. You’re the one putting race into it.

    • TCG

      Animals? Who exactly are you referring to because I don’t see any rabbit, deer, bears, or anything that resembles an animal. All I see are humans.

    • Ah Got Somethin Ta Say!

      I’m sad that so many people like you exist on this planet. Dishonest racist piece of shit.

    • Jake

      “Animals?” Are you serious? That’s some Jim Crow level evil right there. I do hope you pray- long and hard- because there is no way Jesus approves of this bigotry, and you need some time with Him to see your fellow humans as equals.

    • UNCMoose187

      The same can be said for the cops since they seem to be having a hard time figuring out what exactly happened and how a man ended up dead in the streets for seemingly no reason.

    • Mitch Powell

      You’re a real piece of work. Animals? I’m praying for you. You are seriously messed up.

    • Angilina Gray Gray

      The animals are those who senseless keep killing black men without a reason but for being poor Blacks in the wrong place.Those people you prick call animals want what every human being demands.Justice.

      • John LaRoche

        Stop causing most of the crimes!

    • Ryan Smith

      #2 is false. Frame by frame forwarding clearly shows no gun in hand. You can clearly see both right and left hand is empty. Best assessment of the released videos so far:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s26XXSML00A

      • Ryan Smith

        The black officer shot Keith, which is what is really odd because he is behind the SUV to Keith’s left and arguably has the worst possible line of sight compared to all the other officers. In all of the videos, he is only really seen approaching well after the shooting.

        I have no idea why he shot, as anyone who watches the dashcam video can see Keith posed no threat at that moment. But it is interesting to note that if you slow down the dashcam video and watch, he shoots the instant Keith turns his head and looks at him. To me, that says adrenaline fueled panic. And if you watch the officer in red at the moment of the shooting, he flinches in surprise, as if he wasn’t sure who was shooting – again, because in that moment there was no reason for his fellow officers to shoot Keith.

        I also agree that Keith exiting and walking backwards does make perfect sense when you consider the position of the police – he appears to be backing up into open space to submit and show he was no threat. While it’s legitimate for people to ask why he didn’t raise his hands or get down on the ground, to my knowledge no such commands were given – they certainly can’t be heard on the videos. Let’s also not forget that this was a person with a traumatic brain injury, he may have been confused and unsure of what was happening, especially if he was on medication.

        As for the officer in red appearing to take the gun and sliding it behind him as the video seems to show, it’s highly unusual, if not suspicious. Some have tried to assert that the gun was actually in Keith’s hand pinned under his body, and that’s where the officer in red grabbed it from, but that is absurd in my opinion.

        Keith had only hit the ground seconds ago, if the officer in red thought even for a second that he was armed, with the gun still in his hand, he would never have approached so nonchalantly. No, he and his fellow officers would have very slowly approached, with screams of “put your hands behind your back!!!” and so on. We’ve all see such videos.

        No, the officer in red approaches very quickly, with little concern. And in my opinion, that’s because he knows, he CAN SEE, the gun is still in the holster. He had the BEST line of sight during the entire event, and knew Keith did not have a gun in his hand.

        He may have pulled the gun out of the ankle holster as protocol, for safety. However, the fact is that would still mean they knew it was a bad shoot and the whole thing has been a cover up. They didn’t set out to kill anyone, as is almost always the case. That being said, if what I asserted in this video is what happened, then there really is no question about maliciousness, they attempted to cover up the truth. – rob8910

  • Haligonex

    Open carry States will likely be exempt from these shotings as everyone has the right to carry a firearm. That is my take on the subject. A nightmare in USA.

    • bb10

      Its different when you’re open carrying with the gun IN YOUR HOLSTER compared to where this man had the gun IN HIS HAND threatening officers. Get your facts straight.

  • RayScott

    Now will any of you white morons get all of the facts straight about the Dylan Taylor shooting? The officer (Bron Cruz) was HISPANIC not Black as you racist inbreeds have claimed. There is no “black cop” in UTAH.

    • budfudlacker

      I love it when racist people call other people racist. Nice one, Ray.

      • RayScott

        So, can you offer us an example on how one should approach situations like what happened in charlotte? (without using racism)

        • mike

          Wait for the facts to come out don’t take some ones word that was not even there CMPD wears body cams wait for the truth

          • RayScott

            I bet you the body cams will somehow “malfunction” before it’s released. Why take the CMPD’s word for it either? I’ll wait for the Justice Departments investigation.

          • mike

            You do know that the officer was a black female that pulled the trigger don’t you

          • RayScott

            Not black “female”. Male/Black. And even if he is black, WHERE’S THE FOOTAGE. I expect them to try and bury this.

          • mike

            Why not just wait and see they will have to release the footage I had great respect for Charlottes black community the way they handled things in the past but this might change my mind

          • RayScott

            They could give a shit less if your mind is changed. We wan’t to see the footage like the Tulsa incident.

          • mike

            And indeed you should you have the right to and if Mr Scott was innocent than the cop should be charged with murder but why not wait for the facts

          • RayScott

            We are. Where’s the transparency?

          • mike

            That’s what the American people have been asking for years wish I had the answers to that one

    • supr squirrel

      Talks about ‘making race relations better’ and refers to people as ‘white morons.’ Gotcha.

    • Pamelita243
      • RayScott

        Officer Bron “CRUZ” is not black.

        • mike

          So he wasn’t black but he wasn’t white either so why do you blame whites for his actions

          • RayScott

            When did I blame whites for the shooting anything? Get your facts straight, idiot. He’s HISPANIC not BLACK.

          • mike

            Well when you use the term WHITE MORONS in your comments what am I supposed to think?

          • RayScott

            You’re supposed to think of WHITE MORONS. If you do not fit this category, IT DOES NOT APPLY. Guilty conscience.

          • mike

            Not mine I treat everyone with respect no matter what their skin tone happens to be after all we are all brothers in the eyes of the Lord

          • Me

            Who in their right mind would believe this girl anyway? She wasn’t even at the scene. Someone needs to spank her butt and wash her mouth out. She is really disrespectful and honestly quite disgusting.

          • RayScott

            Whites talk back to their parents everyday so don’t act like you haven’t seen “disrespect”

          • Me

            You are assuming I am white? Why is that? Regardless of color she is disgraceful in her choice of words. I am sure her mother isn’t proud, but then again maybe that’s how she was raised to disrespect people cause that’s all her video did. If she were really traumatized by her father’s death she would be upset not worrying about her 5 minutes of fame and placing blame trying to get a rise out of her thug friends. Totally class less.

          • RayScott

            Placing Blame where? Why are you more concerned about what a girl is saying than the actual incident. I assume your white because you haven’t shown me otherwise.

          • Me

            So I am white by the words I choose to use it don’t use. I blame the girl for all her lies that she told that got the city in an uproar, caused innocent people to be affected by her poor choice of words and a city to be torn apart because she is going down the wrong path.

            All I can say is “convicted felon with a fire arm”. He knew he was in the wrong. The police deserve to protect themselves just like we do. And who do you think the people of the apartment complex will be calling when the guy the police were going after breaks into one of their apartments the guys in blue. They deserve respect, and those people that are parents need to teach their kids respect your elders and those of authority. Otherwise, risk the consequences.

          • RayScott

            How can we respect authority when they don’t have respect for us?

    • Karl Christen

      No Ray, you are the Moron.. there are a number of black officers in the sLPD and a few in other departments. You really look like a douche bag when you make comments like the one you just posted.

      • RayScott

        How is officer Bron Cruz black?

    • Jecmenek

      So…ALL white people are inbred or just people you disagree with?
      Just trying to pinpoint where your hypocrisy on racism begins and ends.
      You are clearly not doing your part for race relations- as you’re engaging in the exact same behavior as a Klansman or Panther.
      You’re making judgements and applying stereotypes to individuals based on their skin color- simply because they chose to look for and listen to facts. Facts don’t care about your feelings.
      Changing the subject to another shooting- which has been settled, despite how we might feel it should have gone- doesn’t make this one the same thing. Taylor didn’t have a gun- but the officer had reason to believe he had one based on reports he heard while investigating a situation. The facts there are different. Are there screw ups? Yes. Is it all cops or even close to the majority? No. In that moment when they feel threatened- they are the same as any other human- they’re reactionary- full on self-preservation mode. Mistakes happen. If an unarmed black man gets killed while robbing a house, it’s not “riots in the streets”…it’s self defense. It’s the same scenario- different environment.
      If you had a gun pulled on you- and you had a gun for self defense- would you wait to see if they were going to shoot? Would you try and talk them out of shooting you? Even money says you shoot- even if you don’t see a gun- just a bigger,stronger, irate opponent making you feel threatened…or a young,spry individual bowing up and threatening you- ESPECIALLY if they know you have a gun and are still doing it…you’d shoot.
      If this “open season on black people” narrative were true, we wouldn’t have stories like this one, with riotous actions afterward.
      The morning headline would read
      “Officers intercede in gang war- forty dead after deadly shoot out”.
      If the thin blue line can’t cover up a mass shooting of an entire group of rioters- where they control all the evidence- then maybe it’s not really the problem?
      Maybe that’s not happening because- maybe- good people of all races go out every day- put on a shiny target- and stand between civilization and violence.
      Seems to me that all these protest and riots in the name of “black lives matter” negatively effect the black population disproportionately- which is criteria for them to call things “racism” or “racist”- so in their actions are they not the actual racists? They hate white people and cops so much- they’re out there destroying black owned businesses, homes, and neighborhoods. So blacks are made the real victims of BLM.
      This is par for the course as a cop is 18% more likely to die by the hands of a black man than they are for a black man to be killed by them. The number one killer of young black men is young black men- that wins exponentially.
      The reason blacks are protesting the cops- they know they won’t be shot without cause.
      Otherwise…why not protest the gangs and other criminal elements in black communities?
      Oh- blacks don’t actually like to be shot indiscriminately. They would prefer to protest via the safest route- where they’re less likely to be shot. Studies prove that cops are more likely to hesitate before shooting a member of the minority. This gives the “privilege” over to minorities. No one cares if the cops shoot white people- they do it more often and in a higher percentage than they do blacks.
      Fix the culture of the community that’s killing itself through violence (and abortion) before going after the only people out there willing to fight for the safety of the black community. That’s like going to a prison and protesting the guards or the walls existence- even though they’re all that’s standing between you and a bunch of violent criminals. It makes no sense.

      • RayScott

        So why are more cops being shot (and killed) by white folks. I don’t get it. By your logic, Every time a white person gets shot by a cop all we have to do is bring up white-on-white crime (which is at 87%) and everything will be OK.

    • mike

      So was Zimmerman but whites was blamed for that also why not blame the Hispanics

      • RayScott

        Because whites can be hispanic too, you know.

        • mike

          I call BS on that one that’s just a reason to riot burn and loot

        • Outtahereasap

          No. Bureau of statistics break out Hispanics, too. Nice try

    • Sorry Ray but you didn’t check the web. . . Pic of SLC PD
      http://img.deseretnews.com/images/article/mcontentimage/1176165/1176165.jpg

      Open it & you’ll see two officers of color on the far right, top row.

      • RayScott

        TWO? Only TWO black cops. What are the odds that taylor got shot by a white or hispanic cop compared to a black cop? By the way, Bron Cruz is HISPANIC, idiot.

        • I didn’t mention any name Ray, you were the one who said there were no black cops in Utah.
          I also haven’t called you any names or adressed you in a derogatory way. . . .
          I have been respectful all along.

          • RayScott

            Just for one second google “Bron Cruz” Not “black” but Hispanic.

          • Don’t care Ray, you were the one who said there were no “black” cops in Utah.
            I drove big rig all over the western states. I’ve been stopped by cops in SLC & other places in Utah.
            I knew you were wrong.

  • budfudlacker

    Smh…when are they going to realize that rioting isn’t going to solve their problems? ***shake my head***

    Another tragic loss for the “Black community”…Perhaps non-Liberal news outlets should post the daily numbers of Black males murdered by their fellow Black males to really put the ubiquitous ‘Black Lives Matter’ slogan in proper perspective? No other ilk in this nation is so thoroughly devoted to killing one another—and yet they dare to hold up signs that read: “BLACK LIVES MATTER”!!!! …apparently black lives don’t matter to blacks, because blacks killing each other is routine and predictive. In large cities a huge percentage of annual killings are black on black but very little is said about this appalling state of affairs—no banner headline admonishing blacks to stop killing one-another. The otherwise hyper-vigilant liberal media imposes a gag-order on any informed discussion of black crime and the fratricide that is its signature. Black leaders such as Sharpton won’t touch this issue for obvious reasons: they line their pockets by providing cover and comfort for black crime by blaming it on white culture. The hypocrisy here is painfully obvious, but most people are conditioned to ignore the truth for fear of being called a racist or bigot!! If we want to play-up the spate of police shootings of black men, let’s open up the dialogue to include the stunned silence on the part of otherwise vocal black leaders like Jackson and Sharpton when it comes to addressing the epidemic criminal-dysfunction associated with black urban culture in America, and the routine finger pointing that invariably accompanies it.

    Following the Civil-Rights period, the majority of blacks have not only failed to establish a collective upward mobility, teaching the value of education and hard work, they have deteriorated into an aggressively non-assimilative criminal sub-culture, subsisting on public entitlements, and relentlessly blaming white-culture for their inability to transcend their own economic exile. The question that demands to be asked is to what extent black culture holds itself accountable for its present state, and those broad negative perceptions associated with it????

  • tammie

    Who cares about silly little things like the facts or truth??? It does not fit the narrative that needs to be out there, No one is ever guilty of anything,My son is an amazing boy who would not think of doing anything bad, He is a straight A student, He was getting his life together, My Daddy had no gun, You all are planting one out there now, His hands were up, My son would never fight with the police, I can go on , When will it be DO NOT POINT A GUN IF YOU DO NOT WANT SHOT! Do not fight with an officer if you do not want knocked down! Do not run from the police if you do not wear tight pants, and are not an Olympic sprinter , you will be caught and again be knocked down! I was broke down on the side of an expressway at 3 in the morning , Police pulled in behind me, I was on the passenger side, I had got in on that side after trying to fix my flat and did not want to go out near the traffic, The officers approached with guns out, they asked where was the driver, I told them it was me, they asked questions, I answered, Near the end of encounter we were smiling and they asked if I would be ok until the tow truck got there, Know why it went this way ? Because I just answered their questions and showed a little respect to other humans just doing their jobs.

  • Salley Port

    This makes me so sad, she is angry because her father has been killed. I get that, and in her circumstance, alot of us may react the same way. She is lashing out..I get it… BUT having said that, what does rioting, looting, destruction, have to do with race relations. Except to maybe divide the races more. if the cop that killed this man is guilty of wrong doing – then we as a people will bring him to justice, but destroying entire neighborhoods/towns is not the answer.

  • mooslimME

    the perps daughter just confirming what an animal they are….opps….I mean mufuckin animal

  • Georgia Dawgs

    At 59:07 in the daughter’s video she shot live on Facebook she said she was asleep when she heard the shots fired. She was the main source spreading the narrative that her dad was just sitting in the vehicle reading a book: https://youtu.be/FFRIbmUb83U?t=59m5s
    In addition, she states several times that her dad did not have a gun, but at 46:11 she says we’ve got guns too https://youtu.be/FFRIbmUb83U?t=46m9s and again at 47:32 when retelling her made up narrative (because she was sleeping and did not witness it) she once again questioned what gun her dad had and said she would show them one: https://youtu.be/FFRIbmUb83U?t=47m10s. In regards to the disabled claim, this all took place before 4 PM. It seems there are plenty of able bodied men in the apartment complex during peak working hours. Just because the daughter said her dad was disabled does not make it true, in her own video she contradicts herself several times.

  • Bill

    RayScott do you give a sit about the murder of officer Doug Barney who got shot and killed responding to a traffic accident? Nope you don’t care because the perl was also white, if it don’t concern a black your big mouth stays shut…amazing.

  • Phil me Cracken

    It’s just another case
    Of a dindu nuffin getting it’s just deserts

  • Xigxag

    The BLM is a Anti-Police organization funded by the Atheist George Soros. BLM, ARE the Criminals that the Police arrest everyday, for the protection of good communities. They prey on the uneducated & Ill-Informed to join their ranks. Now we know why college kids are involved. They fit both of those criteria. The athlete’s? Well, they fit both of those criteria as well (one, or the other, or both).

    • libwithIQ

      It’s not an official BLM protest until a Walmart gets looted.

  • budfudlacker

    A white man, shot and killed by cops 9-15-16. Social media and MSM – not a word.

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/names-of-officers-released-in-fatal-shooting-of-disabled-veteran-in/2293888

    Another white man, killed by cops 9-14-16. Social media and MSM – not a word.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-force-use-carjacking-suspect-mcdonalds-20160914-snap-story.html

    Here’s a doozie. White man dies while in police protective custody 9/7/16. They shocked him with a Taser when he resisted their attempts to handcuff him. He died shortly after. Degraw, a veteran of the Gulf war, was reportedly being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder.

    Social media and MSM – not a word.

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/pinellas-sheriffs-office-investigating-death-of-oldsmar-man-under/2292707

    White man, shot and killed by cops 8-30-16. Social media and MSM – not a word.

    http://www.kxxv.com/story/32909153/helicopter-looking-for-suspects-in-deputy-involved-shooting

    Hispanic man killed 8/25/16. Social media and MSM – not a word.

    A family is seeking answers and justice after a 32-year-old man was fatally shot by an FBI agent Thursday night at his mother’s home in Compton.

    Agents with the FBI’s SWAT team in Los Angeles were serving a warrant at the home located on South White Avenue, when an agent fired at a man after an altercation, FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said in a statement.

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Man-Fatally-Shot-by-FBI-Agent-in-Compton-391482901.html#ixzz4KqqB4UP2 

    White man, shot and killed by cops 8-24-16. Social media and MSM – not a word.

    “Sheriff Terry Gilbert said the Cooke County Sheriff’s Office was requested by the Saint Jo Police Department to assist with a pursuit crossing over into Cooke County from Montague County shortly before 10 p.m. Tuesday.

    The shooting occurred before deputies were able to engage in any activity, Gilbert said.”

    http://www.gainesvilleregister.com/community/suspect-dead-in-officer-involved-shooting/article_23b34f48-6ad5-11e6-b54c-33a922e0edaf.html

    – Noticing a pattern here? Black man get’s shot by cops, MSM and social media has wall to wall coverage. White or Hispanics shot by cop – crickets. Why? Doesn’t fit into the narrative that cops are racist and are focused on killing black men.

  • MRV Investments. Inc

    Wait……

    I thought NC was an Open Carry State? He made the weapon visible TWICE to the officers and he was still shot?
    Forget the family narrative, for a minute and lets go with the facts that the Police have stated so far…….

    He showed the weapon to LEO TWICE, but didn’t threaten them the first time?

    This HAS to raise questions of a bad shoot. It seems from the Police account that he was actually complying with the law!!!

    • MRV Investments. Inc

      It seems like some here are justifying this shoot based ON race, rather than the facts………..

    • Outtahereasap

      showing it holstered with your hands up, is not the same thing as brandishing it in your hand. Open carry means you can carry holstered without hiding it with a jacket or on your ankle under pants. You assume he had it by the barrel with the chamber open and handing it over. Wrong.

  • James Miller

    Such nice language. I wonder if she eats with that same mouth?

  • Jordan Williams

    Smh, here we go again

  • Tom Reinheimer

    Reading a book? He probably couldn’t read too.

    • denimdingo

      On what basis are you making that assertion?

  • rodzwc1 .

    whatever properly damage, personal injury, death etc. that occurs because of their misinfirmation, they should be held accountable for.

  • Dennis Johnson

    BLACK LIVES MATTER!……………..As long as there is free sh!+ involved

  • Blase

    Before calling these “facts,” can we establish some kind of evidence to prove these assertions? At this point the media has run with a totally different narrative, so in order to convince people of the counter-narrative I’m going to have to see something pretty conclusive.

    • Outtahereasap

      So you will accept the family lies and media mushed up bs as the truth until somebody proves them wrong? Hmmm, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? If you don’t trust the justice system then leave.

  • McGillicutty

    “Secret Societies have a great motto ‘Ordo Ab Chao’ meaning ‘Order Out of Chaos’. Agendas are formulated designed to give the powerful more power. Chaos is created, and media blitzed. Then cries go out for solution. Laws are passed which could never have been passed without the chaos. The order, has reigned through deception of the masses, and the agenda is accomplished.”
    –James Arthur, “Mushrooms and Mankind” (38)

    • Don’t speak intellectual words in a forum where people only understand prejudice and hatred towards minority races… That’s not allowed and will not be greeted with open arms. You should speak denial, have an unwavering faith in corrupt policing practices, and deflect whenever you get the chance to… (Sarcasm) #Respect

      • McGillicutty

        Only the foolish give in to this racial division being stirred up by our leaders and MSM. There are atrocities done to ALL colors of people all over the world! Heartbreaking really. Yet folks let their inner hate out instead of choosing to repress it and love their fellow man…Agape love!

        • Outtahereasap

          This country has the fewest atrocities. Fact. Those who don’t believe it need to pack up and leave.

  • jeffroed

    no more shopping,fuel,to buy. dim witts ran them off.

  • What most people are refusing to understand are that these types of Use of Force shootings are rare….Rarer still are unjustified uses of force.
    These protesters and rioters began not even an hour after this shooting, long before this guys blood had even dried up…That goes to show that they could care the less about the facts of this shooting or wait until preliminary reports are released to the public.
    It goes to show that they don’t truly care about the truth nor this mans life, its yet another excuse to loot riot and destroy private and public property by a bunch of low life criminals.

  • jilly

    And it’s the whites that are racist??????? This gal should be in mourning but what is she doing? Promoting hatred. She needs to be locked up and given some anger management courses. It just makes me sad that people turn out the way they do.

    • What country do you live in? She should be “locked up” and given anger management courses? White people commit the same crimes… They promote hatred openly. Ever watched the KKK march and listen to their divisive rhetoric? So why be slanted in your approach? Please reference your white brothers and sisters as well if oyu believe folks should be locked up. Thank you.

      • jilly

        Excuse me but I was speaking about the black girl in the video only. If it was a white woman, I would have said the same thing. Don’t judge me or read something else into what I am saying.
        I was simply pointing out that this gal is the epitome of racism. Listen to her language, listen to what she’s calling the cops and white people. The focus is on her and not every black person.

  • (((doubt’n T)))
  • Mj Carroll

    Odd. Did anyone read #5 in this article?? It immediately becomes a black and white discussion. The only thing I see in black and white here, are the letters I’m printing and the background they are on. Get a grip.

  • dprat

    How pathetic. Why is it always that nobody wants to wait for any kind of investigation to be conducted before jumping to conclusions? The short simple answer is, they really don’t care. Just looking for an excuse..

  • snowyriver

    Thke negro race is very prone to riot against anything today and more tomorrow

  • joe

    BLM!!! Black LIES Matter…………………

    • RayScott

      White lives never matter.

  • Ole Man

    The rampant racism of the posters here is a sad indictment of them.

    • Willo

      Just commenting on the ignorance of the daughter and the fact that papa wasn’t smart enough to drop his gun when asked by the officer. …….is that racism??? If the guy was white it would be the same discussion Ole Man. Always dropping the race bomb……..smh.

  • joe

    Now the black leaders are calling for a boycott of the city of Charlotte;
    ‘We are calling for economic boycott in the city of charlotte…..don’t spend no money wit no white folks who don’t respect us’. Here we go again; blame whites for your continued attitude and failures!! Go ahead……..take your money out of Charlotte…………and yourselves for that matter. I swear, you people eat your own…………..

  • Sort of limited ability to express herself. Appears that there’s only one “adjective” in her vocabulary. School must have been out of the question for her, as well as her family who were an example for her.

  • wcfp.group

    Obviously the young woman taking the video took advantage of the available public school educational system. The commentary is spot on.

    • Willo

      LOL…………..her filthy mouth will boost her career immensely. What a loser.

  • Audra Webster

    The problem is people killings people, cops have a job to do. If you pull a gun on any officer they have no choice but to shoot you! Nobody other then cops should be carrying guns… If they tell you to put it down the rules are simple follow instructions. Looting and burning your own town and the hard working people in the businesses have done nothing to you! Now all you have done is cause damage and showed people that’s acceptable behavior. It’s not you don’t damage anything that doesn’t belong to you. People work hard save money for things for their families. You have no right to destroy things that people work so hard to earn. Go out and get a real job instead of stealing what you feel you are entitled too. Any job that you work and produce an income instead of sitting on your ass all day planning out which place next to loot and burn is not work! End of story good the right things and good things will happen for you!

  • HDLadee

    FOR THE RECORD: This is right up the road from my home. The above information contained within this article is 100% ACCURATE! #BlackLiesMatter once again getting paid to burn their own neighborhood and businesses! They should ALL be arrested and charged for the damage done to our city! Sick of the thug mentality!

  • Audrey Blankenship Gill

    Why isnt she with her dad instead of cussing

  • pianoman

    If he was armed WHERE IS THE FUCKING GUN?

    I’ve seen NO reports from anywhere that a gun has been recovered.

    Also, last I checked, North Carolina is an “Open Carry” State, so even if he had a firearm, unless he was threatening someone with it there still would be NO justification for a summary execution.

    Unless, or until, a recovered firearm is produced, along with independant verification that the firearm in question was used to commit any crime, this “list” is just more of the same bullshit police apologist propaganda.

    • From the article. . . .
      5. Keith Scott Was Armed With A Gun, Not A Book

      The family members of Keith Scott have been saying that he was unarmed at the time he was shot, and that he was only reading a book. Officers observed a firearm in Scott’s hand at the time he was shot. The officers disarmed Scott after he was shot and recovered the firearm.

      Did you even read the article?

      • Outtahereasap

        Not to mention the family wasn’t there to witness anything. False statements.

      • pianoman

        Anyone can type whatever they like.

        WHERE. IS. THE. GUN. ?

        Also, even if he did have a gun, in an open carry State that would not be a crime, or a reason to shoot.

  • gnrrrg

    The girl in the video kept saying that her father had no gun. If she were my child being that foul mouthed and quick to judge I wouldn’t let her know if I owned a gun either.

  • tgiordan

    I heard that Scott’s last words were “Hands up, don’t shoot”. Or was that the lie from another shooting.

  • Deborah Basile

    First of all if my “daddy were shot” I would not have the energy to be foul-mouthed and make a fake video to incite violence. I would be devastated. This disrespectful foul-mouthed individual should be charged with obstruction of justice and inciting violence. Maybe this would send a message out to these agitators. Or better yet all the “protesters” that harmed innocent people, especially the truck driver, should be sent to her home to pillage and burn. And the Media should also be held accountable for reporting on such flimsy accountability. At this point I do not watch any of the major news media reporting as they all add and edit as they see fit.

  • jfs1929

    She is well versed in the english language now isn’t she.

  • Troy Extinct Wooten

    any of you animals that believe that comply or die his how to police the populace is an idiot. These mentally challenged police should be fired and never allowed to carry firearms again. if you fear for your life every time you see a black person whether you are white or black or in between you should find another line of work. nothing gives the police the right to execute people in the street. Your weapons are for defense not assault. cops who are killed in the line of duty is sad but still it doesn’t make it right. their families only experience the same devastation that the police across the country have been inflicting on an entire race of people. you give your dog more respect then is afford the black people. Cops need to realize that they are not the judge, nor jury, nor executioner. and to my fellow veterans we are failing our oath to protect the people of this country from enemies foreign or domestic
    “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and provide new Guards for their future security.” this is from the constitution it means those of us that have power have an obligation to do what is right

    • Are you current or former LEO Troy?
      If you’re not then don’t judge them. I’m former LEO & believe me that the pucker factor is high whether it’s a traffic stop or a domestic call being responded to.
      It also doesn’t matter much on the melanin content of the skin of the person being stopped for most LEO.
      Are there a few bad apples. . . .yeah. . . but most cops don’t give a rat’s furry arse.
      Mostly cause it’s not the skin color that kills you. . . it’s the gun that kills you.

      • States Rights

        You can’t outdraw a drawn gun, in many of these reflex shootings, the officers already had the pistols out or they had their hands on it. Yelling warnings and pleading for compliance. That is the worse time to take your own actions and test the defenses of a law enforcement officer. An officer can die in a blink of an eye, since only the criminal knows when he/she wills strike. So the deck is always stacked against the officers. I patrolled a high crime black neighborhood for 5 years, only twice in 5 years did I have to un-holster my weapon and in both times they complied. Today everyone has a cell phone with a video built in, if i am right the number of shootings by the police in the US has went down, but the videos amplify the emotions. Police may have to revise their shoot-no shoot training, but it’s a bet your life deal on the streets and easy for armchair critics to second guess. The politicizing of the police shootings has to stop and the media along with the SJW anarchists have to be called out on promoting a race war. A war officers never wanted.

        • Outtahereasap

          Well said.

      • Troy Extinct Wooten

        The reason we have civilian police is because the public shouldn’t be policed by the military. now the police are acting like a military force. Comply Or Perish (COP) every citizen is not a combatant. every cop is suppose to be a civil servant here to protect the people not inflict terror and fear. what if doesn’t give you the right to take someones life because you’re scared. it seems like cops feel they should shoot first because something bad might happen

        • Outtahereasap

          Bingo! They shoot first to stop the guy with a gun from hurting someone…that is the bad thing that might happen ! Grow up!

          • Troy Extinct Wooten

            unarmed people can’t shoot anyone. you need to to grow a pair and grow up

      • Troy Extinct Wooten

        So you believe that all black people are bad but not all cops are? Any so called good cop that allows bad cops to tarnish his profession is just as bad. Either part of the problem or part of the solution

    • Dave Grubbs

      So you are admitting you don’t want to comply. Fine, it worked for me all my life but you are just a body waiting for a bullet if you think the way you do around cops. When you stand before God try to tell God that you are right and he is wrong.

      • Troy Extinct Wooten

        i think like that around everyone. cops are just people who bleed like everyone else. If God cared about any of this he would act. God is an excuse

    • Outtahereasap

      You aren’t the judge or jury either so shut up your incoherent diatribe. You pull a gun you are a threat to the entire community within your firing range, not just a threat to the cops. They will shoot to stop you, because you are a threat to other lives….period.

      • Troy Extinct Wooten

        they shoot because THEY ARE COWARDS LIKE YOU. Pussy ass cops, who used to get beat up in school exerting power they only have because of the gun they carry. they have fifteen rounds plus two extra mags and they are so scared they use all their bullets on one unarmed target. the police are just legal gang bangers afraid of old ladies, children and women..period

  • Willo

    And these people want respect………………..you don’t get respect when you point a gun at anyone and especially an officer of the law. …..you get shot. How difficult is that to understand? And this “daughter” is nothing but a low life with filth coming out of her mouth… Acting like a fool gets you nowhere and showing your ignorance by looting lowers you even more to the level of SCUM. I’m sorry the man died but by now, everyone knows the rules when approached by an officer of the law. If papa was as smart as his daughter I guess I understand that he just can’t learn the rules. Rest in peace Mr. Scott.

  • Kirby A. Morrison

    These little hood rats should be arrested for inciting a riot!

  • Michael Guay

    Instigated riot… After meeting at the White House BLM instituted 6 communist style demands. Go read if you don’t believe. All this is a political false flag on the behalf of communism in America. Read “The Naked Communist”.

  • States Rights

    Trying to see how the future evolves on this, if the Police can’t use weapons to protect themselves, they can’t police the communities. If the police aren’t present, the violent street crimes will skyrocket, like Chicago. If that happens, many places will be become unlivable, When law enforcement departments start recruiting with billboards and expensive TV ads, it means younger people are not trying out for the jobs, Eventually there will be a collapse or some sort of drastic action. If even the most justified shooting results in massive riots and extreme expense for the cities and counties, the police may no longer take the risk and patrol. If that happens then the weak can’t call 911 and will have to move or protect themselves.

    • Outtahereasap

      That is what Obama and Clinton want so they can use Federal police to control you.
      Notice how the DOJ sticks their nose into everything local? State courts aren’t good enough for their agenda.

  • LANI

    I sure the hell would not want my son or grandson (s) or Granddaughters to b a police officer these days. It has gotten disgusting …..the disrespect, the division, the hatred for them r not worth it. Of course those same fools will not hesitate to dial 911 when they need help!!????

  • LANI

    If the BLM cares so much about the “black people” why don’t they take care of them with the multi million dollars they get from Soros and other America haters!!! Put ur money where ur mouth is LOOSERS (BLM)

  • Strange1

    How do I know who is right and who is wrong? I wasn’t there. I don’t think many from here were there either….. The dash (or body) cam
    s may clear that up……………………and maybe not.

  • Rich Rochester

    Sounds like the whole family should be prosecuted for spreading misinformation, helping to instigate a riot.

  • implorable Randell

    so yo daddy is a motherfucker huh? i guess that explains why yo is a dumbass motherfucker too. you loud mouth dumbass bitch

  • Prostatepetefrompottstown

    Niggers can live with them, lets get rid of them

  • Lola

    As the gf of a CMPD officer, it shameful that the very race looking for “equality” for the past hundreds of years act in such a vile manner and wonder “why” their treated as a lower class citizens! UNREAL!!! They do absolutely NOTHING to elevate themselves except “act a fool”!

  • Blythe Dolores

    A person dies and people do everything they can to justify it. No compassion. No empathy. No apology. No remorse. No humanity. This is the issue. How apathetic and cold people are when someone died. SOMEONE DIED. This story doesn’t begin with any acknowledgment of the tragedy that happened. That a man died because the police panicked. A man the police were not looking for. With all this mumbo jumbo about the 2nd amendment… and yet, it seems only white people can have guns and not worry about being shot. The people who discount the suffering of the black community and who act as though police are infallable are mentally ill. It is a total denial of reality and calling people who riot or protest “animals” shows just how screwed up this country is. If you were being hunted, you might react too.

    Do Blue Lives Matter more than other lives? Apparently. Apparently there is no morality for cops. You can kill who ever you want and absolve yourselves just because of your suit. You want black people and the public to trust you? Stop making excuses and BE ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • A person, any person, points a gun at LEO they run the risk of being shot.
      If a person, any person, is stopped by LEO there are certain things that person can do to lessen the chances of being shot.
      I’ve carried most of my adult life, been stopped half a dozen times.
      I’m very careful, I notify the officer I’m carrying, I do exactly what the officer says & so I haven’t been shot.

      • Lola Haysel

        I have no idea what LEO is but I do know that you are part of the group of people that think these people failed to follow orders across the board and therefore deserve to die. Forget the fact that SO many of these cases, the person did not have a weapon. It is so much easier to blame the victims than to look at our systems for dysfunction. The men who get shot when they follow all the rules. The men you let officers know they have a gun and a license to carry…. The 13 year old black boy who just died didn’t have a gun. Three bullets in his back. I guess he should have been more white. If it were as simple as people needing to do as officers say… we wouldn’t be having this problem.

        I appreciate your position but it fails to understand the variances in these cases with the only common denominator being that the victims are black.

        • LEO = Law Enforcement Officer.

          First off Blythe you have no idea what I think.
          You have no idea that I think that every single officer involved shooting should be examined by both a LEO board of inquiry or that after that’s done a civilian board of citizens from the local area, chosen at random should also be given the same intel so that a truly just verdict can be delivered.
          Having been LEO I can see it from both sides. Race rarely plays into it, if there is a weapon present all the cops focus on the weapon.
          But then you wouldn’t know that.
          The cops are guilty. . . .cause they’re cops.

        • No. . . actually more non blacks are shot by LEO than blacks are Blythe. It’s just that the media focuses on the blue on black shootings.
          Such as the case above. The officer who shot Mr Scott was black. If it was pure racism then that wouldn’t happen.
          Here’s the compiled officer involved shootings for 2015 from the WaPo.
          Give it a look see.
          https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

          • The raw numbers for 2016 so far are 706 officer involved shootings
            677 male, 29 female
            324 white, 111 Hispanic, 27 other, 71 unknown, 173 black
            12 under the age of 18, 18 to 29 216, 30 to 44 288, 45 & up 168
            389 had guns, 127 had knives, 28 had “toy” weapons.

            Now to come to a few conclusions. . . .
            When it comes to “toy” weapons. Unless the toy is pink or some other unusual color the level of focus identifies it as a weapon. . . that’s it.
            If this situation were, as some claim, open season on blacks then you’d expect that there would be far more dead blacks.

            Just going off the raw data there is no large scale “hunting” going on.
            Are there bad cops. . . . as I said before. . yeah.
            Are there stupid people who do stupid things & get shot. . . . yeah.
            Other than that there is not enough data to make any kind of a judgement call.

        • Outtahereasap

          More than twice as many unarmed whites are killed by police than blacks. That does not count Asians or Hispanics. 400 total one year nationwide.
          42% whites. FBI stats

          • Outtahereasap

            killed by LEO. Law enforcement officers.

  • Randy Jones

    Just listening to the video is saddening. The girl just lost her father, but she’s showing no emotion other than rage. No sadness, no crying, nothing but vile language toward the law enforcement, EMS, etc., who were trying to work and figure out what happened. It’s obvious that she could care less that others are hurt and killed due to her ignorant outbursts. Most daughters would be in tears, she wasn’t even upset that her father was dead. Just using the incident as an excuse to cause trouble.

  • Mike in Virginia

    apes

  • dplogger

    Although I am not generally racist, at this point I would really like to see those rioting “N” words rounded up and shipped the Frick out of the US; and that little sorry ass monkey screaming racial slurs get her mouth washed out and her sorry butt thrown in jail…I am sorry her “MFing” daddy was killed, but if you do what you are td to do by the police,as far as firearms, you might not get shot. . dumbasses should not procreate.

  • Jay Paradiso

    Too bad that I will never believe what the police say anymore. Too many caught planting guns on shooting victims. We have watched too many people die with the cops talents for escalating and lauding authority and making up laws as they go along. Once the exposures began it hasn’t ended. They always fear for their lives, they always try to block filming,They always yell stop resisting when they know that the victim is not resisting. they always investigate themselves and find no wrong doing. The UN says that the United States police force is one of the worst and has cited them for brutalitymany times. If you hate black people have the balls to stand up in front of God and man and say it! but be careful when you do because someday you may be getting the abuse .Its not just about black vs white . Its blue versus everyone with no accountability for their misdeeds. You put any peoples back against a wall and they will rage.

    • Jonathan Miller

      What’s this “we” she it? We watched cops plant guns, rape people, blah, blah,blah. You sound like a moron…

      • Jay Paradiso

        Millions of people watch the videos of the cops murdering and planting guns .I may be a moron in Your eyes but that is okay because clearly you either don’t watch whats available or don’t believe your eyes when you see it. Name calling is the last resort of an invalid uninformed opinion

        • Outtahereasap

          Please refer me to one video of a cop murdering or planting a gun. I suppose it is possible but I won’t believe it until you refer me to the video you saw.

        • Jonathan Miller

          You’re lame, and that isn’t a name, it is an adjective…

          How a few days changed the narrative, cops “planted ” an ankle holster on his leg…planted Marijuana in his lungs, and his car, and handrolled it into a blunt. They took his gun and printed it…found his fingerprints inside and out and on the bullets, while 5 cops all conspired to lie to murder a random black…

          In honest times people would name you a fool…

          You are a nasty liar and race baiter…deny, deny, deny the truth…just as anyone must do to vote for Crooked Hillary…

  • Phillip

    These animals need to be eliminated one by one. listen to that piece of trash, talk. The only oppression they face, themselves. Justice was served!!!

    • mastamilli

      Animals?

      • Outtahereasap

        When they riot, scream threats, attack officers, they are acting like animals!

  • Patti Hannah

    If the alleged daughter is this vile with that attitude and that foul mouthed, it isn’t hard to figure out where she got that attitude from and why daddy got his azz blown away.

    • mastamilli

      You know that’s not the right way to look at this. Not at all. She just lost her father.

      • Jonathan Miller

        Well, as a daughter she likely knows her father packs iron…

  • disqus_De29mnB4jD

    I’m starting to think that people feeling “guilty” for them being born white is the new Pokemon go…..

  • xiromisho

    that’s fine… release the body cam footage to prove all these points and the entire situation will deescalate…. what is it that they always say? If you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide.

    • mastamilli

      Agreed.

  • Peony

    And Hillary is going to school whites?

  • Schray

    With Killery talking last night about what white people need to do! I think they should send her down there in the middle of her people in the streets (created by the liberals) alone and unarmed and have her stop the riots! Come on these are your people! Bombs go off in New York and they can’t say terrorism…have to wait till more information comes in. A black man gets shot while not complying with the officers and immediately they are calling foul. This is the fault of the liberal leaders! I am so thankful for those from the black community speaking out against these riots. How they think that this is in anyway helpful to their cause, destroying their own neighborhoods is beyond me.

  • Sam Price

    Did you actually witness the incident, or are you also spreading your own version of “facts”?
    Any evidence to support ANY of these facts?

  • Richard Arlan Carter III

    Why would any of the mainstream media outlets care about facts? They are paid by the Obama administration to ignore any and all facts in these situations and do everything in their power to make it seem as though every shooting is racially motivated and that they are always unarmed. And too many gullible US citizens are falling for it hook line and sinker. The truth is simple. Dont break the law, and you are going to do just fine. Do I believe all the shooting have been justified? No. But most have been. You have to put yourself in a LEO’s shoes. When someone points a gun at you what are you going to do? Wait for the bullet to come? No, you take action.

  • Shelby

    Anybody know the truth of the matter? Somewhere in between all the talking heads, it’s gotta be there…

  • cat

    Thugs are always looking for a reason to act out, steal and be aTHUG – PERIOD. Being destructive and violent to people on the roadways would be handled quite differently here in Texas. This is a RIOT – NOT PROTEST! And needs to be handled as such with great force.

  • David Mcandrew

    The bottom line here all us whites are racist

  • Austin James Johnson

    61% of the people killed by cops each year are white males, 32% black males, and the remaining % is a mix of race and gender.
    400 total people on average a year are killed by a police officer. So please tell me how every incident is magically racist cops killing blacks when almost twice as many killed each year are white and how can we possibly have a problem with cops killing people when the average number is so low? 400 out of how many millions of people in the us?
    All these numbers are from the fbi btw so don’t bother telling me I’m wrong.

    • Willo

      Funny, no one replied to your comment . They don’t have a rebuttal because the statistics proves them wrong.

  • Who Gives A Fuck

    So you want us to believe that the police were looking for someone else and he just pulled a gun on the police for no reason? lmao RIGHTTTTT

  • Hollywoodskeptic

    But he says no official report has been released, so that means he’s corroborated a whole false narrative…

  • Kurt Hamblet

    I’m confused. Your blog entry comes under a heading of news, but contains an opinion piece. Are you a registered news outlet or just another blogger? I evaluate sites and am trying to clear up the confusion for students.

  • Cassaundra Sandi Jackson

    Wow, you people exude so much ignorance that it is almost futile to even respond to you. Most often, the people who live in an area are not the ones who are looting. Others come in as plants to show exactly what you speak about and then they leave and the people who remain are the ones you all speak of with disdain and disrespect. This is sad because this is documented as a tactic used to change the narrative of what the initial issue was in the first place. Jedi mind trick. However, those of us who have an education will stay on task. If you can disarm a young man who killed 9 people and take him to Burger King, why is it that a Black man not doing anything wrong has to die?. That is inept policing. The main problem.

    • Willo

      So you’re saying that pointing a firearm at a policeman is OK and should be ignored?? There was no book but there was a firearm ……..just what would you do if someone pointed a gun at you? Would you fire at that person or let him/her shoot you first???

      • Outtahereasap

        She would throw a book at him…logical enough.

  • Michael Weber

    It’s not about fighting racism it’s about people expressing their anger and rage because they don’t get life handed to them. I see as many non-blacks (whites, etc) running around looting, rioting, etc. People just use it as an excuse to be destructive. It’s judgment upon thus nation. Repent for it will get much worse!

  • Pat Patterson

    If this daughter is a reflection of her father, the world didn’t lose much. Her vocabulary is very limited and very disrespectful to her own father. Sad that this is the future of the black race. They can, and should, do better in raising their offspring.

  • Hank Murphy

    Many, if not most of the police shootings in the US have been abhorrent in my book. The recent Oklahoma shooting is beyond belief and sickens me. So you know where I am coming from.
    Now my take.
    How is this shooting racist in any way? There is zero reason for the kind of reaction that has occurred in Charlotte! Zero reason! What is going on here? In this case the protesters are 100% wrong. In a complicated world, it is rare for one side to be so completely, perfectly wrong.

  • Dee Frost

    The way they act does not help anytihng,only makes them sound ignorant, Why was their no recording, do they not have body cams ? i wonder if she could say fuck a few more times, i hate all the the people being shot, but That does not sound like grief, that sounds like someone thinking they are real cool,when they are so uncool,

  • Dan Ridlen

    Shoot the rioters too. Respect for the law must be restored.

  • Mary Short Shipman

    Thank you for caring enough about us to share the truth!

  • NortonSmitty

    Every time you bastards have an excuse. You will reap what you sow.

  • Jean Daniel

    An eye witness have come forward. She said Scott was holding a book and that a white cop with a bald head shot and killed Scott, she also stated that he complied with the officer command. She also stated that the Black cop arrived after the shooting and tried to give CPR but Scott was already dead, he didn’t die at the hospital

  • Megan Elizabeth Mcbride

    It’s an open carry state.

  • Timothy Peabody

    Wow, all these idiots. They were, nearly all of them, shot because they were breaking the law and someone called the police in and they could not follow orders. You point a weapon at me of any type with the capability of using it and demonstrate that you intend to and I’d kill you too. It baffles me that the moment they have a real problem they are dialing 911 and calling the police they hate so much to beg for help. One day very soon those calls will go unanswered. You will truly be on your own to fend for yourselves. The problem is sadly that black people are racist! The unfortunate thing is that they kill eachother in droves. Violence in the black community by young adults is out of control. Crime by the same is out of control! Instead of cleaning up their act it’s easier to blame it on someone else or something else and continue their ways. Might I add that I haven’t met even one black person who ever experienced slavery in their or their parents life time. If you hate this country so much then pack your crap and leave. I’ve actually read demands from the BLM movement demanding free money. No consequences for breaking the law. Release of all black criminals regardless of crime. Etc etc…..for slavery which once again not one black person alive has every experienced. Madness…..

  • Michele Foran

    Wow, that is one classy lady narrating the happenings of this shooting. She’s a classy, spot on journalist! Her mother should be so proud!

  • Tony D

    You are one stupid nigger blaming whites for your problems he had a GUN if he learned to COMPLY he would be ALIVE today it’s easy COMPLYING SAVES LI

  • H. Johnson

    Apparently English is not the daughter’s first language.

  • Christin Hambacher

    Was Keith Scott legally allowed to possess a firearm?

  • T. King-Balkcum

    OMG! Wow! Seriously! This video is the problem! People are rioting-looting & someone was shot & killed bc they were protesting for her & her father. Bc they believed what she said! This is so crazy! What would they do, is what they need to ask their selves. Are they willing to put on a uniform & show everyone a better way to appropriately handle being in a situation like this. This officer did not want to shoot this man, he was faced with the worse decision in his life-career. This video is so misleading! In the video she was making it about race. She made it seem like it was a white officer that killed her black father, over race. What happens when this officers dash cam is released?

  • Dean Gutierrez

    The shooting has sparked growing and violent riots and led to a state of
    emergency in Charlotte. However, Scott was shot and killed by an
    African-American police officer, Brentley Vinson, who works for a force run by a black chief. A WSOC-TV reporter said on Twitter that Vinson is the son of one of the first black detectives on the Charlotte police force.

  • Donna Kleinfeldt-Rolls

    None of them care about facts. It’s not about this or any particular shooting. It’s about getting special treatment for perceived past grievances.

  • Joey

    Isn’t NC an open carry state? Oh, I guess only white people can open carry and not get shot down.

    • mike

      Yes NC is an open carry state but a gun in a holster is not the same as a gun in your hand when I’m pulled over I put both hands out the window and tell the cops I have a gun in the car because I know police are killing people of all skin tones at an alarming rate it has to stop but rioting burning and looting is not the answer

      • Joey

        Sounds reasonable, but what about the black man who was a passenger in Rossville, Minnesota, 3 months ago who the police shot because he told the cop he had a gun for which he had a license. See, Mike, you will not be shot if you mention your gun. A black man will be shot tells the police he has a gun or the police thinks he has a gun. When you hang your hands out the window you will not be shot. If a black man such as Mr Cutchly in OK holds his hands up he will get shot. If he puts his hands down he’ll get shot. See, Mike, you will never understand what we face because you will never ever have to face it.

      • Joey

        Sounds reasonable, but if a black man tells a cop he has a gun, he will be shot like the guy in Rossville, Minnesota a couple of months ago. That’s all well and good that you keep your hands in sight but keeping his hands in sight and raised in the air did not keep Mr. Cutchly from being shot in OK, did it? As a retired criminal defense attorney who has caught police officers in blatant lies on the witness stand I am not prepared to believe them about the gun being in the person’s hand particularly since they refuse to release the video.

  • Roxanne Fenton

    Lies lies and more lies. How many times now have the cops been found to be liers, and gun planters. Stupid ass even record themselves planting a gun. Anyhow, even the witnesses on the street say you are lying. And thirdly, NC is an open carry state. What the fuck happened to his second amendment rights if you want to spew the narrative that he had a gun when he exited his car. You know the second amendment doesnt say that only white people can be armed, right, yall fuckers know that…?

  • Harry Figgers

    This rampant “Jungle Justice” riots will evoke a Civil War; STOP IT NOW Obozo!!!

  • Roxanne Fenton

    Blues lives matter is joke. You chose your career. You chose to take the oath to protect and serve and do so, even if that means putting your life on the line. Now we just have a bunch of spoiled scared shitless police officers.

    So many other profession do jobs that require them to enter strangers home in the most violatile situations, and somehow they manage not to kill anyone. Thousands of police somehow manage to deescalate, disarm and not kill white people everyday, even when they are fired upon. Even a terrorist somehow doesnt get killed. Even a man eating the face off his murder victim. Its a choice to kill, and they are choosing to kill black and brown people. Selective murder.

    And you call us “animals” you fucking racist. Fine cant wait to see you white animals when your sports team wins or loses. Idiots.

    At least black protest violent or peaceful has a purpose, a meaning behind it. “A riot is the voice of the unheard” MLK

    You assholes care more about property than a person anyway. Have become so docile and obedient, you arent even aware of how and when it happens to a “nice” white boy. Like the 18 year old who was tased for over 23 seconds by a crazed cop and then dragged to the side of the road and dropped on his face. Sadly, no outrage from white america, no protest. No worries however, white priviledge gave that cop 4 years in jail. Now, that is the difference.

  • cassandra

    It’s funny how YOU uneducated white people see things! It’s funny how many white people are arrested for doing horrific crimes are never killed like the movie theater killer or the white man that killed the 8 or so black people at church are still alive but over 550 black people killed that have yet to prove to be a threat to society or even a threat to the precious cops. You people will never get it or even understand your centuries of white privilege. White criminals can fight with cops, shot at cops, run from cops and curse at cops and live but the moment a black person does it they end up dead. I swear I believe you all have a secret agenda that has yet to be investigated. If you want to change this so called AMERICA of OURS (key word OURS), then I suggest you walk a mile or spend time learning about the culture and how we got here. Sorry we are not going away and most likely this will not stop until justice is served or created. We know your culture all too well. The sad part is that no one is surprised and knew this day would come but had high hopes that this old way of thinking would fade or evolve. Stop pushing America’s issue under the rug and actually deal with the issues or we will for sure fail as a nation. We have already started the decline so either grow up, educate yourself, reteach yourselves and children that YES all lives matters but right now we focusing on BLACK LIVES MATTER! STAND UP white people for your BLACK PEOPLE! You know what’s going on so please stop acting like this shit is ok!

  • BLKLIVESMATTER

    @DJV STFU you racist cunt

  • Bruce_in_San_Jose

    The video from security, and other cams, shows a gun!

  • z8gideon

    When will we see these foul mouthed, vicious, racist liars and riot instigators arrested, charged, prosecuted, fined and imprisoned? Then, sued in civil court by those who were injured and/or had property destroyed?

  • Xaria

    Really, I am seeing a break down on topic here, so I am going to say this, I understand that in some cases not all the shooting has been questionable, my concern and saddness is in the break down of communication and constructive ideas to fix a multifaceted problem. Let me say this, my husband is a cop, I am one of the most critical of cops actions because I know that there are a minority who should not be wearing a badge, however, when you scream racism perhaps learn all the facts and then stand up peacefully to make your voices heard burning looting and destruction are only hurting your cause and your communitties. Peace and love

    • Outtahereasap

      And I might add, we regular folk are completely losing sympathy with ‘the cause’ because of the way it is handled. In my opinion there are many who are simply looking for an excuse to riot, steal, murder, and destroy. No excuse for that…none.

  • Cops do plant evidence. Where is the body camera proof they didn’t?

  • Bob

    Gosh, golly, gee. She seems like such a productive member of society! This is what her father raised, !!!!

  • doright

    Wow you cops sure are being awful nice to these rioters. Makes you guys look bad and makes cops look like they are afraid to do anything.. Don’t you make it worse by just standing around and letting people like that 1 ghetto queen who walked up to a cop and spit on his shield. Do something for petes sake. bunch of wussies. Makes me mad…

  • OBlamo Binlyen

    Personally, I would have shot that fool just to shut her UP! Ignorant is as ignorant does and she is IGNORANT.

  • Barry

    Perhaps Keith was experiencing constipation and reading about remedies. He felt threatened and pointed his book of psalms at the officer.

  • Marie Treadwell

    FUCK YOUR NARRATIVES…THERE WAS AN EYEWITNESS…. NOT RELATED TO FAMILY…MISS ME WITH YOUR NONSENSE!!!!

  • Usunder

    Girl you need locked up for no other reason then that nasty mouth of your. Talking like that it is plain to see what kind of respect you grew up around. Girl your mommy & daddy done you wrong, kid they done gave you something that Ajax could clean off with the help of Clorox. SO SAD TO HEAR THAT FILT COMING OUT OF ANYONES MOUTH BUT A FELMALE IS 100 TIMES WORSE.

  • Mike Kohler

    Let me get this straight.
    A Black police officer in Charlotte shot a Black man.
    The Black police officer reports to a Black police chief who was hired by a City Council dominated by Black people.
    And, somehow, it was “racist”? :-<

  • theoldsheepherder

    Americans are supposed to admire all cops when they kill more dogs than animal shelter do? UPS, Post Office, and FedEX must be some brave son of a guns ’cause they NEVER KILL DOGS AND THEY SHOW UP AT THE SAME PEOPLE’S HOUSES all the time. The modern cop has a bad case of Barney Fife syndrome only his boss didn’t give him one bullet and a lot of supervision, they gave him tanks, tear gas, automatic weapons, and no accountability. I worked in acute psychiatric care years ago before legislatures decided leaving people on the streets was easier and cheaper. I met a lot of good cops back then. After dropping off people at “my place” most of them told me, “I don’t know how you do it.” Honest cops know they neither have the most stressful or dangerous jobs. The folks that do are not armed.

  • over it!

    She needs to suck on a bar of soap…wow..
    Apparently her daddy taught her well….thugs raising thugs….for a female she sure does talk like a man….she doesnt even realize how uneducated she sounds…..

  • SabresLoyalist

    Pure class!

  • Policefamily

    TAKE THIS DOWN! Be better than this. It sounds like her father was just murdered by a police officer, and she is responding with disturbing language and behavior, but her dad is dead! Don’t exploit her (and the friend who is egging her on), right? Don’t exploit her vulnerability and pain in order to make your point. Because, as you point out, the evidence is not out! We don’t really know what happened which means she could be right or wrong (that he had no gun and was repeatedly shot and also tasered).

  • Richard

    Wake up people, the racial tensions are just a cover. Look at their demands. Look at their funding. Look at their leaders…. They are radical brainwashed communists/socialists who see capitalism as representative of white superiority instead of self ownership. They are confused americans that dream of the “socialist utopias” that SOLD their ancestors into the slave trade, and demand a revolution that they believe will radically distribute wealth into their hands. We need a new approach to this.

  • tyannlindell

    I must comment. The inflammatory language used on this site only widens the divide. I have been reading these posts to try to see all side but sites which use such language ON ALL SIDES are guilty of spinning. Can we tone it down and listen to each other?

    • Dawn Wolfson

      I was thinking the same.

  • 1agd

    But I just read earlier that chief said that it was not conclusive there was a gun pulled on the cops. So which is it – either the man pulled a gun or he didn’t. Real simple yes or no question. Better yet, release the tapes.

  • cardnut

    I wonder if she has any idea how many “undecideds” she has persuaded to vote for Trump. Unbelievable.

  • Judy Heilig

    The family should be charged for inciting a riot but until the president stands behind our law enforcement officers we will have this.
    Praying for our officers….

  • codysan

    So you say. Prove it – show us the videos!

  • Michael Cogar

    Misinformation is not the cause. The thugs needed some loot and hit the stores while their buddies kept the police busy. The woman on the tape is showing why many whites don’t interact with blacks. Their mouths. That woman must have used the mf word 3 times in each sentence. I’m old and I have never liked that kind of talk but every black I have met couldn’t talk for a minute without those two words. And she didn’t see shit but she knew all about it. If the news station ran that tape it would leave viewers scratching their heads.

  • Mike Klarman

    And the lies continue! Just like Michael Brown. I’m sure they were all on the way to Sunday school. All holding bibles. All were hard working family men that were just randomly chosen by racist police officers and shot for absolutely no reason. The Pope was considering making them Saints. They never even received a no parking ticket. Contributed their free time to the big brothers program. Give me a F’ing break!!! Criminals with lengthy rap sheets armed with a weapon. THAT is what they were! Just listen to the out of control rant of Scott’s daughter. She uses the M. F. Term in a half hour post more than I have in 60 years on this earth. Yeah, he sure raised a wonderful person didn’t he. Lies, lies and more lies. All backed by the media and endorsed by madam Hillary a true police supporter (NOT!!!!!) who thinks the police are racist and is disgusted by their actions.

  • David Lee Wright

    This is very transparent The man was armed. In broad daylight the offixer(a) are well trained to distinguish a firearm. The man continued to act in a threatening manner after being tazed. Pretty tough guy. What was his disability again? Anyone black,white, yellow or brown brandishing a firearm in the presence of any Police Officer is taking a high risk of being shot. Use of the tazer first shows restraint on the part of the officers. It isn’t good that the man wound up dead, however that was a risk that he elevated himself to by brandishing the firearm.
    Secondly, the word on the street, if reliable is saying that many of the violent protesters, vandals and looters were summoned from other states. Their goal is not “peaceful protest” but rather to stir the crowd into a riot so they can take advantage of the chaos to break into businesses and vandalize them for their personal gain. It is very doubtful that any of these looters and theives have any sympathy for the dead man. They would likely kill him theirselves if a financial gain could be materialized from it. This is just another example of violent thugs taking advantage of an already bad situation. In my score book it equals out to something like Police: 1 Thugs : minus 12

  • The_real

    Calling for another Dallas. We need another Hero.

  • Shaun Kasali

    Keith’s wife was there and filmed the incident on her phone. You are spreading lies. You need to issue an apology and correct your article. I won’t even comment on the tone. Just fix it to reveal ACTUAL FACTS.

  • Atteus Thundrull

    I’m sure all the Iraq and Afghanistan combat Vets with TBIs will be glad to learn they don’t deserve those disability checks, according to America’s foremost cop website.

  • Stephanie Powell

    To begin with. Point #3. Keith Scott’s family members did not witness the shooting.
    Please watch video below. His wife was a witness.
    https://www.facebook.com/NPR/posts/10154792775151756

  • Trish Martinez

    Maybe what we need is robot officers ( robocops).
    That way when crazy disorderly persons who might be armed are stopped, the robot can move in and detain the perpetrator.
    This way officers wouldn’t run the risk of getting shot, run over, killed or get accused of racism.

  • Craig Zander

    His wife was present and filmed the event, so you can’t say his family wasn’t there. Also, he had a brain injury, which makes him disabled, maybe not physically but it definitely impairs a person’s ability to think and reason. Just thought I’d point that out.

  • Warrior710

    No family members present? Is this why his wife recorded the entire ordeal? Why is there no gun at his feet in her video, but one suddenly appears in later photos? Release the police videos so that we all can determine the truth.

  • Joe
  • Will Perry

    Many logical fallacies being made in the below comments and comments to come. There is likely no solution and/or compromise to be had on this course. SMH

  • Wayne Johnson

    You guys should really keep up and update your website if your going to lie…

    1) The wife of Keith Scott has already released her cell phone video of the shooting so your lie about ‘no family member were there at the time of the shooting’ has been exposed as a lie
    2) The wife’s cell phone video shows that ALL the officers started firing on Keith Scott so your lie about he was killed by a “Black Officers” is exposed as a lie
    3) 3 OTHER videos have also been posted on YouTube from different angles and NONE of them show the ‘gun’ that you claim was recovered. In fact it actually shows one of the officers STANDING on the very ‘black spot’ that you claimed was the weapon…lmao | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY3LwmFGosM | 0:01

    We all know it’s only a matter of time before the rest of your lies are exposed

  • CHRISTO99

    Since nobody everyone is obsessed with me, and all you bluelivesmatter racist clowns continue to comment to me after I spent two days asking you to stop, begging you all to shut up because not a single one of you wrote anything of any substance, I just want you to read a little about George Zimmerman. It’s his wiki page (which yes, I know anyone can write on, but it is fact checked really well now which is why so many universities allow Wikipedia to be used in academic papers (for all the stupid people on here who still think Wikipedia is a bunch of lies and unchecked misinformation, like it’s still 2002 or something). But here. Read about your hero. At least 10 people have written to me on here claiming that George Zimmerman is some kind of hero, some kind of good guy. You have all showed how disgusting you are with these high opinions of a low life piece of trash. It makes me wonder how you animals treat your neighbors and your women. I assume just like Zimmerman treats his neighbors and women.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman

    Happy reading. Try to control your hard one and smiles as you read about your big hero and all the times he beat on women and carried illegal guns and attacked and even murdered innocent people.

  • Sandy Robinson Murphy

    BREAKING JUST RELEASED,,,,
    I just watched a real good video,Scott’s wife took of the shooting,,I see no gun at his feet,,,I see no gun at his feet,,,

  • Sandy Robinson Murphy

    Blacks kill each other by the Dozens all year long
    ,,,no NAACP AL JESSIE BLM, But let A COP OF ANY COLOR KILL A BLACK PERSON ,,THEY ALL CRAWL OUT FROM UNDER A ROCK,,Why aren’t they there for the people they REPRESENT

    • alguien

      what’s your point? whites kill each other at roughly the same amount.

  • Bastion

    Well, it appears that your #3 is patently false. Hmmm, I wonder if anything else YOU’RE spreading could be lies? (Or, if I’m being generous, “misunderstandings”….)

  • Ah Got Somethin Ta Say!

    For those keeping score at home:
    5. Keith Scott Was Armed With A Gun, Not A Book – Hearsay. Police say one thing, witness says another. You are merely asserting your faith in the police version of the story. Time will tell, but for you to assert certainty right now is blatantly dishonest
    4. The Officer Who Shot Keith Scott Was Black – You fundamentally misunderstand the issue by simplifying it to white cops vs black civilians. Sadly this is happening on both “sides”, and both are wrong.
    3. Keith Scott’s Family Members Did Not Witness The Shooting – Like the family member who produced a VIDEO of the incident? FALSE.
    2. Keith Scott Was Out Of His Car With Gun In-Hand – Same as #5, completely unverified at this point.
    1. Any Disability Keith Scott May Have Had Is Irrelevant – If a disability is implicit in the inability to comply with an officer’s request, yes it is very relevant. If he was unarmed and shot anyway, it is very relevant. Again, we don’t know at this time. Wait until you have actual facts before you try to make an argument.

    Zero out of 5 = FAIL

  • TechieXP

    The fact is, the man’s wife does have a video that she recorded with her own phone when her husband got shot.

    Also the fact the cops refuse to release the video to the oh pics shows they are hiding the facts.

    Also why were to cops called for a ma just sitting in his car waiting in his wife to come so they can go pick up their child.

    Who cares what color the shooter was. The shooting was a cop.

    The cops own boss days the video from body came are cars came do not show the man holding a gun. Now that was from th3 chief of their police force.

    So your so-called 5 facts amount to nothing but bullcrap.

  • Tutor Livingston

    His wife released a video recorded on her phone…clearly she witnessed it. That bit of misinformation discredits your entire article…You are adding to the misinformation in the media.

  • Concerned Citizen

    What a fowl mouthed family. Sad, it can be said w/o the curse words and come across so much better. Why was his wife recording this? Did she know ahead of time what was going to happen? If it were my husband, and he had a T.B.I. I would have run up in between the cops and my husband with my hands up, before the anything could have happened. This woman is quite composed after her husband is shot. This brings more questions than answers. BTW – After bringing this up, were the police familiar with Mr. Scott? We are hearing NOTHING about if he had a record of being arrested or altercations with the law. If so, wouldn’t they have also been aware of his T.B.I.? One more question, how did he get his T.B.I.? Please forgive me if I am missing something… Still confusing…

    • Stoned Miller

      The T.B.I. was from a motorcycle accident late last year. The officers had surrounded the vehicle with guns drawn had she ran in there she would have made the situation much worse and might also have been killed, the video definitely would have been confiscated. Also some of the “fowl mouth” language was coming from the officers. As far as missing something … we all are but the police won’t release any evidence. But you still have people making shit up like “Officer Blue” the author of this article.

  • Gary Larson

    Might want to update point #3 as his wife’s video is now out. Guess everybody’s getting a little ahead of themselves, eh?

  • David Keith

    Anyone who doubts that Lamont Scott was not the type to point a gun at a cop should Google his entire criminal record. . Not the edited one alluded to by papers Iike the NY Times. . This guy had s history of serious violence. . He was sitting in a car reading a book my ass.

  • Guest

    This post is BS! First off, facts means absolute truth and then the writer proceeds to say “may” be wrong? Which one is it? Facts or uncertainty? Now that the video of the shooting is out that his WIFE took, you’re the one who looks incredibly stupid and misinformed, Mr. Writer! You don’t even know what disability he has! Lol!!! All your credibility is lost!–gone!! Let’s all stop commenting on any of his BS posts because he clearly is the one attempting to plant seeds of misinformation and 0 facts! Shame on you! Karma is all I have to say!

  • Laura Ellison

    Classy! Wonder why the police react to these fools!

  • rhodiumcobalt

    I have to partially disagree with numbers 2 and 1. Yes, Scott was out of his car when shot and Yes, evidence points to him having a gun. But after exiting his vehicle, the footage shows him with his arms down, not raising the gun to threaten police. Also, though Scott was physically able to stand, he may have had mental health problems from brain trauma. If he did have any documented brain damage, he probably didn’t obtain the gun legally. This situation is really complicated. I am sorry for all the officers and for the family involved, my love goes out.

  • Patty Scheving

    If he had a gun, did he have to die? or could they have talked him down gently (or just shot his arm). I worked in institutions with mentally ill and we never had guns but had violent men who we took down without death

    • ♧BobbiEllen♧

      That’s complicated and sometimes unrealistic. Shooting and arm/leg isn’t as easy as they make it on TV. Even if someone was that good of a shot, that doesn’t stop the aggressor from being able to still make a move with a weapon. I’d think that if it comes to actually shooting someone in the first place, it would be expected that the circumstances have escalated beyond that.
      Yes there’s ways to deal with the mentally ill, but it’s a different situation when they have the gun. You can’t expect police to take a bullet or even their life as a trade.
      I agree that over all there needs to be a better way to deal with things and the public. One step is to have the police deal with the public in a positive way. Like during community events. That way people and police don’t automatically see any interactions as negatives. Better training should be considered, as well as having several options available to them when there is a threat.

  • A. Langston

    Racist sons of bitches spreading lies. Actually his wife was there.

  • Jason Shwagner

    Another “gentle giant” media created agenda “victim”. You get out of your car and try to fight your social justice battles on the street with a gun and yes sir, the cops will rightfully shoot your dumbass. All these lefty media made up angel thugs from Michael Brown to Trayvon Martin were all angry confrontative, assaultive punks. This latest dude had several convictions including some felonies for assaults CONCEALED WEAPONS and had done prison time for it! Do we get ONE PEEP ABOUT THAT from the liars at Commie News Network or Always Bringing Crap news? Nope cause the truth doesnt bring ratings and sell airtime and ad revenue.

  • Cindy Finke

    This young lady is embarrassing. Her speech is the worst kind of dialog. Swearing nonstop and race baiting white people. You would think she would be with her family mourning her loss instead of spewing swearing and shouting at the police. I’m a liberal, but I can’t support this kind of hate. If she talks like this, her family probably does not respect the police, so in my mind it is very possible her father was also being disrespectful. When you are disrespectful you come across as a threat.

    • rhodiumcobalt

      Hey Cindy, your husband wasn’t shot in front of you. Who are you to judge the language of a person who has seen the unspeakable? Who are you to cast the first stone?

    • ♧BobbiEllen♧

      Yeah… language shouldn’t even be brought up. No matter what the outcome was, she did lose her spouse.

    • George Smith

      The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree apparently.

  • bil

    this story is bs

  • Veronica Brown

    What is the sound you hear around the time she says don’t do it and right before the shooting actually takes place? It sounds like something hard falling to the ground. Possibly a gun and if so, he already was unarmed and they shouldn’t have shot him. He had his hands at his side. He wasn’t threatening them. The point is they should use tasers, rubber bullets, whatever before shooting. My hubby was military and they aren’t allowed to shoot unless fired upon, but we don’t train officers to hold the same level of discipline?

  • Marion Daniels

    I came here out of curiosity, but I see it’s a racist, fascist, excuse any and all police brutality and murder site. Hey, Heil Hitler.

  • UNCMoose187

    “…but he was able-bodied enough to stand on his own and threaten officers with a firearm.”

    …um, proof? Also, the police are doing a really good job of inflaming these protests by not explicitly saying whether he had a gun or not. As far as I see it there’s also no proof that a gun was in his hand, possibly in his holster because it was clearly moved based on the pictures and video evidence.

    Also and probably most importantly, the only thing I could find regarding why he was stopped in the first place was because he was rolling a joint… so why is nobody talking about how you can go from 0 to 60, from rolling a simple blunt to lying dead in the street? Pretty sure this is the primary reason why the public and cops (who work for US) have a strained relationship these days, because everything they do appearsas shady and everything they do that is shady is done at their free will. They still haven’t released two other video and/or audio tapes and the question is why not? Even if he had a gun, pretty sure that the penalty for a gram of weed is not death. Also, the police chief blatantly lied when he said that officers are not trained to kill, I mean that was a bold face lie which everybody already knows is untrue.

    Until cops accept that they have a large responsibility for how the public views them these days, nothing will change and they will continue to murder more innocent people, or murder people who aren’t guilty of a crime punishable by that penalty, or even do their jobs properly and correctly simply because they continue to push this false narrative that they are under attack by citizens by no fault of their own. At this point it’s quite obvious and an arguable that the police are their own worst enemies when it comes to the majority of these shootings, some of which are blatant murder while others are a bit more ambiguous (see trayvon martin, tamir rice, eric garner, and walter scott for blatant and inarguable cases of murder).

  • UNCMoose187

    so why was mr. Scott stopped again? What is probably the most important part of this case isn’t even being discussed, LOL, and all I can find is that it was because they saw him rolling a joint. Yeah, pretty sure the punishment for that is not murder

    • George Smith

      1) there is no proof the guy was murdered.
      2) a reason to contact someone has nothing to do with what happens from there

  • Opionated

    I have a thought to just throw out… Mr. Scott was at a bus stop to pick up his son… How did his wife get there and why was she there on the scene? This has never been explained and I think it could be important because I have almost come to the conclusion that Mr. Scott may have committed suicide-by-cop AND I think his wife is aware of it. I think she was aware that he had a gun…I could be way off base but her being at the scene is mighty perplexing to me… She kept screaming “Keith, don’t you do it!!! Don’t you do it, Keith!!!” which really made no sense to me… Why would she say this and keep repeating it… I propose that Mr. Scott and wife had gotten into an altercation and he threatened her that he was going to do this thing and maybe she didn’t think he would really go through with the threat… She was just too convenient to be there… I don’t know if Mr. Scott had been depressed or what may have led to what ultimately happened… I wonder if Mr. Scott had insurance… OK, hit me with it… Tell me how crazy it is… Wonder how much the city will settle for to just make it go away? How much is a man’s life worth if he was going to commit suicide anyway? Is Charlotte going to settle for million$?

    • Angilina Gray Gray

      I don’t know who you are,but by your comment you are the most undesirable ignorant bigot in the planet.How could you racist crap,accused someone of committing SUICIDE for Money,this is a very serious hateful horrible accusation.You fkg supremacism pig are suggesting BLACK HUMAN BEINGS JUMP ON POLICE GUNS so that their relatives profit of tax money or insurances?Do you know the cops are eliminating the black race in America?do you know when a BLACK person is killed by a cop the greedy lawyers get 70%of $$ ALMOST nothing goes to the family’s victims.? Do you remember when a BLACK senior was beaten by a cop prick??they settled f 1 miserable MILLION dollars and the FUCKING white lawyer stole 90% of the million for her fees and the old lady ended up with a tip?always FUCKING whitey’ using abusing and kill BLACK Americans..You whitey’s have such s low concept for African Americans.I know why black Americans are being senseless genocide by cops.Because every RACIST diabolic whitey’ is out there to get them, just bc they are BLACK and the whole AMERICA hate them.

      • Opionated

        Angilina Gray Gray; You made one true statement in your missive… You don’t know me… I threw out legitimate concerns that I have with the narrative being espoused by the media… These are concerns that you didn’t, obviously, have any answers to… Your only response was the usual racist rant of name calling that follows anyone questioning the ‘usual’ story being published… Your filth laden vernacular is really revealing… I repeat my original question to anyone out there that may have information on because I as, unlike you, am open to new information that could change my mind… I also have a second concern: We hear in the recordings of wife AND police of wife screaming “He doesn’t have a gun” and police yelling “put the gun down” about 14 times… At no point in either recording do we hear Mr. Scott yell “I don’t have a gun”… This would be my immediate reaction to this situation… I would be screaming at the top of my lungs, in no uncertain terms, that I DO NOT have a gun!!! Wonder why we don’t hear this in either recording… I’m already pretty sure I know your reaction to this but I am still open to any new info that you or anyone else has… If you have anything besides the usual racist rant about me being racist and all that please feel free to share… If all you have is your normal response just keep it to yourself and give someone the chance that may have valid points…

      • John LaRoche

        The black family should have gotten less! I see nothing wrong with this! Get a job!

  • Gretchen

    Just saw the video cam from the police car of the moment Scott was shot and laid on the ground. The person who shot him was not black. It was a white officer. At that moment in the video, there was no gun on the ground at all. What makes it suspicious is there was a gun at the foot of an officer in a photo but not in the video from the camcorder. Something is not right and something needs some explanation. Otherwise, it was murder.

  • Sonja Rutledge

    Finally, the truth!!

  • Earl Cletus

    The perp had a long record of child abuse (plainly evidenced by the fine vocabulary of his children in this video), assault with guns on law enforcement. Was given at least 13 opportunities to drop his weapon like any civilized human would do. I guess he got what he came there for.

  • Doremi Fasolatido

    The media is driving all of this nonsense. They have no shame – no shame at all.

  • animec

    Pretty sure it’s a myth that you need to follow orders in order to not get shot by cops and then get evidence planted on you. Here’s some circumstantial evidence:

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/here-are-8-white-people-who-pointed-guns-at-police-officers-and-didnt-get-killed/

    Btw, I recommend you guys refrain from nurturing Jon J Rouse’s mental health problems and instead spend your energy on taking screenshots of his comments in order to inform his customers about what kind of a man he is. Also please don’t make him angry, he tends to take his anger out on his wife and she’s innocent.

  • Michael Endersby

    I watched the videos, all. Having a gun is his constitutional right. Exiting the vehicle upon some unknown person out of view hammering on the window — potentially a threat — then backing away opposite that threat is prudent, de-escalating behavior. Having the gun pointed at the ground is the least aggressive posture possible while holding a gun. He never began to raise it. He may not have realized it was police, may have been surprised, and therefore confused. Did they say “Police, drop the gun” or just “drop the gun”.

    You see, there is another narrative. This one ends basically in the same old narrative: “I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6”, that outcome largely a known quantity.

    I’m in no way against police, but that work requires acceptance of risk that simply is a known part of the job. If you’re so afraid and determined to avoid injury or death at any cost, i.e., shoot anything that looks at you crosseyed, please go to work for Wal-Mart. imho

  • Gazoo

    I’m hopeful the blacks continue to kill other blacks until they’re extinct. I was not brought up prejudice. I became “prejudice” after having to go to school w/ black males who held themselves as they walked down the hall, big black girls who would threaten to beat u up & were generally rude & obnoxious. I will never forget their chant. “A FIGHT A FIGHT BETWEEN A BLACK AND A WHITE. THE BLACK GONNA WIN CUZ THE WHITE CAN’T FIGHT” Growing up around that tends to stick with u. Now they r distroying their own cities and Obama praises them.

  • Katherine

    1. None of the footage shows a gun in his hand.
    2. He was shot within seconds of exiting his vehicle while walking backwards and pointing nothing toward anyone.
    3. After being shot, the footage does not show Scott being disarmed nor is there any gun present in the video.
    4. Scotts’s wife made it clear to the officers what her husbands disability was, a piece of information they chose to disregard.
    5. A marajuana cigarette is a threat to no one.
    6. A man sitting in his vehicle smokin said marajuana cigarette is not a threat to police.
    7. There is no clear reason the officers even had to justify approaching the vehicle and Scott to begin with.
    8. Just because they release a photograph of a gun or that they recovered a gun from the scene after the fact does not mean that Scott had the gun in his hand or that the gun was a threat to the police.
    9. Anyone who cares about any life, including that of the officers involved, should be fighting for the same thing – transparency.
    10. If there is nothing to hide, why not release the rest of the video?

    • Gazoo

      There is a gun in a pic taken by the neighbor girl who swore she saw the whole thing and there was NO GUN. However in HER pic on HER Facebook page plain as day is a gun lying on the ground.

    • Gazoo

      The man was a violent thug who had been arrested many times, several for assault. He beat women & children. Family man? Yeah, right. The BLACK cop who shot him was a decent man. I say that is one less thug on the street that his future victims have to deal with. And oh! A article in NY Times says he worked as a security guard at Eastland Mall when he wasn’t with his family? Eastland closed in 2013. The media needs to stop portraying scum as good solid citizens. I feel bad for the BLACK cop. He has to live with killing someone. It has to be awful. Better the thug (who prob wouldn’t care) than him tho.

  • Gazoo

    I really wish all the thugs were rounded up
    & put on a plane to Iraq or somewhere near there. Nobody needs or wants them here. Also, I hope they go thru riot video & arrest those pieces of s**t who looted, set fires, stopped traffic, shouted 2 ins from police faces & put them in jail w/ the rest of the brothers.

  • Sarah Goodwich

    This shows how inner-city blacks are born liars, and will make up everything as they go.
    It’s why blacks kill each other freely, even more than they kill whites.

  • Mitch Powell

    What’s your source for these so-called “facts?” I think they’re wrong.

  • Mitch Powell

    Watch this at 0:46. Scott gets out of his car. He has nothing in his hand, he walks backward, and when the cop who’s in front of the white truck (a white cop) shoots four times, Scott isn’t pointing anything at anyone. Watch it in slow motion. And watch when the guy in the red shirt reaches into his cargo pocket and hands what looks a lot like a gun, to the black cop there. https://youtu.be/A0kNh2cKib8

    • George Smith

      The guys DNA was INSIDE of the gun. Explain that genius.

  • Mitch Powell

    Can’t handle the truth, huh?

  • Blaine

    After looking at the available evidence, I’m officially not decided.

    The officer in red shirt appears to have planted the handgun. It wasn’t there and then it was, and he was the only one who could have placed it. Whatever happened, redshirt was the source of the firearm to the location it is seen at the end of the video. This is indisputable.

    For arguments’ sake that it is legit, here we go:
    – Colt Mustang is very small, I used to CC one and it can literally be hid below the waistline in a pair of cutoff with no shirt. In the hand of a large man it would be all but invisible to lores camera. It might or might not have been in his hand.

    – Redshirt is the first officer on Scott’s right side, he clearly does reach under the torso, and (if legit) he locates the handgun and pulls it out from under the torso, maybe with verbal assurances to other officers. The next officer reaches Scott’s right arm and begins cuffing, seemingly unconcerned by the possibility of a handgun still in his grasp.

    – Redshirt rapidly clears the firearm, sets it under his foot, and taps it to a location near the body. Crime scene pics show it on the deck with no magazine. I’m not sure if one can tell from the video stills if it has a magazine or not when it first shows up on the video – it looks to me like the magazine is already missing based on how shadowed the bottom of the magazine well is – the base plate would throw back some light. Surely if it was a plant it would be loaded and in a safe condition (?) – safety engaged. It has been a looong time since I owned one and cannot recall if the slide can be worked with the safety engaged – I suspect not.

    Supporting factors
    – it is only protocol to leave the gun where it is if the scene is secure. For all they knew, Scott was still capable of action, so it makes sense to secure the gun. However…It does not make sense to secure, unload, and then drop it at random. They already know the location it was recovered from with at least one other officer capable of verifying.

    -it sure looks like an ankle holster and in the views of Scott prone it looks like the retaining snap is undone.

    Big Questions!

    It might not have been an ankle holster – I can’t tell. If the whole thing went down as I described, why did Redshirt drop the gun back on the deck when he should have bagged it to limit the number of people who had contact with it and its exposure to other contaminants.

    I dunno….

    I’m putting this up on BlueLM because maybe someone can explain the redshirted officers actions relative to normal crime scene procedure.

    • George Smith

      You have NOT “seen the evidence”….you saw a few video clips that were released, nothing more. If there was ANY evidence that a prosecutor could find, there would likely be charges already, not a statement that “no officers will be charged”, which was clearly made, and early on. The picture of the gun was taken from a different angle than the video was taken. The guys DNA was all over the gun, including inside of the slide.

      Also, the guy was a thugg, with a history of shooting one man, and threatening others including his own family members with a gun. He was a wife beater, a child beater, had a restraining order, and was a general dirtbag. I will never understand why people like yourself elevate someone like this above our police, who for the most part are very honorable brave people, who live to protect us from people like Keith. Why would this known felon / thug deserve the benefit of the doubt before our police? Why?

      • Blaine

        I haven’t elevated anyone above anyone else, that’s how it works in a
        free society. Why would folks like yourself turn a blind eye to every
        killing that involves the police and automatically assume the victim had
        it coming – PD have been known to shoot people
        for holding up their wallet, cell phone, shoot them for dragging
        themselves unarmed from an overturned vehicle, for placing their hands
        on the closed window of their vehicle’s door, toss flashbang’s into a
        baby’s crib, shoot dogs that are 100% restrained and
        at the wrong address from the warrant being served etc etc.

        Scott’s history has no bearing on this situation, his identity was
        unknown to the officers. Shall we check the past history of all the
        responding PD, juvie records, if they were active duty, a look at any
        disciplinary actions, what of any referrals for substance
        abuse or marital counseling? Plenty of LE are wife and child beaters,

        and substance abusers. What difference does it make!

        Unfortunately there are many like yourself and seem to find your way
        to the jury all too often while cops walk in the face of obvious video
        and eyewitness testimony. It behooves a free society to ask tough
        questions when LE kill anyone. Prosecution almost
        never charge officers, and even then only after a grand jury
        proceeding. They’re on the same team after all.

        In any event, still images show the gun a few feet from Scott’s right
        foot, closeups show it to have no magazine while sitting on the
        pavement. How did this happen? It was nowhere to be seen in the
        immediate aftermath, there was nothing where the gun turned
        up in later images.

        Its possible this is clean shoot, its possible Scott’s gun was
        empty, its possible officers on the scene didn’t follow protocol and the
        shoot was legit anyway and they botched the crime scene,

        its possible the gun was plant and the DNA was smeared on it by officers, there was blood all
        over the place. Its possible what looked like an ankle holster was really just his pant leg hung up on his sock. Its possible the entire thing is 100% legit.

        I don’t know for certain any more than you do, but unlike you, I AM willing to take a closer look.

  • phyllia

    The problem is law enforcement criminalizing members of the public once its found out that the police has shot an innocent person. The man wasn’t in the process of committing a crime, nor was he wanted for a crime but he’s dead due to an error by law enforcement. There are those who while locked, loaded and padded, shoot innocent men, women and children. They don’t say sorry and use the blue screen of misinformation to criminalize the dead. How do you think that plays out in judgment of one’s moral SOUL? It leads straight to hell because it makes your life hell, here on the planet. Basically your sleep pattern is haunted, the dead are waiting to have their say, when their killer is in between worlds. Can’t shoot a haint. Don’t co-sign with killers, it dirties your soul by association. It’s evil; that’s not good.

    • George Smith

      He criminalized himself, by becoming a convicted felon after shooting a man, threatening his wife and family with a gun, stabbing his wife nearly to death, beating his kids, and using drugs. The cops didn’t force him to do any of that. His record is his own doing, and it speaks to the type of person he was. And character absolutely matters in a case where many are asking questions. If this guy had been a local brain surgeon without any history of crime or trouble, things would look differently wouldn’t they? But when you realize what this guy was, it’s not a shock to any thinking person that he had a gun, and wouldn’t put it down.

      • phyllia

        Can you provide evidence of his record?

  • George Smith

    It truly amazes me that this absolute dirtbag convicted felon is being held up as a martyr as cops are accused of planting a gun (which has his DNA on it and inside of the slide). This guy pulled out a gun, and shot at a man ten times, hitting him several times, and the victim lived, and the charge was plea bargained down to assault with a deadly weapon as opposed to attempted murder which he surely should have been convicted of. He was a violent wife abuser, stabbing his wife, beating his kids, smoking dope, with a restraining order against him for beating said wife.

    Notice that these “poor innocent victims of police murder” are NEVER normal, upstanding citizens without criminal records. Show me the last time a professional black man was dragged out of his car without an reason and shot in the street. Just one example where the guy isn’t a known criminal at some level, a guy who instead has a clean record and an education and a decent job…go ahead and show me one.

    What we CONTINUALLY see, are thugs, acting disrespectfully, disobeying cops, often with guns, and doing everything they can to cause a violent confrontation with police.

    I would like to make an example of one of these cop hating communities by pulling ALL police out for one month, so that they are forced to realize that without the cops THEY will be the ones dealing with guy like this and worse, with no assistance. All of you cop haters in here should be forced to live there during that time as well. I’d like to see how much you hated cops at the end of that month, and how fast you RAN back to a place with a police force. I notice the wife didn’t hesitate to call cops when this animal stabbed her nearly puncturing her lung, now did she? What would have happened to her if they cops weren’t in her city? She wouldn’t be around to talk, that’s what.

  • Arlene Swiger Belk

    I wonder how many care about his criminal behaviour. This is the second restraining order just uncovered and for stabbing his wife in the back. Great guy huh. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b17d527f8565442ab15b654d82f3c98171f438673601d67b6173ddda8c8a5c4b.jpg

  • Ryan Smith

    #2 is false. Frame by frame forwarding clearly shows no gun in hand. You can clearly see both right and left hand is empty. Best assessment of the released videos so far:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s26XXSML00A

    • Ryan Smith

      The black officer shot Keith, which is what is really odd because he is behind the SUV to Keith’s left and arguably has the worst possible line of sight compared to all the other officers. In all of the videos, he is only really seen approaching well after the shooting.

      I have no idea why he shot, as anyone who watches the dashcam video can see Keith posed no threat at that moment. But it is interesting to note that if you slow down the dashcam video and watch, he shoots the instant Keith turns his head and looks at him. To me, that says adrenaline fueled panic. And if you watch the officer in red at the moment of the shooting, he flinches in surprise, as if he wasn’t sure who was shooting – again, because in that moment there was no reason for his fellow officers to shoot Keith.

      I also agree that Keith exiting and walking backwards does make perfect sense when you consider the position of the police – he appears to be backing up into open space to submit and show he was no threat. While it’s legitimate for people to ask why he didn’t raise his hands or get down on the ground, to my knowledge no such commands were given – they certainly can’t be heard on the videos. Let’s also not forget that this was a person with a traumatic brain injury, he may have been confused and unsure of what was happening, especially if he was on medication.

      As for the officer in red appearing to take the gun and sliding it behind him as the video seems to show, it’s highly unusual, if not suspicious. Some have tried to assert that the gun was actually in Keith’s hand pinned under his body, and that’s where the officer in red grabbed it from, but that is absurd in my opinion.

      Keith had only hit the ground seconds ago, if the officer in red thought even for a second that he was armed, with the gun still in his hand, he would never have approached so nonchalantly. No, he and his fellow officers would have very slowly approached, with screams of “put your hands behind your back!!!” and so on. We’ve all see such videos.

      No, the officer in red approaches very quickly, with little concern. And in my opinion, that’s because he knows, he CAN SEE, the gun is still in the holster. He had the BEST line of sight during the entire event, and knew Keith did not have a gun in his hand.

      As we both have noted, he may have pulled the gun out of the ankle holster as protocol, for safety. However, the fact is that would still mean they knew it was a bad shoot and the whole thing has been a cover up. – rob8910