Justified: Video Vindicates Chicago PD Officers in Shooting at Paul O’Neal

Justified: Video Vindicates Chicago PD Officers in Shooting at Paul O’Neal.

The footage of Chicago PD shooting Paul O’Neal has just been released by Chicago Independent Police Review Authority (IPRA.) The video sheds light on the circumstances surrounding the officer-involved shooting. Three officers in-total shot at O’Neal, but the officer who fired the fatal shots did so where other officers could not see him, and that did not have a body camera activated. It appears that the officer did not do anything to interfere with the camera, and they are investigating if it malfunctioned.

All three officers who fired shots have been stripped of their police authority and placed on leave.

The video starts out with officers chasing after a stolen Jaguar.

First Shots Fired at Paul O’Neal

Officers stopped their patrol car as the stolen vehicle came towards them. We can see that Paul O’Neal attempted to run over one of the officers, who barely escaped with his life.

Once Paul O’Neal attempted to run over the officer, the officers had probable cause to believe that O’Neal posed a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officers and others. If O’Neal was willing to run over an officer, then by allowing him to escape, officers would have allowed him to severely injure or kill other officers or citizens in the area. These officers had a duty to stop O’Neal, and they used the only reasonably effective tool that they had to stop him, their guns. Given the circumstances, it was legal and reasonable for officers to fire at O’Neal as he was fleeing (Tennessee v Garner.)

When officers have to shoot at somebody who is fleeing, they should give a verbal warning to the suspect, if feasible. A verbal warning in this situation would not have been feasible, because O’Neal would not have heard officers, and they could not risk a delay in action while they waited for O’Neal to respond.

Chicago PD officers shot at Paul O'Neal after he attempted to kill an officer.

Chicago PD officers shot at Paul O’Neal after he attempted to kill an officer.

Policy Violation

While it was legal for officers to shoot at the vehicle, it may have violated department policy. Many departments have a policy that suggests that officers do not fire at a moving vehicle. However, Chicago PD’s policy is very specific about prohibiting shootings in this circumstance:

Firing at or into a moving vehicle when the vehicle is the only force used against the sworn member or another person is prohibited.

This policy ignores the threat posed by people who are in control of a vehicle. If officers in Nice, France had to follow this policy in the terrorist attack last month, they would have been unable to use force against the terrorist until he had started shooting at people. In situations like these, officers are forced to decide if the threat to lives is more important than their department’s policy.

While shooting at a moving vehicle is generally a bad idea, there are circumstances that allow for it, and most policies are less strict than Chicago PD’s policy on this matter. While it appears that the shots fired by the first two officers were legally justified, it was likely in violation of Chicago PD policy, which leaves the officers open to severe disciplinary action.

Aftermath of the collision when Paul O'Neal rammed a Chicago PD patrol car.

Aftermath of the collision when Paul O’Neal rammed a Chicago PD patrol car.

Final Shots Fired at Paul O’Neal

Once Paul O’Neal’s vehicle had passed the first two officers, O’Neal used his car to ram a second patrol car as the first officers shot at O’Neal. This meant that the first two officers had rounds flying towards the second officers. While the first officers should have ideally been aware of the oncoming police car, they likely didn’t see it due to tunnel-vision.

When anybody is placed into a high stress situation, tunnel-vision is a normal biological response. It is not the fault of these officers that they experienced tunnel-vision after somebody just tried to kill one of them. We expect internet tough-guys to disagree, but almost every other person would have been experiencing the same thing in this situation.

The responding officers possibly believed that O’Neal was shooting at them due to the bullets that were flying their way.

Paul O’Neal ran from the stolen vehicle and fled behind a house. Officers chased him and then one officer fired a fatal shot into O’Neal’s back. We don’t have any video from that officer due to an unknown issue with the camera.

To put this in context, the officer who fired the fatal shot at Paul O’Neal was chasing a suspect who just attempted to murder another officer, and the officer reasonably believed that O’Neal had shot at him. Even if O’Neal had not shot at the officers, we can only judge the officers based on their reasonable perception at the time of the incident. Another reasonable officer in the same situation would likely have believed that O’Neal was shooting at them.

It was legally justified for the officer to use deadly force to stop O’Neal before he killed somebody. If the officer shot O’Neal to stop his escape, he should have given a verbal warning to O’Neal prior to the shooting. Unfortunately, we don’t have the video from this officer to determine if he did so.

If the officer fired at Paul O’Neal to prevent him from accessing a house where he could endanger the lives of people inside, then no verbal warning would have been needed because O’Neal was posing an immediate threat and needed to be stopped immediately.

After the shooting, officers can be heard talking about how they believe that O’Neal shot at them. No weapon was ever recovered from O’Neal and it appears that he did not shoot at the officers, but their belief that he had shot at them was reasonable.

It’s not clear what policy was violated by the officer who fired the fatal shot. The investigation is still ongoing, but it’s worth noting that the policy pertaining to shooting at a moving vehicle did not apply once O’Neal’s vehicle was stopped.

Again, the policy states: Firing at or into a moving vehicle when the vehicle is the only force used against the sworn member or another person is prohibited. Per this policy, once O’Neal was no longer in a moving vehicle, he could be shot at like any other fleeing attempted murder suspect, and it wouldn’t violate that policy.

Chicago PD has declined to comment on what policy was violated by that officer.

Paul O'Neal was handcuffed by Chicago PD officers because he was under arrest for attempting to murder a police officer.

Paul O’Neal was handcuffed by Chicago PD officers because he was under arrest for attempting to murder a police officer, among other charges.

Conclusion

It appears that the shooting of Paul O’Neal was legally justified by all officers involved, but we find it likely that at least two of the officers violated Chicago PD policy. These officers had to make a choice if the threat to public safety was more important than the threat to their careers by violating policy, and they made the decision to protect the public and other officers.

  • Jt75le

    He almost hit the officer and his partner engaged him. Justified,justified,justified.

    • Toureag

      Justified? U think it’s ok to shoot dead defenceless car thief in back & even handcuffed his lifeless hands? Hopefully three officers involved will be disciplined, arrested & spend in jail for life. Wait a min……are u a cop urself too? Think very hard before u draw a gun!

      • Paul Thompson

        You are a Thug and People like you that side with Crooks and Attempted Murder’s should be Marked….

        • Killwhitey

          i agree, people that side with crooks and murderers should be marked. blue lives matter should be marked and watched as a terrorist hate organization for just this reason

          #alljobsmatter
          #bluelivesmurder

        • Dominique Douglas

          That is threatening language. That is thugish language. That is language that should flagged as potentially harmful and should be screened by the government. It is just as vitriolic as the language used by ISIS. You just called him an infidel that should be laid to rest. You should be ashamed of yourself.

      • Michael Friedl

        LOL so he was both dead and handcuffed? Makes sense. I mean he is driving a car after all.

      • James Latham

        Of course the racist redneck will side with the police , these are Trump supporters. Think the cops murdering blacks and other minorities is bad now if Trump becomes president blacks had better stay in their homes living in fear.

        • Guy

          Of course the criminal blacks and cop hating liberals will always side with the thug. This is why we need Trump!

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i am not a criminal black or cop hating liberal and i do not side with a thug…. but i do side with fairness and justice… for the Good…

        • Ethan Allen

          Either that or stop trying to run down the police with stolen cars or pull guns on them while being arrested.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i wonder how you can say that he was trying to run down a police officer… i saw no video showing that… he was just trying to get away… and he did not have a gun on his person… he did not pull a gun on the officers…
            people like you who hide behind a false picture and, possibly, name are a big part of what is wrong here on earth now…
            you sound like an officer who writes lies in police reports…

          • redleg500

            Oh, so it’s ok to try to run down an officer, or anyone else for that matter in the commission of a crime? Really? Are you that ignorant?

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            no i am not that ignorant but i see that you are….because the perp was not trying to run down the officer… the officer opened his door and exited his cruiser as the perps vehicle was approaching the officers cruiser.. the officer put himself in the direct line that the perps vehicle was traveling…
            how easy do you think it would have been for the boy (perp) to brake his vehicle in the instant that the officer put himself in danger by stepping in front of the perps vehicle that was traveling at a high rate of speed? maybe the boy did not think that an officer would be so crazy to step in front of his (the perps) vehicle…
            researchers have posted a story about what professions have the most psychotics…
            c.e.o.s of a business made number one on the list…
            police officers rank seventh…
            it is very disturbing to me to learn that many police officers are mentally ill.. but i did not need researchers to tell me that… the police have proved to us many times in videos that some of them are mentally disturbed…

          • redleg500

            Just like Old Man, you are welcome to your opinion. BTW, I am far from ignorant. All you have to do to see such is to look in the mirror.

            Since you want to go to where he tried to run over the cop, why not go back further to the point where he stole the car in the first place. If he hasn’t stolen the car, he’d still be alive. If he had obeyed the officers demand to stop, he’d still be alive. You want to talk about poor decision making? You don’t have to look any further than him

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            of course you are ignorant…..you just have a hard time admitting it… and you also act like a child…. “look in the mirror??? that is kid talk… you know like in child…
            going back further means very little..
            if the officer did not improperly,if not illegally, shoot the boy he would be alive now…
            remember the officer just thought that the boy was shooting at him when it really was the other officers gun shots…
            so the boy is dead because of the officers mistake.. that is manslaughter and a crime…
            are you an officer? you seem to fit the profile…

          • redleg500

            Me? Ignorant? Far from it. Again, all one has to do is read your asinine posts on here. You’re one of those kind of people that wants to give a trophy to everyone. Guess what, that’s wrong. Life sucks, You need to get over it. The officers didn’t start this, the thug did. It all boils down to him, NO ONE ELSE.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            this will be my last reply to you because you are unreasonable and childish… you say things with very little meaning or none at all… of course the officer did not start this but he did not have to shoot the boy in the back..
            the officer stated that he thought that the boy was firing at the officer but it was really the other officers firing at the boy…
            as a former police officer i wonder how an officer could be chasing a perp in the daylight and not be able to see if the perp is firing a weapon at the officer…the officer was close enough to shoot the boy in the back…
            the officer admitted that he made a mistake by thinking that the boy was firing at the officer…. he admitted to a mistake that took the life of a human… and that is manslaughter… a crime…..
            the officer admitted to mistakenly killing the boy…
            manslaughter is the accidental killing of a human…
            should we just call it a mistake and let it go at that or should we follow the law and arrest the officer for the mistaken (accidental) killing of a human?

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            The man is dead because he committed a felony and gave the cops no choice. “You know like in child.” It’s obvious you’re the ignorant one.

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            He did not put himself in direct line and you can see the car turn to the right to go around the cop car. You must be trolling or maybe even work for this website to stir things up. Your mentioning of cops being mentally ill is completely false. Being psychotic doesn’t necessarily make you mentally ill. I’m sure there have been moments in your life that were so traumatic that you expressed some form of psychosis. Plus you have nothing to back this up besides says “Google it.” You can find anything you want on the internet but unless it’s something like a peer reviewed journal verified by real professionals then you got nothing. Your bias is so obvious it’s makes all of your statements irrelevant. Stop calling this guy a boy, you sound like an idiot.

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            People like you who make assumptions and give criminals the benefit of the doubt is what’s wrong with our society. For you to assume you know exactly what he was thinking is ignorant. Not only that but it doesn’t matter if he was “just trying to get away” because if you run over a cop or almost run over a cop it’s still the same. According to your logic If he would have ran over the cop and killed him well then he shouldn’t be charged for murderer because he was “just trying to get away.” Ignorance is bliss. You were never a cop. You sound like a liar in general that’s full of excuses for violence.

          • Killwhitey

            that cowardly dick got out of his car and put himself in harms way by trying to shoot oneal. If he stayed his ass in the car he wouldnt have had the chance to get run over

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            If the thug wouldn’t have spolen the car then the cop wouldn’t have gotten out of his car. Next!

          • Killwhitey

            okay so theres a stolen car. . .in motion. . .rather than use the advanced mobility of my own car i figure getting out of my car and on foot is the best way to apprehend a criminal motorist. . .hmmm

        • B-rad

          You’re and idiot, fear monger and racist yourself. It doesn’t matter what skin color you are, it matters how you treat others. If you are black, I’m sorry that cops treat you different. It’s true… but so is the skyrocket high crime rate per capita of Black communities. The over aggressive black culture against cops, and the recent history of Black people “hunting white cops” so sing your little racist song all you want. You look like an ignorant socialist looking forward to your next set of handouts that you fear (rightfully so) Trump will take away. #trytheJohnson

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            could it be that the blacks are arrested for nothing, sometimes?
            that would make it seem that the blacks are committing more crime when they are just being falsely arrested…

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Uh no it couldn’t be. Even if that were true it certainly wouldn’t be enough to even things out. If arrest rates are hard for you to believe just look the murder rates in black communities. Black people are crying like babies about what a very small percentage of police do to them when there own race kills them more than everything combined and multiplied.

          • Dominique Douglas

            Unfortunately it happens all the time. Their names get attached to arrest data, this data in turn makes it difficult for them to find work as you create criminal data that can be requested by companies, over 89% of black me stopped and frisked are determined to be innocent and released but the paper trail remains.

            White people also kill other white people.

            Black people talk about black on black crime with other members of the black community. We talk to the media about Police Brutality because it is an issue of power. Blacks that kill other blacks get prison. Cops get off scot-free with brutal murders.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_City

          • Brit_19

            LOL do you really believe your bullshit. American cops should fear white men the stats show cops are much more likely to be killed by white american men than any other race lol

          • Dominique Douglas

            Two black men were recently caught as cop killers. Take a seat B-rad. Your whole line of “..the recent history of Black people ‘hunting white cops'” is the issue we have today. You take two individuals who happen to be be black and turn it into the “Black History”. We have homegrown terrorists who happen to be white running into schools, movie theaters, malls, and rallies with semi-automatic weapons taking out legions of citizens and it has NOTHING to do with their whiteness.

            Take a seat B-rad. White people aren’t special, you don’t get a pass. In fact you fail the test. You are not impartial. The only people getting handouts are those who found a way to get blacks to slave for them, Asians to lay railroad for them, and Mexicans to mow their lawns — all the while calling people who do the work for you, lazy.

            Entitlements (aka handouts) are all yours. You are entitled to act a fool without discrediting your race. You are entitled to make mistakes and get back to life after saying sorry. You are entitled to see yourself represented in entertainment, movies, sports, etc., and all that is attributed to your hard work and not magic (aka TALENT).

            Take a seat.

        • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

          michael matthew komaromi gabriel… struthers ohio

          it seems to me that you are maybe a politician and a democrat…
          why do you think that it will get worse under trump… have you seen just how bad it has become with a democrat in office? and how can it be any worse… people are being murdered every day now…
          please explain to me what you mean…

          i was a democrat but now i am an independent…

          • B-rad

            You seem to be confused with painting a picture of what if’s, vs looking at the facts. Trump or Hillary will be a lot of the same. I’d prefer Trump if I had to pick one of the 2 but like you identified yourself, I too am an independent voter and I currently support Gary Johnson. FACT: More violent crime happens in black minority areas than any other isolated community in the country. That’s not because cops make up lies… Truth: Venturing to guess cops lie vs watching a video of a criminal in a stolen car almost run an officer over (even if the cop blocked his get away route) is asinine and is a large part of what is wrong with our country today (to borrow a quote from you)

          • Killwhitey

            The numbers say blacks commit more crimes but thats just because blacks are arrested more often for it. Dylan roof got cheeseburgers and korryn gaines got her door knocked down and her kid shot.

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Nice try but what’s your excuse for the murder rates in black communities? Are cops holding people’s hands in guns and forcing them to pull the trigger? Nice try but you lose.

          • Killwhitey

            Whats your excuse for the reasons why people in these communities are impoverished in the first place?

            If black and brown people are often unfairly stopped and arrested more often than lighter skinned people it stands to reason that regardless of whether the arrests were constitutional or not the numbers are going to reflect that.

          • budfudlacker

            These blacks have the same opportunities as any other community. They have access to education, and their poverty could stop there if they’d straighten their a$$es up and quit trying to be the victim of everything. Their thug-hive-mind mentality infects their ilk. It’s not “cool” for them to be traditionally successful by taking education seriously. The black community is their own worst enemy.

          • Killwhitey

            ur literally a retard. castrate and kill urself plz 4 the betterment of the rest of the gene pool

          • budfudlacker

            Touched a nerve, huh Iceman? Don’t want to hear the truth, do ya? You’re the one with the obsession for killing things and an evidently dibilitating anger issue, so I think it’s obvious who is the most worthless between us. Your hatred and violent tendencies certainly aren’t improving the gene pool, for sure.

          • Killwhitey

            violence is a part of nature. your stupidity however shouldnt be. most worthless? lol i havent said shit about killing things, i just want you to kill urself lulz

          • budfudlacker

            Your denial regarding your insinuations and comments about killing people shows just how hypocritical, stupid and angry you are. Unbelievable lol.

          • Killwhitey

            lulz kill urself, i don wanna do it

          • budfudlacker

            Touched a nerve, huh Iceman? Don’t want to hear the truth, do ya? You’re the one with the obsession for killing things and an evidently dibilitating anger issue, so I think it’s obvious who is the most worthless between us. Your hatred and violent tendencies certainly aren’t improving the gene pool, for sure.

            I don’t expect anything less from hypocrites, however.

          • Dominique Douglas

            You are delusional. Blacks have many opportunities but they have many more stumbling blocks. Some of them come from within the black community but a lot of them come from society. For every black man that is found guilty of a crime during Stop and Frisk operations, nine are found innocent and let go. Let’s say that one of those black men was on his way to an interview. You have just put him out of the running because of the color of his skin. You have created a cycle.

            It is VERY cool to be traditionally successful.

            It sounds like you need some black friends. One of the biggest issues with race in America right now is that almost 8 in 10 Whites say that they interact exclusively with other whites. Every other race interacts with people of other races at a much higher rate. Whites are isolated and paranoid.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i am not confused… facts are the most important to me and i do my best to find them… i very rarely make statements when i do not have the facts…

            when i was an officer i saw other officers make an arrest based on lies that the officer stated were true… and he lied… and cops lie quite a bit… i know… i was an officer… surely you have read stories that have stated that an officer lied about an arrest and conviction… and the person is found to be innocent later on… and sometimes set free…
            officers commit the crime of false arrest…. it has already been proven that they falsely arrest… and that would drive up the crime rate in an area… only The Most High knows the complete truth..

            what quote did you borrow from me?

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            False arrests do not drive up crime rate. Please show some proof of that. You say you rarely make statements without facts so let’s see them. It doesn’t name sense in anyway for some to say, “I was falsely arrested and now that I’m out I’m going to go commit some crimes.” Not only that but it’s nearly impossible to prove this theory. The only way would be to ask people that get arrested if they were ever previously falsely arrested and if so did it motivate them to commit a crime. We’d also have to make sure they are being completely honest and I don’t think there’s such thing as an honest criminal. I believe it has some sort of affect but not that drastic. Also just saying you’re a cop so you know it does, is not a fact.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            false arrest show more crime then is actually happening… how could you not know that? you must be an officer…

          • Dominique Douglas

            More violent crime happens in black areas (minority is redundant) because there is less wealth in those areas. Poor white areas have a significant amount of crime as well, they probably account for the majority of white crime.

            It is asinine for you to believe that blacks are simply more criminal because they are black.

          • Dominique Douglas

            Trump stands for nothing but himself. The right has essentially moved itself so far right that it is in an alternate universe. Barrack Obama was called “elitist” and “arrogant” and “self-serving” throughout his tenure. What’s amazing to me, is that those descriptors are all very accurate of the current Republican nominee.

            Trump has buildings and golf courses and streets and menswear all dedicated to his namesake. He lives in absolute luxury and claims to have billions of dollars. He has had three trophy wives and therefore multiple divorces. He has shipped jobs out to China and India. Arrogance, elitism, and a self-serving attitude are what made him famous. Yet, it is somehow more palatable from the right than it is from the left.

            People are being killed every day because Obama was neutered. He was undermined by a half of the country that sent watermelon and birther jokes throughout his time in office. An intelligent, well-spoken African-American president was NEVER meant to be in this country’s narrative. It was terrifying for people, especially rich white people (not necessarily informed poor whites) that believed that they were losing influence.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i agree… except obama is not the first black president… his mom is white and his day is black… the term that applies to him is mulatto…. he is not a true black man… therefore not the first black president…

          • Dominique Douglas

            Mulatto is a derogatory term that was used during slavery, as is quadroon, etc. They probably shouldn’t be used in modern day discourse unless your intention is to offend.

            Fact: Most African-Americans have some European ancestry, as most whites have some African ancestry. If Obama never told the world that his mother was white, he would be treated as a black man. Think back to the one-drop rule, paper-bag tests, etc., that have historically defined race relations in America. If this were pre-Civil Rights Era America, Barrack Obama would have to use the black restroom, the black water fountain, and would have to sit in the back of the bus. He would be prosecuted/beaten/ and ignored if used the whites only facilities and ridiculed if he said his mother was white and therefore should have the “privilege” (read special rights for my friend, mister budfudlacker). Obama identifies as black because in his day to day actions, that is how people see him.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i am sorry if i offended you… i do not mean to offend anyone by using that word…. what should we call a person who has a white parent and a black parent? they cannot be called black or white… i understand that he is still a man and i really do not care what color a persons skin is… it is the person in the skin that matters to me… does the person stand for the good or the bad… that is what matters to me…
            i never heard the word quadroon before…if you don’t mind will you explain its meaning… if you do mind i will understand…
            i do not know about the one drop rule or any of the other examples you state…
            it troubled me greatly when i learned how the negro was treated in the past and is still treated today…what term do the dark skin people in africa and all over the world use to describe their skin color?
            i learned that conversation with budfudlacker is a waste of time…
            he is one who will disregard the truth for confusion…. it can be pointed out to him that he is speaking lies and he will just disregard it… and then go on to say more b.s….. speaking reason with him is a waste because he is not reasonable…. i think that he is a police officer because (it is my opinion) he fits the profile… he seems to act like a mentally disturbed person…. and i recently learned that one of the professions with the most psychotic persons is the police…. they rank seventh on the list of the professions with the most psychotics… so now we should know why they act so crazy… many are…

        • Racerx9965

          It’s crazy a black criminal should feel safe while breaking the law. That’s why we have insurance and it’s no big deal. I would not mind if my car was stolen right

        • ConservativeWaysSave

          You’re probably the most racist on here. I feel sorry for you.

      • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

        michael matthew komaromi gabriel… struthers ohio
        strange that you are called a thug because you feel it was wrong to shoot an unarmed man in the back… police do not have to shoot to kill… they want to shoot to kill… it is their choice… i wonder why they do not shoot to wound an unarmed man…
        it is also strange that paul thompson would print that you should be marked… maybe he doesn’t understand that he is being a thug by writing such things to you…
        maybe he doesn’t understand that you are standing for what you feel is fair and just…
        and it seems that jt75le is trying to convince himself or herself that the shooting was justified by stating three times that is was justified…

        any person with a mind of reason, fairness and justice will know that a person who is unarmed and running from an officer should not be shot in the back and killed… (murdered)

        paul thompson, should i be marked now for standing for what i feel is fair and just? are you now going to act like a thug towards me?… and who did the dead man attempt to murder… he was trying to get away not murder…..
        it is people who do not stand for fairness and justice that will help to bring this world to its end… so be it…

        • Ken Andrews

          You cannot use deadly force to. intentionally wound, only to kill. If an officer had the legal justification to use deadly force and intentionally shot the thug in the arm and he permanently lost use of his arm, the thug would have a great lawsuit. Deadly force can only be met with deadly force. A car can be a weapon. So can a brick, so can a shovel etc. Whether in the military or Law Enforcement , if you are going to shoot someone , you always shoot to kill. ” Winging ” someone is for the movies.

          • Killwhitey

            He wasnt using deadly force against the kkkops.

          • redleg500

            What do you call using the car?

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            “killwhitey” how funny lmfao

          • Killwhitey

            driving the car? More like trying to escape a murderer

          • iffydiffy

            You mean driving a car he stole from somebody else. You make it sound like he was out for a Sunday drive in his mom’s Buick. And it was the fourth car they stole that day by the way. Escape a murderer? Look, the cops didn’t wake up that morning and go looking to shoot this guy. They are not murderers.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            then the officer should not have been shooting at the young boy…
            the boy had no weapon… other officers were shooting at the boy also…. the officer that killed the boy thought that the boy was shooting when it was other officers… the officer made the mistake of thinking the boy was shooting… boy dies… accidental killing…. manslaughter is what the officer should be charged with…
            if cops can get away with murder than why can’t they get away with wounding a person? and they are sued when they kill a person and sometimes end up paying so your logic does not make sense… and the taxpayer ends up paying…
            did you know that the profession with the most psychotics is the c.e.o. of a business… number one on the list….
            number seven on the list of professions with the most mentally ill psychotics is the police…
            researchers just recently published the story… google it…
            are you a police officer?

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Lmfao did you say “young boy?” That’s some funny as shit. This was not some young little boy as you describe him. Also no one knows of that thug had a weapon until after he was on the ground. If he did have a gun and the cop hesitated and the thug turned around and shot him then what? No one in their right mind is going to assume someone who tried running over and killing a cop with a stolen car doesn’t have a weapon. It is more likely that he did, although he didn’t, and it’s not the job of a cop to take that risk. Your “facts” about psychotic people is hardly believable. Saying “Google it” doesn’t make it true and psychotic can mean many things. I would also assume cops dealing with thugs like these would have to deal with some mental issues. “They are sued sometimes and end up paying.” Well that comment has nothing to do with this at all. Sometimes there are unjustified killings and most of the time when a killing is justified and the family sues and gets paid it’s because the jury is bias or the just feels sorry for them. They think giving them money will help even though it doesn’t. The facts are that this is a tragedy and the man didn’t have die, but the man thug took that risk by stealing the car like an idiot. You keep acting like everyone is saying he deserved to die for stealing the car because it fits your ignorant narrative. No one is saying he deserved to be killed for stealing a car but his actions forced the police to kill him. If he wouldn’t have ran after he was caught and didn’t try to run over a cop it’s a 100% guarantee that he’d still be alive. No body that is running after someone who just tried to kill them with a car is going to give that person another chance to kill them. Anyone with a brain would assume the thug was still armed because if he was then that cop could just have easily been killed. You also keep saying he was unarmed as though everyone in the world knew that but the cop didn’t care and was going to shoot him either way. What if the thug did have a gun and ran into a house and held a family hostage and ended up killing them. You’re playing Monday morning QB by saying he was unarmed so I get to play too by saying he very well could have been armed.

          • Dominique Douglas

            Please learn how to spell.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i did not describe him as a young little boy…. you must be an officer… you seem to fit right in with some of them…
            you are as crazy to say that his actions forced the police to murder him… he was running away from the officer… are you saying that the officer was forced to kill him because of his action of running from the officer or are you referring to when he was driving the car… if you are referring to him driving the car then you have just described a murder… do you understand that? think about it….
            sure i keep saying he was unarmed… that is because he was unarmed…
            you have just stated that the officer is the judge, jury, and killer of a criminal without having a trial… you must be an officer… please tell me are you an officer?
            your posts to me and others cause me to think that you are a psychotic person who cares little about another person life… you have to be an officer…. researchers have shown that the police rank seventh on the list of professions with the most psychotics…. ever read it… google it…
            no more replies to you…. it is a waste of my time…

      • Racerx9965

        One less thug to worry about causing hard working law abiding citizens grief

        • Killwhitey

          #thankyoudallas five less thugs

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Poor poor racist fool. You’re so unintelligent and it’s just so sad. I feel sorry for excuses like you. Blame everyone but yourself so you can keep those free handouts coming. “Government cheese” right? You’re a good little liberal doing as you’re told and thinking how you’re told to think. Although it’s obvious you couldn’t think for yourself anyway so it’s just easier to do and believe what you’re told like a good little tool.

          • Killwhitey

            lulz u mad bruh?
            #catsnotcops

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            No, I’m sad. I feel sorry for you and as much as you’d like me to be your “bruh” I’m not.

          • Killwhitey

            sad for me but not the victims of police terror

            i feel sorry for all the people you contribute to th oppression of on a daily basis

    • James Latham

      This officer jumped out of car right into the path of the fleeing car. He put himself in the situation. Firing that many bullets in a residential neighborhood put many other lives in danger. These foul mouthed racist redneck cops all need to be fired.

      • Bailee Barnes

        Your momma did a bad job of raising you!

        • Brit_19

          His momma raised him to respect human life. Bailee Barnes you are just another nasty racist justifying police murder

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Uh, no, you’re the racist.

          • Dominique Douglas

            Why is racist the last thing a white person wants to be called?

            If you’re racist, you’re racist. So what? At least be honest!

            CoservativeWaysSave. All of your comments are racist! You’re racist!

      • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

        you are right… you comment is just common sense… not only were the residents put in harms way… the other officers were also in the line of fine… it seems that the police just keep showing just how mentally ill they are…

        • Ken Andrews

          Why don’t you put on the uniform and show us how to do the job ?

          • Killwhitey

            Why dont you stop shooting at people?

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Lol, yeah there is no such thing as black cops.

          • Killwhitey

            Not until they take their badges off. A cop is a cop is a cop is a cop.

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Then why all the racism?

          • Killwhitey

            what racism? Against smurfs? i dont follow

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i did already… i was an officer many years ago… i could not accept their criminal acts against the citizen… the stealing, false arrests, false police reports.. not all officers but there were some who were criminals…
            are you an officer? i read a story about officers being psychotic… police ranked seventh on the list of professions with the most psychotics… c.e.o.’s of a business was number one on the psychotic list…

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Bullshit, you were never a cop, lmfao

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            here we go again… you are lying again… how would you know if i were ever a cop or not? there you go again showing how dumb you are…

      • ConservativeWaysSave

        Uh, no he didn’t.

    • Brit_19

      We all saw the video stop lying the teen was driving on the road never mounted the sidewalk the cops’s incompetence put himself at risk. We heard the shots and noticed the pauses between shots the saw the cop kicking a dying unarmed teenager. These police are nothing but scum murdering thugs

      • ConservativeWaysSave

        Lmao, yeah the cop out himself at risk, not the thug criminal in a stolen car. You make so much sense. What was that thinking trying to stop that thug. He should have just let him go and keep car and the thug would still be alive. Who cares about the person who has their car stolen. They can get a new one right? I’m also so sure that the thug probably deserved that car because that government cheese isn’t enough and because his great great great great great grandparents have been slaves.

    • Dominique Douglas

      The number of times that you felt the need to type the word ‘justified’ seems a bit overzealous. Then again, I think that attempting to justify EVERY use of deadly force by a law enforcement officer in opposition to low-level crime (the sell of loosies, possible but unfounded fare-evasion on the BART, playing with a BB-gun while twelve years old at the park) is zealot-like behavior. It definitely isn’t reasonable.

  • Out of the Fray

    Don’t worry the br”ass” in Chiraq has already hung the three officers out to dry. Special Ed the Supe is incompetent and is more worried about the lieutenant exam cheating scandal. This will take some of the heat off of that.
    30+ year detective and glad to be gone………………

    • lily

      Did you follow policy and procedure or you were rogue?

      • Out of the Fray

        Never had a complaint filled against me or my partner, but then I knew when someone was trying to kill me. First time anyone called me rogue though. Followed the rules and had no issues. And please get out your grammar primer and look at the chapter on Sentence Structure.

      • Out of the Fray

        Too bad ABC deleted my response to you. I pity you; may you live forever…….

  • CmE

    This stupid policy about using a vehicle as a deadly weapon and cops cannot shot at the perp NEEDS to be changed.

    • Gio

      I’m confused, are you saying cops aren’t allowed to shoot at people who try to run them over?, please explain more clearly, because I’ve never heard of such thing, that would make a car the perfect weapon/shield.

    • lily

      Numerous cities have outlawed car pursuits as they are far too dangerous to the public. That is why we use helicopters. Too many innocent victims have been killed as a result of car pursuits.

      • Guy

        It’s extremely rare for a city to have a helicopter. Numerous criminal;s get away because the police are not allowed to chase them, this results in more people being their victims.

  • adobong_paksiw

    Agree totally with the tunnel vision thing.

  • Christian Cherniss

    It’s Chicgo who cares what’s one added tot he 200 …?

  • 0_0

    No big deal, just another dead loser.

  • Gio

    I see no police brutality or wrong doing here, O’Neal tried to kill a cop, then rammed his car into a police car.

    I see a lot of people on Youtube already defending this guy, forget that he tried to run over a cop, we all know that 99% of this people would have shot O’Neal themselves over an Elantra if the could, imagine what they’d do over a Jaguar.

    I can get behind any movement that wants equality and fair treatment, but I can’t defend criminals, I just can’t turn a blind eye to the truth when its all over the screen, clear as day.

    • John Smith

      Playing devil’s advocate here…
      But how can you see that he ‘tried’ to kill a cop? Yes a cop was almost hit by a car, but you can’t argue that it was with intent to kill, and that could change the way you respond with lethal force…

    • Korteztk

      Nobody tried to kill a cop. It was the reverse. He tried to get away.

      • William Jackson

        Trying to run over a police officer in an attempt to get away is attempted murder. Tell all your criminal friends out there that if they want to play the game, they risk their lives. Moral of the story, if you make the choice to be a criminal, then when the police arrive, give up immediately and follow the instructions given to you by the police, and you are not likely to be shot. Crime is not a game, its not an acceptable career choice because you feel disadvantaged. Start teaching your children that crime is wrong (and that you earn the punishment you receive) and to respect the police officers that you encounter, even if the officer is wrong, remain cooperative and respectful and live to have your day in court.

    • Cranky Old Man

      How is getting out the car and running away “trying to kill a cop”? It is nothing more than cowardice to defend what the police did and to do so with a lie. Parking the car and running away is not, “ramming his car”. Nothing is more unAmerican than making up lies and excuses for throwing away our rights as individuals. We let the police do this to petty criminals, we are next. You are an excellent example of the spineless and the brainless.

      • AAA

        He had tried to commit murder during his flight from another crime. The Supreme Court in Garner v. Tennessee ruled that if he was a threat to others in his escape deadly force was authorized

        • Cranky Old Man

          AAA, your claim the police established he was a threat to others by running away is laughable crap. So how many years did this 18 year old serve for his attempted murder in “another crime”? You are a cowardly person who gladly exchanges our freedoms for your false sense of security. Letting the police execute people in the streets without probable cause is not something a free people passively agree to. You are spineless and brainless.

          • Breakdown02

            @Crank Old Man…..Tennessee vs Garner gives an officer the right to shoot a fleeing felon if he’s committed a forcible felony. O’Neal trying to run over a police officer is a forcible felony under Illinois law. This, plus the officer who shot O’Neal, mistakenly believed O’Neal was shooting at their squad, when it was really his partners. This would also constitute another forcible felony in that if you watch the videos, the officer who fired the fatal shot clearly thought it was O’Neal shooting.

            Then you have to add in the fact that the officer who fired the fatal shot was just in a crash strong enough to set off the air bags and severely damage the squad and severely damage the front of the vehicle O’Neal was driving. If you’ve ever been involved in a head on crash like that, you’re head will be jarred. Between the stress of believing the suspect tried to run over another officer, believing the suspect was shooting at him and the head on collision, this would lead to the perfect storm that led to O’Neals death.

            This was no execution. And the officer has to be judged under what a reasonable officer would have done under the same circumstances.

            Now, the goofs that continued shooting after the initial threat of being run over was over, they are just dumb and lucky they didn’t shoot their partners. I truly believe tunnel vision took over but I will not allow that to be used as an excuse when they could have killed their partners or an innocent person on the street.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            why do so many not accept that he was not trying to run over a police officer? if he wanted to hit the officer he could have… but he chose to drive past the officer… what is the problem with you people? are you all officers or people who have friends or relatives in law enforcement? how can so many deny what is true? and the truth is in the video… he did not try to run over the cop…

          • Cranky Old Man

            You are repeating yourself. The case you cite is not applicable to this case – and you know that. But you see deception as a virtue. Right and wrong is of no interest to you. Klan culture is built on lying and deceiving. The kid was shot in the back while running away. Who but a coward uses convoluted lies to justify a legal precident for sidewalk death penalty in the USA?
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/three-chicago-officers-may-have-violated-policy-in-fatal-shooting-police-chief-says/2016/08/06/843a987a-5c03-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

          • William Jackson

            So he was stealing a car, tried to run over a police officer, and then wanted to get away so he could continue his life of crime. Didn’t matter to him that the police officer he tried to run over has a family, and is performing a legal way of making a living, and the criminal ended up losing his life, That’s a shame, and also TFB. His parents and friends should have taught him better. Children of all races need to be taught that if you roll the dice with a life of crime, sometimes you pay the maximum price, so don’t risk your life in criminal activities. Obey the law and you will have no problems with police shooting at you !!!

          • Cranky Old Man

            “tried to run over a police officer”
            Flat out lie and would never fly in court. Video shows he side swiped a patrol car. When you have to make of lies to win an argument – you lost before you started. Oh, and there is that small detail that he was shot in the back while running away – he was not shot while side swiping the patrol car.
            Fail!

          • William Jackson

            Go back and watch the whole video, and at 1:15 you’ll see that the officer exits his car and has to jump out of the way to avoid being run over. That is indeed considered attempting to run over a police officer. The criminal should have stopped and surrendered, and he’d still be alive. The brainless and spineless ones are his parents and friends. You are correct in that this is the USA, and we are a nation of laws, when you break those laws, and then continue breaking laws while you flee, you are responsible for ALL of your actions (intentional or otherwise). If someone breaks into my home while I am there, he/she or they will leave in body bags, I shoot first and worry about weapons later, I don’t believe in warnings because the criminal knows that he is breaking the law (that is his warning)

          • Killwhitey

            Waaaaaaait. . .he jumped out of his car. . . to avoid being run over. . .?

          • William Jackson

            If you are unable to read then you should have someone read it to you. I said, the officer exits his car and has to jump out of the way to avoid being run over. When a police officer blocks your path, you are not entitled to run him over, you must stop. If you wish to break the law, and then make it worse by not stopping for officers (or innocent civilians ) then you are rolling the dice, and you deserve whatever happens.

          • Killwhitey

            right. . .so what youre saying is, if he, i dunno, stayed his monkey ass in the car and didnt draw his gun, he wouldnt have put himself in harms way?

          • William Jackson

            Wow, and I thought the criminal driving the stolen car was dumb. Turns out that you are even worse than he is. From your chosen screen name and the comment you just made, the only racist involved in this situation is YOU. I have no use for racists of any color. I’ll pray for you.

          • Killwhitey

            didnt say anything about racism lol u mad bro?

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            It’s the cops job to try and stop the thug. Most people see a person in street and avoid them. Yet the cop was crazy for trying to do his job? Lmao…tools

          • Killwhitey

            no he was crazy for doing his job the way he did. if he remained in his vehicle he couldve created a roadblock to deter the suspect from driving further. by exiting his vehicle not only did he contribute in creating a less safe situation he also allowed the suspect to get away.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            when did he try to run over a police officer???
            did you ever think that he might be a frightened kid?
            it seems to me that you have very little compassion for others…

          • William Jackson

            If you actually watch all of the video, at 1:15 the officer opens his door gets out, and has to jump out of the way or he would have been run over. At that point he should have given up, and he’d still be alive. I have little compassion for criminals, once they reach the age of 18 (as he was in this case) . The failure here was by the parents and friends, not teaching him to obey the law. The police were doing their job of protecting law abiding citizens. If the same criminal breaks into my home while I’m at home, he’ll still be dead, unlike the police, I don’t wait to see a weapon, that could cost me or a member of my family our lives. (when the police arrive, he’d have a weapon )

          • Cranky Old Man

            Wrong. In the video you see the policeman, at 1:12 stop his car short of blocking the approaching stolen car and exit his patrol car to put himself in the path of stolen car. At 1:15 he has himself cleared of the path of the car, gun ready and aimed at the driver. This was his intent, to stand clear of the vehicle and shoot at it. You are a liar to say he jumped out of the way.

            He left the path open by stopping short of the parked truck, he chose to exit in front of the approaching car, gun drawn, and shot at it from angle that the video shows was not in the path of the vehicle. And this is why his police dept chief has said this cop and the other cops who shot at him, eventually executing him as he ran away, did not follow proper procedure.

            You are a liar simply because you want to justify being a coward who defends police who believe they get to be judge and executioner of defiant petty criminals. The kid stole a car and executed for it. That is called murder.

          • William Jackson

            Petty criminals know the risk they take, if they are too dumb to know that then the gene pool is improved with them gone. He had it coming, and the way you speak to others I’d say you’ll eventually get yours too. I’d like to spend more time teaching you the difference between a lie and a difference of opinion, but my grandfather taught me ” Never try to teach a pig to sing, . . it wastes your time and annoys the pig” , and you sir qualify as a pig. Have a nice day !

          • Cranky Old Man

            The way I speak to others? And then you write, ” I’d say you’ll eventually get yours too.” This is you referring to me getting the death penalty on the sidewalk by a cop keeping you safe from petty criminals. You are a pathetic coward with no clue what it means to care about the rights and freedoms Americans fight and die for everyday. A spineless brainless coward – that is exactly what you are. You’re pathetic.
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/three-chicago-officers-may-have-violated-policy-in-fatal-shooting-police-chief-says/2016/08/06/843a987a-5c03-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            yes.. i did see the video and i saw a car driving towards the cruiser… i saw an officer disregard his safety and open his door as the car was driving towards the cruiser… the officer stepped out in front of the line of travel of the young mans car… don’t you think that that was foolish? or maybe the officer was just trying to set up the kid for a shooting…
            but after the boy left his car there was no great threat… he could have had a weapon but he did not…he was just running away when he was shot in the back… handcuffed as he lay dying… with no help from the officers…. did you see that in the video?

          • William Jackson

            What the officer did was put his safety in jeopardy in an attempt to stop a criminal. That’s what police officers do every day in the line of duty. The criminal does not have a right to a “line of travel”, he is required to stop, and if he had done that he would still be alive. The only problem I have with the officers is that they fired on a moving vehicle and did not hit their target. If I had been one of those officers, the criminal would likely have died in the car (I don’t miss ). If I was their chief, they would be spending 8 hours a day at the firing range until they can hit what they aim at (moving or not). As far as I am concerned, God gave him a second chance to surrender and live, but he chose to run. The police had no way of knowing that he was “no great threat” because he had just shown that he was willing to kill or injure an officer in order to get away. So he WAS a threat until he shows that he is not, by stopping and putting his hands in the air. Oh wait, he didn’t do that, he kept running and got shot. It’s a shame that he died, but that happens sometimes when you get shot. He had not shown any concern about the lives of the officers or his younger passenger (who could have been killed by his actions) so boohoo for him. He was handcuffed because he was still alive and that is what happens after a criminal is stopped, unless he is obviously dead. Then they called for an ambulance, but he died anyway. If criminals want to live to steal another day, then they need to surrender when the police show up, man up and take their due punishment. Decide to run (especially over officers) and you could get shot, and you may die.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            so the officer tried to stop a criminal (who was driving a vehicle) with his body…. you have just verified that some of them are crazy…
            at the rate of speed the perp was traveling how could he stop his vehicle? how could he not have a right to a line of travel when he was driving the vehicle??? and it was headed in a certain direction..
            he did stop… and exited the vehicle…and he is now dead.. so you have made a false statement…
            the officers broke the rules by firing on a moving vehicle and broke the rules…. shows how much they cared for the rules and maybe the laws…
            so i see that you would break the rule also… would you also break the law?
            and again an unarmed person chose to run and was shot in the back by an officer who thought he was armed…
            and now a running boy is a great threat to the officers… they must be wimps….
            so you are saying that it is ok to shoot a person who is running away from an officer… but shouldn’t a person be doing something more then running to be shot in the back and killed?
            the boy showed no concern???…the officers showed no concern for the people in the neighborhood when they started shooting up the place… only thru the Grace Of God did no one get shot…-
            boohoo for him? you are showing yourself to have little or no compassion for the boy… are you a police officer also…
            researchers published a story about what professions had the most psychotics and the police ranked seventh on the list.. read the definition of a psychotic…
            so you were there? how would you know if he was alive… police have handcuffed others that they have shot and killed or murdered… witness’ have stated that fact…
            you must have been there because you seem to know much information about this case…or you are just b.s….
            you have made yourself to sound sick… “live to steal another day”???
            you sure do sound like an officer…
            no more replies to you…

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Compassion for a thug that just committed grand theft? Are you serious? Lmfao wow…

          • iffydiffy

            Sorry, but he was responsible for 4 car thefts that same day. I can’t buy the “frightened kid” story.

        • lily

          I’ll just give you the cliff note of Garner v. Tennessee and thank you for not going to law school.
          Analysis of the deadly force rule in the context of the mandates of the
          fourth, eighth, and fourteenth amendments clearly indicates that the use
          of deadly force against a nonviolent fleeing felon is unconstitutional.
          In the event, however, the Court finds that the fleeing felon rule does
          not violate the fourth or fourteenth amendments and reverses the Sixth
          Circuit, opponents of deadly force will be left with two options: to
          accept the Court’s ruling or find a new constitutional theory with which
          to attack the laws. An argument may be made that killing the fleeing
          felon who has not committed a crime of violence, and does not pose a
          threat of violence, violates the ninth amendment.

          Let me repeat that for you ….violates the ninth amendment.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i feel that driving a car in the manner that he drove does show an act of violence but why shoot him in the back and kill him…. they could have shot to wound…

          • Greg Sullivan

            so…. Here he is… running the stolen jag in between a parked car and the officers car..

            The officer is standing IN FRONT OF THE JAG..

            How in the fuck do you guys think that is not trying to run over the officer.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i usually do not answer people who act blind but …. if you see the video you will see that the officer stepped towards the perps vehicle and fired… it seems to me that anyone who can see, can see that the perps vehicle veered away from the officer and sideswiped the cruiser… had the perp been trying to strike the officer with his vehicle, he could (would) have done so….
            are you an officer of the law??? i can understand your blindness if you are…

          • Greg Sullivan

            You don’t shoot to wound or shoot to kill. You shoot to neutralize a threat. Death is a potential outcome of that though. If you just wound them, they can still wound, or kill you.

            This is not the movies where a guy can hang out the window of a moving car and shoot the gun out a guys hand a 100 yards.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            when i was an officer i never had the thought to shoot to kill… but not everyone is the same….
            and yes the perp can still wound.. but the perp must be armed to do so… and this kid was not armed was he? and it was other officers shots that caused the officer to think that the unarmed boy was shooting at the officer… or was the officer just telling a lie? accidental killing is called manslaughter and is a crime…
            and the officer began firing his gun in a residential area… putting the citizens and fellow officers in danger….
            he also broke the rules about shooting into a moving car… you cannot deny that….
            i know (and knew when i was an officer) when a person has a gun or knife… it is not hard at all to see in daylight….
            and of course this is not the movies… everyone who watches videos of police causing harm to a person knows that… especially when someone dies…

          • AAA

            pretty hard to hit a moving target regardless

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            are you a police officer…… no wonder this story has tones of bullshit… it was written by “officer blue”
            did you see the story of the researchers who learned that the police rank seventh in the list of professions who have the most psychotics…you know “psychos”…like “mentally disturbed”

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            are you a police officer… this story was written by “officer blue”
            did you see the story that states police officers rank seventh on the list of psychotics in professions…. c.e.o. of a business is number one….psycho… mentally ill… disturbed…. you do understand…

          • AAA

            ‘Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force. Thus, if the suspect threatens the officer with a weapon or there is probable cause to believe that he has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm, deadly force may be used if necessary to prevent escape, and if, where 12*12 feasible, some warning has been given. As applied in such circumstances, the Tennessee statute would pass constitutional muster.

            Pg 12 I did go to law school you did not it is a brief not cliff notes

          • AAA

            The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.” ?
            I t would be the 4th for all law enforcement with 14th for states

        • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

          and when did he try to commit murder during his flight from another crime? he was not trying to hit any officers with the car…
          it seems to me that many officers are just mentally ill… and others suffer because of the officers mental illness…

          • Greg Sullivan

            Michael. I see youre just troll posting.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            it seems to me that you do not know what you are talking about…
            no wait… you do not know what you are talking about…

            a story came out a few days ago about which professions had the most psychopaths (a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior) (an unstable and aggressive person) you have heard the saying “that guys a psycho” most of us understand the meaning of psycho…
            police officers ranked seventh on the list… that is pretty close to the top…number one is the c.e.o. of a company…(business)

            so will you please be so kind to explain to me what you consider troll posting? unless the truth is troll posting…. explain please…
            are you a police officer?

      • redleg500

        I don’t think he “parked the car”.

        • Cranky Old Man

          Yea right, he jumped out and left the car in gear and let it roll down the street by itself.
          You don’t think, that part you have right.

          • redleg500

            Obviously you have a sensory issue. Perhaps you should get that looked at.

          • Cranky Old Man

            I sense you have nothing to argue, you’re just trolling.

          • redleg500

            I have plenty to argue especially when you make asinine comments.

          • Cranky Old Man

            This from the guy who wants to quiver over the meaning of the word park as in parking a car before you get out to gun someone down. Clearly you do not have the brains or the balls to try to argue anything meaningful.

          • redleg500

            Words mean something. Probably not to you so much by reading your posts but still. As far as the other part, when you feel froggy MF, just jump.

          • Cranky Old Man

            Yea words mean something, which is why the best you can do is argue the meaning of “parked”. No balls and no brains to articulate any meaningful argument related to the subject at hand. But hey, at least you put a picture of a gun with your name here. That way we all know what about you? That you live in fear and want everyone to know you can protect yourself. Mean while all over America there women moving about the country with no gun at all. No balls – no brains!

          • redleg500

            LOL…hey DA, you’re the dumb MF that used the word “park”, not me. Any NORMAL person (note: this excludes you for obvious reason), know what parked means. Perhaps you need airless more education.

            As to the rifle, I enjoy hunting . I don’t live in fear of anyone or anything. You have nothing to fear from it as well unless you’re dumb enough to try something against me or my family And,yes, you have no balls or brains but that’s no surprise either from your asinine posts on here

          • Cranky Old Man

            You’re imagining that you and are debating who used the work “park” to describe what the cop in the video did to put himself in front of the stolen car coming at him. I correctly said that you found my use of the word a subject to argue over. Try to keep up here if you can. As for the rifle, I enjoy hunting just like you, I am a gun owner too. Unlike you, I don’t craft an image of myself as one with a gun, that would be you.

            I say it is nothing more than cowardice when men never shut up about how they feel about guns and always have to have them be the center of their lives. Your response to me about “unless you are dumb enough to try something against me (and this is the crucial part) or my family”, this you displaying your hero fantasy about how your gun makes you the man of your house. Guns can not make you a man. How you treat other people is what makes you a man. And unless you are here on this page to express your outrage for the execution of a petty criminal for committing the crime of refusing to stop when police tried to stop him, in my book, you’ve failed to be a man, you’re a scared boy who thinks killer cops who think they are above the law is what you need to feel safe. This is the USA, not China or Saudi Arabia, we have a Constitution that we hold sacred that guarantees our rights. That car thief in no way tried to kill one of those cops, and he sure as hell didn’t try to do it while running away.
            https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WJL9B1SE12I/hqdefault.jpg

          • redleg500

            Of course you’re more than welcome to your opinion. But that’s all it is, an opinion.

            As to what weapons mean to me is none of your concern. If you have a concern about guns then get out from behind your computer, put on a uniform and defend that Constitution.

          • Cranky Old Man

            If I have a concern about the Constitution I won’t be killing Muslims in oil rich foreign lands to protect it, I will be arguing every chance I can get with the hypocritical cowards here in the USA who fraudulently pose as protectors of our rights and freedoms. Cowards who trade their freedom for a false sense of security.

          • redleg500

            Oh, so you want to play a home game instead of an away game. As for you, you choose to do it from behind a computer screen. That’s typical of you kind.

          • Cranky Old Man

            When it comes to dying for oil riches in a far away land, who are the oil riches for? It is for Americans to have cheap oil. So when millions of men women and children die in oil rich states, that is as you say, “a home game”. The dollar is not backed by gold and hasn’t been for decades. Petrol dollars sustains our economy. Saddam Hussein signed his death warrant when he announced he was not going to accept dollars for payment of Iraqi oil. Iraq, of course, has some of the most valuable oil on earth in terms of, volume, cheapest to extract, cheapest to refine, and cheapest to get to port for shipping. The USA illegally attacked that nation for no other reason except to control the oil wealth it has. Millions of people have died because of that invasion. For someone like you, that means nothing. You are a mindless sheeple, a graduate of Fox News University.
            http://www.greanvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/iraq-warVistims-children.jpg

          • redleg500

            Your suppositions are so incredulous there beyond asinine. If you want to sit back and wait till it comes fullbore in the US that your problem. You enjoy your freedoms but you’re not willing to do anything to earn them that’s quite clear by now.
            .

          • Cranky Old Man

            The idea of you believing Islamists are more of a threat than the white trash Christian identity gun hugging cowards “locked and loaded” knees shaking at the sight of a black man in his neighborhood, is you making asinine incredulous statements.
            Are you clueless about the long term foreign policies of the USA meddling in the affairs of oil rich Muslim nations? You are.

            White Christian identity is the single greatest threat to American freedom in this nation. Who was it that voted for President Cheney, not once, but two times? Who cowardly bought into his lies that got us into the endless wars that has cost this nation trillions of dollars and cost millions of Muslim lives? Who are the spineless morons with no balls and no brains to understand the rage Muslims have for Americans for how utterly clueless they are about the misery our cheap oil cost them?

            You disgust me with your cowardly denial of how Americans would react if a foreign power came over here and was exterminating us and taking the only natural resource we had to sustain us.

            You are a gutless coward to try to pretend with me that Islamists hate us “for our freedoms”. They hate us because of spineless cowards like you!
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

          • redleg500

            What the hell do you know about foreign policy?? Not a GD thing! “President Cheney” huh? You know if you get out from behind your monitor, you might discover a whole other world out there.

            You’re the disgusting one here by far. As far as being spineless, it’s obvious you’re speaking from experience

          • Cranky Old Man

            Oh, so you believe Bush ran this nation and not the CEO of Halliburton? Just like all the graduates of Fox News University, no clue at all about the real world. And what do I know about USA foreign policy is no secret to those of us who are not informed by hillbilly hate radio and Fox News. It doesn’t take a genius to understand the rage Muslims have across this planet for the USA. I have kids and grand kids. What about you? How would you feel if a foreign power was doing to the USA and Canada what we are doing to the oil rich states? Do you have the balls to admit that you would up in arms and fighting back? Of course you do. So why are pretending that I need to put on a uniform to take a stand against Islamists wanting to kill us all? I am here taking a that stand, and it is against willfully ignorant people like you who wantonly allow themselves to be guided by their fears. Which is why I call you a coward.

            “The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself”. That quote doesn’t mean a thing to you does it. How about this one, “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvVilAlCBYc

          • redleg500

            Just what I thought, you don’t know a damn thing about foreign policy. Like I have stated no,Eros times, get out from being that computer and do something about it. You might want to get an education while you are at it since your earlier one didn’t take.

            You’re the coward. A yellow streak a mile wide. Yea, I’m calling you out. Calling you EXACTLY what you are. You say you are taking a stand? Really? I don’t see you standing for crap except for the garbage that you type here . Why didn’t you wear a uniform? A-holes like you love to bask in the light of what other young men and women provide for you.

          • Cranky Old Man

            Yea, it’s all about joining the military isn’t it? Which is why President Cheney was able to make $40 billion dollars in profits for Haliburton on just the Iraq war. What military branch did Cheney serve in? Oh yea, none. And Bush? Oh yea, he got the rich kids deferment of faking service.

            You and all of our up standing wrapped in the flag, bible in one hand, and gun in the other hand voters, took a stand for freedom and voted – not once – twice – to elect Cheney and company to guide the USA into a future of secured freedoms. They create the wars and you go along with the live-in-fear version of justifying those wars. Real brave of you.

            Mean while since Cheney was first elected we see the meaning and the value of the Constitution diminished now more than anytime in US history. That chapter in US history really took off with The Patriot Act, written before 911, signed by Cheney’s sidekick, GW Bush. Obama has been the police state President but you want hear about that from Fox News.

            Obama and Hillary are owned and controlled by the same people who owned and controlled Cheney and Bush. Obama sailed into office as the anti Republican candidate, and so will Hillary. The voters in this nation think they are getting a break when Republicans are not running the show. Who made our only choice a lessor of evils? Simple, the frauds wrapped in the flag, bible in one hand gun in the other. Klan cultured self hating people who believe the USA has the right to kill as many millions of people as they want to and if the people we are killing dare to fight back, why we will make heroes out of those who kill them for it. Here you are pretending my life and yours, as Americans, some how have more value than the lives of the victims of American hegemony.

            I no better a person than you are in every respect accept one – I am not liar when it comes to admitting who pays the biggest price so you and I can have the standard of living we have. I am not a racist who believes the lives of Americans supersede the value of the lives of Muslims caught up in the insanity of war and religious fundamentalism as a response for fighting that war.

            You and I are equals as beneficiaries of American foreign policy. only one of us has the balls and or the brains to admit at whose cost those benefits are made available to us.

            You have no clue what it means to value life liberty and the pursuit of happiness unless it is specifically for Americans, most likely white Americans. Nothing brave about you at all.

          • redleg500

            Wow you’re such a bigot. Your true colors are finally showing. F-ing coward

          • Cranky Old Man

            I’m the bigot? The guy who gives a shit about more than white Christian America? Ok, what ever you say.

          • redleg500

            Yes you are. I’m glad to see that you are starting to realize you are. Perhaps there is still hope for you

          • Cranky Old Man

            Awesome, so after all this, you decide to be brave enough to come out from hiding. First you start by calling me the bigot, then you grow the balls to admit I pegged you correctly as Klan cultured white Christian identity. After all of my indignation over the slaughter of innocent people in an illegal war, and your flat out refusal to even acknowledge that slaughter, you have the balls to tell me your core principals are based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. You are shameless when it comes to being a flat out fraud, which, after all, is the core principal of Klan culture, being a fraud. Your core principal is faith in gun culture, not God, and your understanding of this nation’s founding fathers is just the same, a bluff.

            One of things I learned from my parents who raised me from birth to have a personal relationship with Jesus God through the Holy Spirit, is that it is not possible to deceive an all knowing God. And this is the dilemma with Klan culture identity – Evangelism is all about believing you are Christian if only – if only – you can convince others – first – that you live your life as Jesus taught us to. If you can convince others to believe it, then, you tell yourself, you might be able to believe it. I don’t, not for one second, believe you are a Christ like person.

            All the bible quoting, all the “I am pro-life, I am against abortion” does not a Christian make. You knew better to even try that on me all the while you are here being a shameless racist bigot who never met a war you didn’t proudly support, and cop who executes black men for running away from a crime seen.

            You don’t understand the principals this nation was founded on, and certainly, don’t understand the teachings of Jesus Christ. What you understand is all about posing, all about faking who you are. You fully understand the core principal of Klan culture identity.

            You are here on this page for what reason? To support or condemn the execution of a black man for being a petty thief? Support or condemn the denial of his rights to due process? Support of deny the teachings of Jesus Christ?

          • redleg500

            Hey asshole, I understand the pincipals this country was founded on a hell of a lot better than you EVER will. You’ve never done anything to defend your country. Why don’t you try that or are you too much of a pussy? By your posts here, it’s the latter.

            A Christian? You? Really? That is laughable. What a self righteous prick

          • Cranky Old Man

            I never said I was a Christian, I said how my parents raised me. I have no religion. As for you defining patriotism for me, not going to happen. You live in the Fox News Nation, I live in the USA, two different places. One thing is for sure, I have never supported Cheney’s gang in their transferring of trillions of tax payers dollars to military contractors pockets all to destroy Muslim nations in the middle east and then pay them for failed nation building there. That would be the citizens of the Fox News Nation who wantonly support that.

            The culture of the Klan is built on self hate and self destruction who pose as patriotic soldiers of God who define morality based on things like slavery and endless wars that are now destabilizing the EU to Russia’s delight.

            http://www.politicalresearch.org/2016/08/18/dominionism-rising-a-theocratic-movement-hiding-in-plain-sight/#sthash.QBMJCLWy.OX1M5QuM.dpbs

          • redleg500

            News flash: I live in the good ole US of A too! So as far as you trying to define the kind of person I am is not going to hunt.

            I really don’t know why you keep referencing the klan? Perhaps you’re a card carrying member?

          • Cranky Old Man

            You are a text book example of a citizen of the Fox News Nation.

            And I keep referencing “the culture of the Klan”, not the same thing as “the Klan”.

          • redleg500

            Then you’re as blind as you are dumb

          • Cranky Old Man
      • ConservativeWaysSave

        Did you watch some other video? Lmfao you’re an idiot.

        • Cranky Old Man

          Is this your way of saying you’re not smart enough or you just don’t have the balls to state your position about this news story?

    • Toureag

      I’m all for law & order but I don’t understand why u think it’s ok for cops to shoot dead defenceless car thief in back & even handcuffed his lifeless hands? Why not chase, wrestle him with their hands instead of trigger happy as long as they knew he had no gun? Also I’m surprised u wouldn’t admit Paul O’Neal was trying to dogde his car from cops yet u claim he used a car to try to kill cops. I think it’s not nice of u to defend corrupt cops & u should know well they’ll be disciplined, arrested & spend in jail for life.

      • Carlos Marquez

        “”Officers stopped their patrol car as the stolen vehicle came towards them. We can see that Paul O’Neal attempted to run over one of the officers, who barely escaped with his life.

        Once Paul O’Neal attempted to run over the officer, the officers had probable cause to believe that O’Neal posed a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officers and others. If O’Neal was willing to run over an officer, then by allowing him to escape, officers would have allowed him to severely injure or kill other officers or citizens in the area. These officers had a duty to stop O’Neal, and they used the only reasonably effective tool that they had to stop him, their guns.””

        Yes, he dodge but that’s because he is trying to escape!!!!

        You need to understand that he is not defenceless as you claim, he can still use the car as a weapon, to understand this;

        1.- You need to learn the definition of Weapon inside the federal law and you can even search it in a dictionary so here you have it;

        **Federal law defines dangerous weapon as, “(i) an instrument capable of inflicting death or serious bodily injury; or (ii) an object that is not an instrument capable of inflicting death or serious bodily injury but (I) closely resembles such an instrument; or (II) the defendant used the object in a manner that created the impression that the object was such an instrument (e.g. a defendant wrapped a hand in a towel during a bank robbery to create the appearance of a gun).” (18 USCS Appx § 1B1.1)**

        2.- You argue about he is being handcuff after he got shot; So there is no State or Federal rules about handcuffing a downed suspect. This is a police practice that has been going for a long time, let me explain you why this happen.

        **It’s a jurisdiction procedure for different officers at law enforcement agencies across the country to handcuff a person or not after shooting them or using some other type of force such as Tasers. Those incapacitated or killed by use of force may lie that way for hours, unless the handcuffs are removed for medical treatment.

        **To secure the scene.“Twelve seconds afterwards we don’t know the person’s dead.”

        **it happen when someone has pretended to be unconscious, luring you in, and once you’ve closed the distance, they come at you.”

        **First you want to make sure the scene is safe, then you render aid, you still don´t know if the suspect has any type of weapon.

        ** U.S. Bureau of Justice project on increasing officer safety. Lesson Number 8: “Handcuff all downed suspects.” It notes that “some human beings have a remarkable capacity to survive gunshot wounds.

        So some of this points will make sense to you or not but everything comes down to the safety to the officers and civilians surrounding the area.

        • elizabeth borden

          I very much appreciate your nice, calm and reasonable argument, I just had a loud “discussion” about this with my husband.
          I understand the police have the right to protect themselves along with protecting the public. I understand that this is split-second, life or death decision that is being made.

          But, It is extremely disturbing that the officer’s body-cam malfunctioned at the very time it should have been filming (surely you can see that smacks of contrivance). But it also seems terribly reckless, and dangerous to the general public to be shooting guns in a residential area, with fellow officers within their range. This is not Grand Theft Auto. If one of the officers had shot the driver while he was still behind the wheel, you would have had an even more out of control car.

          But I seriously doubt, if caught, tried and convicted this young man would have received the death penalty.

        • lily

          Another FB lawyer.

        • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

          what video did you watch??? if he wanted to hit the officer he would have easily done it…

    • James Latham

      Cop jumped out of his car right into the path of the oncoming car. If the kid really wanted to hit him he could of. They were firing their guns at him when he crashed into the other car. Once again he was probably looking back and was not trying to hurt any cops but just get away. Since he’s black and he had white racist cops chasing him they had an excuse to execute another black man. Shows these thugs high five after they murder him.

      • William Jackson

        Even if you accidentally hit a police officer (or a patrol car) it is attempted murder, and if the officer dies, then its murder. Criminals need to learn that if you run from the police, you deserve what you get. If the “kid’s” parents taught him to obey the law and respect the police, he’d still be alive. Fault here goes to the parents not the police.

    • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

      i did not see any video of the man trying to kill a cop… please let me know where i can see a video of him trying to kill a cop… i did see him trying to drive away from the cops… but he did not aim the car towards the cop… he did hit a cruiser…
      i see that you can defend an officer who shoots an unarmed man in the back though… being a criminal does not mean that an officer can become judge, jury, and executioner…

  • John Smith

    I’m not defending the suspect, but you say that he attempted to murder the officer.
    How can you prove intent to murder the officer, and not him trying to flee, but the officer’s vehicle is in the way?
    You could argue by the time the officer opened the door and stepped out of the car, he stepped IN to the moving vehicles path who was avoiding the other officer standing at the front of the vehicle.

    • MolonLabe#tryme

      I’m not defending the suspect, but…

      Look scooter you just did and your rationale is convoluted to the point of “fucktardness”.

  • Korteztk

    Once more the police are using excuses to permit the execution of a black youth. Unjustified.

    • budfudlacker

      Oh lord….here we go. You punks love being the victim, don’t you? This isn’t about race. All this is, is your ilk playing the race card, pretending to be the victim to try and get some special treatment.

      Instead of perhaps obeying the law and acting like a civilized human being, you WANT to be the victim so you might be able to get something handed to you.

      • Cranky Old Man

        Pathetic, you couldn’t be more of a spineless coward when you advocate for the elimination of our Constitutional rights to satisfy your delusional sense of security. Every American who has died protecting our rights and our freedoms is insulted by cowards like you!

        • Korteztk

          Big men on the internet. I saved enough of your sorry asses in Vietnam. Most of you were crying and begging for help. Now, you are show offs over here. I put my body on the line for well over a decade, so save me your sorry BS where you pretend how much tougher you are. I am not buying it or the need to kill every black in sight who acts like a fool.

          • Cranky Old Man

            You replied to the wrong person.

          • budfudlacker

            Yeah, I bet you saved a bunch of “sorry asses” in Vietnam. Way to be tolerant there, chief. You’re just as biased as the people you criticize….

            And I bet you were in some lame support unit and never shot your weapon once while in country, other than to zero. I was in a Cav Scout unit and served in Baqubah, Iraq at Camp Warhorse, so spare me your lame hero stories. You aren’t the only person here who has served. Your ego is just too big to be humble about it, so you exaggerate your stories of Vietnam to try and get attention. I’d bet the farm you didn’t do $#!t in Vietnam other than make sure the chow and ammo was sorted correctly. The biggest losers talk the biggest game, every time.

          • Korteztk

            You are a sorry person … you a cop? If so, it’s disgusting. Well, phony tough guy, have a good, racist life.

          • budfudlacker

            You’re probably one of those guys who hates cops just because you’ve been in so much trouble. See, you can make dumb assumptions, so can I. Don’t hate the game, hate the player lol. Those “disgusting” cops are giving you the safety at a local level so you can come to websites like this and smear your ungrateful feces everywhere.

          • Korteztk

            Nope, I’ve never been in trouble, dummy, and I don’t hate cops. They just have to stop assassinating black people. You seem to enjoy it. You a former Grand Dragon with the KKK? See, I know you’re not, but I thought you might feel better if someone said something half as wrong as everything you’ve been saying. Also, you gross excuse for a human, I can take care of myself. I am an expert at a few martial arts, guns, bows, crossbows, am very comfortable in the outdoors, climbing, swimming, diving, parachuting, you name it. No, you’ll have to do better than you’ve done so far. I’d tell you what I did in the military and afterwards but you’d have some serious problems trying to comprehend how I could care enough about others and still have done what I have done. You just cannot deal with that and only have 1 or 2 functioning brain cells like you do. So, try to think of some more insults. Maybe you’ll get lucky. No, you won’t, but that won’t matter to someone so ignorant as you.

        • budfudlacker

          Same thing for the cranky old man with a stick stuck in his rear lol – I love how people like you act like you take the high road by being “tolerant” and “loving of everyone”, but as soon as you’re hit in the face with a little truth or an opposing view you turn into a 6th grade name calling, wildly assuming lunatic.

          You’re setting a nice double standard there, bud. Congrats! Lmao

          • Cranky Old Man

            One need only consider the name you’ve put together here to define yourself – budfudlacker – and then your comment to go with that name, ” ‘man’ with a stick stuck in her rear…” to get some insight in how you were brought up – in a white trash family that terrorized you into hiding your homosexual identity.

            No education in the home or in school, and now you’re just a self hating trash trolling on the internet looking for excuses to express your sexually repressed anxieties.

            Then there’s image of the baby under feet. Your way of saying there is a culture out there in the world that is lower than the one you were brought up in,

            “I am not the bottom of the social ladder”, is your message to the world. Here is my message to you – here in the USA – all Klan culture is at the bottom of our social ladder.

          • budfudlacker

            Oh snap! Username smack! Boy, you got me good there! However will I recover?!?! Lmao

            The picture is of a priest in the middle east and it is believed his feet have healing properties – hence, why his feet are on the child. I chose that picture just to troll angry morons that assume too much, such as yourself.

            Thanks for proving my point even further: the people who put themselves on the highest horses (you) are the most angry, bigoted, worthless souls on the planet. Lol I love it!

      • Korteztk

        I’m a Native American who served his country in Vietnam. You read like a damned idiot. You’re the one playing the race card, making incorrect assumptions, and getting it all wrong. Also, nobody tried to ram any cops. You probably are just an assumptive racist fool.

        http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2016/08/chicago-pd-paul-oneal-video/ if you want an interesting read which is likely the truth.

        As for me I am not in trouble with the law and have not been. Why do you so enjoy seeing blacks murdered whenever there is an opportunity. Is that your read on how the Constitution works, assuming you have read and understood it and the fifth amendment?

        • budfudlacker

          Lol….I love how people like you act like you take the high road by being “tolerant” and “loving of everyone”, but as soon as you’re hit in the face with a little truth or an opposing view you turn into a 6th grade name calling, wildly assuming lunatic.

          You’re setting a nice double standard there, bud. Congrats! Lmao

      • Josh Newton

        I kind of excuse “playing victim” when an unarmed person gets shot dead.

  • Overcome Evilgov

    A car can be much more deadly then a gun. This why I believe a vehicle not pulling over but runs should be treated as if the person is wildly shooting a gun and shoot at a car to stop is if it’s determined no innocent children are on board. Hundreds of innocent people and cops are killed every year and many more are seriously injured. Shoot at fleeing felons, don’t chase them.

    • Korteztk

      CPD has a policy not to shoot at the moving car. Just because you believe they should doesn’t give the police the right to change the policy.

    • lily

      Police pursuits are outlawed in most states due to the loss on innocent lives. Educate yourself.

      • ConservativeWaysSave

        You’re missing the point. Educate yourself.

  • Cranky Old Man

    “Video Proves That Chicago PD Was Justified in Shooting at Paul O’Neal”
    This title should read, “Video Proves That Chicago PD Was Justified in Shooting at Paul O’Neal… but not justified at giving him the death penalty for exiting the car and trying to run away.”

    This is first degree murder.

    • AAA

      You have no understanding of the law.

      • Cranky Old Man

        AAA, I not only have a perfect understanding of the law, I also have an understanding of what it means to be a free person who does not cowardly exchange his freedoms so cowards like you can have a false sense of security. You truly are a brainless spineless coward!

        • Brian Hannah

          You just copy and paste or type that evwry time?

        • jensopine

          Does being a free person mean we can steal a car, drive recklessly to get away, exit the vehicle and keep running because I am invincible to any law that says stealing is not a crime and shouldn’t be punishable because again, I am free to steal and put people in danger by driving recklessly when I see I am be chased by the law, and continue to run away, just because I stole a car? Silly me. As for being shot in the back? He was shot before he was on the ground being handcuffed… But again maybe the law should have just let him run away – after all he was a free person. Hope no one steals from you – you apparently will have no problem with that thief’s freedom of choice – to steal from you.

          • Cranky Old Man

            Being a free person means you have enough brains to know the difference between valuing and protecting your rights and giving up those rights for a false sense of security. And who said anything about being on the ground with handcuffs on? What the hell does that have to do with just shooting a fleeing suspect in the back? Which is in the case was an execution without trail, conviction, or sentencing? The biggest threat to every American are people like you – spineless cowards who gladly exchange there rights for a false sense of security, not petty car thieves!

      • lily

        Said the Phi Beta Kappa from Harvard Law.

    • spencer

      Just maybe…maybe you shouldn’t steal a car…or try running over an officer with said car, you also really shouldn’t ram said car your stole into another police officers car. OH, I almost forgot….maybe you shouldn’t also run away from all the officers afterwards? They didn’t give him the death penalty, he basically hung up a nose, put his neck in it, and dropped off the chair all by himself.

      This isn’t murder. Its suicide by being an idiot.

    • budfudlacker

      Perhaps he shouldn’t have broke the law. He’d still be alive if only he acted like he had some sense. It takes a special kind of stupid to give a bunch of guys with guns on their hips a reason to get defensive in the first place. Fly around me like a lunatic in a 2000 car and you can bet the farm I’m gonna be on edge and pull out my weapon, and probably shoot. You would, too.

      Stop breaking the law and these thugs won’t have to worry about the cops mowing them down.

      • Cranky Old Man

        So you are saying stupid people who “brake the law”, deserve to die.
        You are an excellent example of an un-American spineless brainless coward who gladly trades our freedoms for a false sense of security. You are pathetic!

  • budfudlacker

    The suspect was definitely armed. He was driving a 2000 pound ramming machine………..All that aside, however, I remember this one time that I didn’t steal a car and run from the police. I never did get shot. Hmmmmm, MAYBE that’s it!!! Maybe if these morons would quit breaking the law they might not get mowed down by the police!!!

    • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

      and maybe the white morons will quit breaking the law too.. but, hey, most whites don’t get mowed down by the police the way blacks do… so whites do not have to worry as much…

      • budfudlacker

        Probably because MOST whites know how to act like civilized members of society. This has nothing to do with race. This is about attitude.

        • Brit_19

          Most white criminals are civilised?. FYI the rest of the world sees how uncivilised your entire country is the police hunting an unarmed teenager whose deadly crime was stealing a car !!!. Hell under sharia law the kid would just have lost a hand in christian america the price if your black is death !!!!.

          • budfudlacker

            The only people in this country and elsewhere that seriously think the police “hunted” down some innocent black man are thugs and people who hate law enforcement because they don’t know how to act right lololol. They are the uncivilized contingent of our society that plagues the entire world. Hey, guess what, this ain’t Sharia law lololol. Under Sharia law this kid probably wouldn’t have stolen a car to begin with lololol. But I guarantee you he would’ve gotten more than a severed hand for stealing a car under Sharia law. He would probably be beheaded.

            Here in the US, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. I didn’t go out a steal a car like a moron yesterday…and guess what? I didn’t get shot by the cops and I’m still alive. Maybe if he chose to do the right thing he wouldn’t be 6 feet under right now lololol.

          • Killwhitey

            Charles kinsey didnt go out and commit any crime when he was accosted by police. Despite this he still kept his cool, complied with a violation of his human rights and was still shot lying down with his arms in the air and his hands open. Like you said, you kkkops keep playing stupid games youll get stupider prizes. Maybe if some of those kkkops in dallas werent irl nazis theyd still be alive.

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            You act like talking crap on the cops killed in Dallas is going to hurt our feelings, but it’s not. You’re so racist though that it blinds you. The only person you’re hurting by being saying this stuff is yourself. You’re showing how bad a racist you really are and it’s so sad and pathetic. I’ve been given tickets and pulled over for no reason three times in the past 2 years. One cop kept harassing me hoping I would incriminate myself by admitting I was speaking which I wasn’t. Another cop falsely have me a speeding ticket and even lied in court. The third cop pulled me over because I was driving my brother’s car and his front window was literally one shade darker than allowed which I doubt he could eyeball. The first thing I immediately asked him was why he pulled me over and he started being a dick because he couldn’t come up with anything but that bought him enough time to come up with the tint. A few years ago i had a cop pull be over in the freeway because he thought I was revving my engine at him when I was simply passing a slow car. The point is that many cops are dicks and things need change but being a racist isn’t the way. White people are tired of dealing asshole cops too. More whites are killed by cops but we aren’t out rioting. There are also plenty of good cops out there that I’ve dealt with so not all of them are bad. The best way to handle this is to eliminate race and work together.

          • Killwhitey

            The only good cop is the one who quits. More white people may have been killed by cops but compared to the sizes of the white and black/brown populations blacks/browns have been murdered and harrassed more per capita

          • Dominique Douglas

            White people riot when they are happy, which is very backwards to me but I digress. They commit tons of damage and no one dies– at least by the hands of cops.

            This is what happened when San Francisco won the World Series a couple years back.

            I guess they get a pass because they’re smiling!

          • budfudlacker

            That’s not even close to a “riot”. Good lord. You never see white people completely destroying towns, burning down and looting businesses when they “riot”. Especially when a white man is killed by the cops, and it does happen – more often than blacks, as a matter of fact.

            Here’s another thing: This isn’t about a “broken system” or “unjustified” shootings aimed at the black community. If that was the case, blacks would be more worried about inner city violence. Fact: black men are MUCH more likely to get killed by another black man than a cop. The rate at which Inner city homicide cases are solved is below 55% also. So it’s not about justice either. Why doesn’t the black community raise this much hell every time a black guy plugs another one for his shoes, or gang territory, and his murderer eludes justice because the witnesses won’t talk? Why? Perhaps it doesn’t fir their agenda? What is all this about? It’s just another chance for the black community to play victim so they can muscle the public and government for special treatment. It’s that simple.

          • Dominique Douglas

            You really want to believe that whites are superior and that blacks get special treatment so I will allow you that.

            You also want to believe that “whites” rioting is not rioting.

            You want to conflate the issue of black on black crime with the issue of police discriminatory practices.

            Its all yours. I’ll see you at the polls. Where in America in 2016, a black vote counts 1 for 1 (not 3/5ths as it did prior to 1868; that’s real special treatment!).

          • Kathy Brown, Esq.

            You are 100% correct Bud.

            I’m a lawyer. I can’t even describe to you the culture of ‘It’s-not-my-fault’ which permeates the criminal community. For that reason I don’t do criminal defense anymore. I mean it’s the most depressing work possible, because nothing gets accomplished.

            Newsflash to the yo-yo who posted above: Young Black men commit crimes 10X more than young White and Latino men, COMBINED.

          • Dominique Douglas

            Yeah, Kathy Brown Esquire, you tell him! But keep in mind that in states like New York where discriminatory policing practices are de jure, police stop INNOCENT blacks at a rate 10x that of whites. I guess if you stop one white citizen to every ten black citizens, it makes it a little easier for them to slip under the radar. In my humble opinion– because I’m certainly not as sure of things as you seem to be– its pretty easy to create the numbers if you want them (and most police and justice systems work on quotas) and knowing that a substantial number of people of color are poor and under-educated (notice I didn’t say UN-educated as most of the racist types like to do) the powers that be find it easier to target those that don’t have the means, the time, or the energy after a 40-hour work week for pennies-on-the-dime to pursue any action against those that may be unfairly targeting them.

            Save the statistics for the idiots. The smart ones know that numbers can lie. If you were paying attention even slightly during the recession you would know that numbers lie often. If you are paying attention to Fox News now, as I’m sure a lot of you on this forum have been and forever cherish as the one true GOD and news source, you certainly believe that all the numbers churned out in the climb out of the George-Jr-spawned-economic downturn, particularly the ones that point to an upswing, are false.

          • Kathy Brown, Esq.

            Thanks Dominique. Beautiful name, by the way.

            Of course Blacks are stopped more than Whites. That is eminently ‘fair’.

            When a specific demographic is so wildly, disproportionately responsible for crime as is true of young Black males, that population should be targeted and ‘stopped’. This is profiling, 100% legal; and in fact practiced every day. For example: When a bank robbery occurs, a full description of the perp is immediately broadcast (‘White male, 30’s, red hair, 6 ft. tall’). Until the offender is caught, innocent individuals matching that profile will certainly be detained (‘stopped’). Law abiding citizens understand the process and don’t object, nor should they.

            What is dangerous to us law-abiding citizens is not that young Black males ARE profiled; but that very few police departments state the aforementioned. Instead, we hear PDs DENY this truth, falling all over themselves declaiming that they would never, EVER, ‘profile’. That is due to the utter idiocy of political correctness which Trump has rightly denounced as not only stupid, but in fact dangerous. And if anyone doubts the dangerousness of such willful blindness, they need only consult our failure to eradicate the muslim menace in our midst,DUE to such willful blindness: https://youtu.be/94NvtDysN2g

            As for the viewership of Fox News: I fail to see how tuning in to Fox translates into worshiping it as a ‘God’. Fox is simply the least biased agenda-driven cable news channel, in comparison with MSNBC and CNN. But Fox is by no means absent prejudice itself. We citizens choose the best of what exists in a monumentally flawed world; only God Himself is w/o flaw. But as the meteoric rise of Trump illustrates: We-The-People are both intelligent and clear-eyed.

          • Dominique Douglas

            Hmm. It sounds like you are confounding Black Americans and Islamic terrorism. In addition, it sounds like you “have no idea how Sharia law works…” but would love to implement a radical Christian version of it right here in the US. Lastly, it seems as though you are laughing at the death of a dead teenager, while exalting your moral superiority (your lack of criminality–no grand theft auto on your record).

            You are an amazing creature! How backwards you are!

          • FourOne6Side

            LMAOOO ….POLICE WENT FROM HUNTER TO BEING HUNTED

          • budfudlacker

            I suppose. Why would anything be different? We’re talking about black people here: an ilk that refuses to be anything other than angry victims, and they wonder why they can’t get ahead. As long as blacks continue to act like the rabid apes they are, they will continue to get mowed down by cops lolol.

        • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

          do you mean like most whites who gun down unarmed citizens?
          i know some black people… and they do not act any different from whites…. how stupid some of you are… skin color has nothing to do with how a person acts…
          i have been treated more badly by whites (my own kind) then any black person…

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            Sorry but no way am idiot like you could become a cop. Also more black people shot and kill more people than another race so more proof you’re an idiot. You just called someone stupid for saying skin doesn’t matter and attitude does, then you compared people with different skin color in a racist manner, then you said shin color doesn’t matter. You’re such a tool and so ignorant it’s unbelievable. I literally cannot believe someone is that ignorant.

          • Killwhitey

            the books is cooked lol
            police corruption has a long history
            #alljobsmatter
            #bluelivesmurder

          • Dominique Douglas

            According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Report database, in 2010 58.6% of reported hate crime offenders were white, 18.4% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were Native Americans.

          • FourOne6Side

            WHILE WHITE COLLAR CRIME IS AT A ALL TIME HIGH

          • Dominique Douglas

            Calling people names never wins an argument.

            I believe your sentence should read “Also, (omit ‘more’) black people shoot (shot is past tense) and kill more people than any other race, this is more proof that you’re an idiot”

            Typically name-calling and poor grammar are considered signs of low-intelligence and ill-breeding.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            you just prove what an idiot you are… read your first sentence… geez just read the whole post and you will see just how dumb you are…

          • budfudlacker

            Lmao, oooook, whatever you say there, chief. Funny, I have had the exact opposite experiences. You’re either a black thug or some yellow bellied white apologist that has a sexual fetish for being submissive to black people.

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            i am not your chief… but if i were you would be pounding the beat in the land of the few people… out in the sticks… just to get you away from the Folks…
            do i look black??? and i know that i am not “some yellow bellied white apologist that has a sexual fetish for being submissive to black people”
            it appears to me that you have the desire to hide your true name and face… are you afraid that someone who come and get you?
            and you have strange thoughts about a sexual fetish… do you have others? why would you say think and say that? you must be an officer also… you act like one… police ranked seventh on the list of professions with the most psychotics… google it… and learn…

          • budfudlacker

            Lmao touched a nerve there, huh Iceman? Or is it chief?

            Oh boy…..here we go with the completely fabricated statistics from a cop hater. Lol do you hate the mean ol’ cops because they won’t let you run around and act like the dumb, naive, menace to society that you are? Awww bless your heart. Oooohhhhh them mean ol’ cops! They’re so mean!!!! Lol

          • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

            ..

          • Killwhitey

            lulz
            #bluelivesbatter
            #bluelivesmurder
            #thankyoudorner
            #thankyoudallas

          • budfudlacker

            It must suck going through life as an angry loser such as yourself lol.

            Them mean ol’ cops and their mean ol’ guns!!! Oooohhhh they’re soooo MEAN!!! A BUNCH OF MEANIES!!!! Why are the cops always picking on me?!?!?! Bunch of dern ol’ MEANIES!!!!

          • Killwhitey

            lulz u mad bruh.

            no question mark this time

          • budfudlacker

            Oooohhh the dern mean ol’ cops make me so dern MAD!!! Bunch of MEANIES!!! OOOOHHH they’re so DERN MEAN!!! Always tryin’ to bring down the po’ ol’ black man and being all MEAN!!!! THEY SO MEAN!!!! CAN’T WE BREAK THE LAW ANYMORE WITHOUT THESE DERN MEAN OL’ COPS GETTING INVOLVED?!?! Dern they do dern mean!!! The dern meanies!!!!

          • FourOne6Side

            FUCKING WHITE TRASH

          • FourOne6Side

            LMAO GO WATCH SOME KITTY PORN OR SOMETHING YOU WHITE TRASH FUCK

          • FourOne6Side

            COPS DIE EVERY DAY YOU AINT DOING ME NO FUCKING HARM

          • Tacticalterry

            Actually they don’t. About 200 die a year, but grammar and math aren’t your strong suits

        • Dominique Douglas

          “Because MOST whites know how to act like civilized members of society..”
          “This has nothing to do with race?”

          Those statements are both racist and dangerous. The implication is that MOST people who share the race of the suspect in this video DO NOT know how to act like civilized members of society. Unfortunately it is your attitude, one where your assumptions about the superiority of white members (or inferiority of others) of our civilization are implied, and because not explicitly stated (although those statements are as explicit as implicit racism gets) are not racist. I have to tell you though, that it is that implicit bias, that belief that all people of color are inherently inferior, less-civilized, and therefore less worthy of saving, or better yet redemption, in the eyes of the law is what is causing these shootings.

          The slap on the wrist sentences that rapist white men are getting are illustrating that the legal system is broken and slanted. No jail time, no prison time, and a community service cherry on top. Charles Kinsey was shot in the leg by a cop who claimed that he was attempting to shoot the autistic man in his care. He was shot in the leg while lying on the ground with his hands up. He was shot in the leg after communicating that there was no danger. He was shot in the leg while the “dangerous suspect” was sitting upright next to him. The officer claimed the man sitting next to him was a threat and yet he only stopped shooting after he hit Charles Kinsey. He was then handcuffed and left to bleed out for over 20 minutes. None of the officers involved denounced him. The “Blue Wall of Silence”. What do we hear? It has nothing to do with race. People are not stupid and when they are presented case after case of clear bias, they get angry. When people feel hopeless, they lose their will to live righteously, and when they lose that they lose their sanity. This is what is causing the uptick in cop-killing.

          You can continue to fuel the fire and make policing a partisan’s game. Carry on. The stupid don’t get any smarter.

          • budfudlacker

            The stupid don’t get any smarter. Boy, you knocked it out of the park there. Until these thugs quit breaking the law and resisting arrest, they will continue to get mowed down by the police. Why do more white men get killed by the police every year then? How is that even happening AT ALL if the mean ol’ police are just out to get to po’ ol’ “innocent” black man? How is it I’ve been pulled over 5 times for a cracked windshield if the cops are simply “hunting down” blacks for their own amusement? Oh, wait, lemme guess, the cops are just doing that to throw off the public’s scent, huh? That it? They’ve gotta get a few whites here and there so their conspiracy to rampantly eradicate blacks isn’t so evident, right?

            Btw, accusing my attitude of being the source of the problem here is very, very hypocritical. Look at the way the black “victims” are acting for the truth. Don’t do stupid s#!t and you won’t get “executed” by the police. It’s not about race. It’s about attitude. It takes an especially stupid person to give the police who YOU KNOW has guns on their hips a reason to get defensive in the first place.

          • Dominique Douglas

            Typical defensive “there’s no such thing as white privilege” psychobabble. How wrong, how boring, how….well….typical!

      • ConservativeWaysSave

        You couldn’t be more ignorant. A black person literally tried to “mow” down a white person…. But according to you it’s completely the other way around.

        • Killwhitey

          lol if the kkkop didnt jump out the car he wouldnt have put himself in danger

          • ConservativeWaysSave

            You lose in the if game. How do you not understand that? IF the man never stole the car then none of this happens. You see, you lose.

          • Killwhitey

            if the cop never joined the force it dosent happen either lol if a hippo fell out of the sky right now and crushed me we wouldnt be having this comversation. i CANT lose in the if game MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • budfudlacker

            I can only hope that one day you’ll live somewhere without law enforcement. You’ll be the first thug screaming into the phone like a b!#$h for the police when something bad goes down.

            “Killwhitey” though. Amiright? The problem isn’t the police, it’s race baiting, ungrateful thugs that can’t act like a decent human being like you infecting society.

          • Killwhitey

            never called the kkkops, never will lulz i’ll handle mine or die tryin

          • budfudlacker

            Lol you’d be the first person screaming like a little b#!$h into the phone for the cops.

          • Killwhitey

            if i ever wanna commit suicide ill call em lol

          • budfudlacker

            Yeah I figure you’re dumb enough to do something that would end the scenario like that.

          • Killwhitey

            lol you make as much sense as i do we should grab beer

          • Dominique Douglas

            As a black person, I never call the police on another black person. They don’t really factor into my life.

          • budfudlacker

            I know you don’t. If blacks called the police on another black person, you’d never get off the phone. Your ilk kills each other off at an amazing rate, yet you’ll never hear a word about that, even though many of those murders go unsolved because of the “no snitch” policy within the black community. No. The police, they’re the problem here. So much for wanting justice.

          • Dominique Douglas

            You’re racist and that’s okay. Thanks for the chat Mister Budfudlacker.

          • budfudlacker

            So just because I don’t agree with you, I’m a racist? Congrats, you’re what’s wrong with the world: you make assumptions based on your biased opinion. As cliché as it sounds, you can’t handle the truth. No, you don’t WANT to hear the truth.

            OK I’ll tell you what…since your ilk is too damn victimized to see that not doing dumb shit like stealing cars and running from the police won’t get you shot, we’ll pick this argument up on the next article about a black man getting chopped down by the cops. Because it’s not IF, but WHEN. These things aren’t going to stop happening until your side realizes it’s stupid to act like a fool around cops to begin with. It’s amazing how just being polite to law enforcement will keep you alive and most times, out of trouble.

            So yeah, I’ll catch up with you on the next article about a “poor ol’ innocent” black man getting shot by the “mean ol’ racist” cops because he instigated the entire scenario by breaking the law.

          • budfudlacker

            So just because I don’t agree with you, I’m a racist? Just because I see the best solution to this (not breaking the law or doing anything to get the attention of cops to begin with) I’m a racist. Congrats, you’re what’s wrong with the world: you make assumptions based on your biased opinion. As cliché as it sounds, you can’t handle the truth. No, you don’t WANT to hear the truth.

            OK I’ll tell you what…since your ilk is too damn victimized to see that not doing dumb shit like stealing cars and running from the police won’t get you shot, we’ll pick this argument up on the next article about a black man getting chopped down by the cops. Because it’s not IF, but WHEN. These things aren’t going to stop happening until your side realizes it’s stupid to act like a fool around cops to begin with. It’s amazing how just being polite to law enforcement will keep you alive and most times, out of trouble.

            So yeah, I’ll catch up with you on the next article about a “poor ol’ innocent” black man getting shot by the “mean ol’ racist” cops because he instigated the entire scenario by breaking the law.

          • Dominique Douglas

            If the man was white he would have been tackled, handcuffed, and sent back to his family (most likely without a charge)

            You lose too. Hypotheticals don’t work for anyone my friend.

        • Dominique Douglas

          This is factually incorrect. A police car turned into what you or I would have considered oncoming traffic and he crashed into him. After being shot at during his chase and crashing, he fled on foot, he was pursued and shot in the back, there was no weapon found on his body.

          FACTS.

        • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

          you say lies, you must be an officer…

    • Josh Newton

      That stops being an argument when he gets out of the car. You can’t really ram someone with it while on foot.

      • Brit_19

        A black man can didn’t you know ?. Those 10 armed cops were petrified of the unarmed teenager running away. ISIS is nothing compared to a black teen who stole a car!!!!. He needed to be hunted down by armed police and a helicopter. The cop kicking him while he lay dying was protecting and serving WASN”T IT??????????.

        • ConservativeWaysSave

          Acting like anyone knew he was unarmed is ignorant and a sad and pathetic excuse.

          • Killwhitey

            assuming he was armed is racist

          • Dominique Douglas

            I agree with the guy below me, even though is handle is racist, assuming a black person is racist because they stole a car is ignorant, sad, pathetic, and racist.

      • ConservativeWaysSave

        Not really because no one knew if he was armed or nor until after he was shot.

        • Killwhitey

          well he ran away instead of trying to shoot anyone soooo. . .

    • Brit_19

      He was killed when he was OUT OF THE CAR

      • ConservativeWaysSave

        Yeah but no one knew if he had a weapon or not. Saying he didn’t after the fact is a bullshit excuse. To assume a thug that just some a car and almost killed a cop with it doesn’t have a weapon is ignorant and stupid. I can play Monday morning QB just like you.

        • Killwhitey

          fuck ur assumptions. fact remains he DIDNT have a weapon and DIDNT attempt to hurt anyone thats why he ran

          • iffydiffy

            No. He absolutely did attempt to hurt someone. He ran that car right down the street at that police car. He hit the next police car head-on.

        • Dominique Douglas

          Using the term thug seems to distance you from accepting the fact that he was a person. How interesting. Can we start calling young white men that commit mass murders thugs instead of crazy people? It seems that calling James Holmes “a crazy person” gives him a little more clout as a human, right? We’re calling him a ‘person’. But a “thug” is someone that wasn’t, isn’t, and never will be worthy of personhood and is therefore worthy of death. Interesting.

    • Dominique Douglas

      A 2013 report by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found that black men’s prison sentences were on average almost 20% longer than those of their white counterparts who were convicted of similar crimes.

  • This makes me absolutely terrified to steal any more Jaguars. These cops: SMH.

  • Paul Thompson

    You run. You get what you Get. He would have never made it out of the Car !!! He was in a weapon. Because he chose to use it as one!! Don’t care what you Punk thugs think….

  • Totally justified. O’neal tried to kill several officers with a 3000 lb car he stole.

  • THerman221

    Just one question? Why would the officers in this situation or any situation exit their vehicle during a chase like this except to employ spike strips? You may still be injured but are much safer in your vehicle. Until you are able to neutralize the suspects vehicle why exit yours? And I hope the third officer who killed him is exonerated. He had a ton of bullets fly past him and I would of done the same thing.

  • Bob

    Darwin award winner….

  • Selwyn Petersen

    Tunnel vision?? justifies the officer in question? Implying that for a few moments the police officer armed with a deadly weapon, had no control of the situation and even put his fellow officers lives at risk? Surely the whole reason for training should ensure that police officers are equipped to respond in a way that serves the public trust, which should include the preservation of life and the right to a fair trial in the least. In my honest opinion, law enforcement is saturated with fear, hatred and bias; totally devoid of values such as “courage under fire”, professionalism and moral values all of which serve to benefit a healthy modern society. Such actions by those entrusted with upholding the law indicate symptoms of a sick society and an embattled community. It indicates a public service at war with those it is meant to serve; a “house divided against itself” and at some point it will collapse.

  • lily

    The inability to follow policy and procedure makes you a danger to your fellow LEO’s.
    Maintaining the blue wall of silence make you as dirty as they are, no good will ever come of it. Yes the top has got to make a safe have for those to come forward without fear of repercussions but in the meantime grow a pair. Lead by example.

  • Bailee Barnes

    I believe it was justified, the kid should have stopped and obeyed officers. He would be alive today. Obey the police people.

    • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

      did you see the video of the man who stopped and obeyed the officer and was shot and murdered? he is the one who was with his girlfriend and they were pulled over for having a broken tail light… which was not really broken…
      or the video of the man who was telling the officer that the person who was his patient was only holding a toy truck? the man had his hands up in the air and he was on the ground but he was shot anyway… and the officer stated to the man that the officer did not know why he shot the man who was laying on the ground with his hands up… and then the police say that the officer was just trying to protect the man on the ground, with his hands up, from the man who was holding the toy truck..
      it is my opinion that these criminal police are mentally ill…

  • Big Bad Biker John

    I am soooooo glad the cops shot and killed this miscreant…….The carjackers have been doing this for so many years and getting away with it, that it is great to see a proper response to the insanity. So now, Chicago, remember this, Pants Up, Don’t Loot.

    • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

      bbbj did you ever see videos of the police violating the law? the police have been doing this for many years and getting away with it… it will be great to see a proper response to the insanity of the criminal polices officers….

      • Big Bad Biker John

        Answer, NO…Police officers DON’T violate the law on their own. The current crop of black miscreants taunt and berate the cops so much that they instinctively respond with more force than they normally would have. I don’t see much chance of this situation being resolved as long as Blacks continue to disrespect all authority. If they insist on making their own bed, then they must lie in it.
        Don’t forget…..”Pants Up, Don’t Loot”

        • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

          bbbj you must be deaf, dumb and blind if you never saw a video of an officer violating a law…
          do you understand just how foolish you sound by saying that cops instinctively respond with more force than they normally would have because they are being taunted and berated…
          by making that statement you are saying that it is alright for an officer to unlawfully harm or shoot a person because the person is making statements to the cop that the cop does not like….
          did you read the story about cops being psychotics… they rank seventh on the list of professions with the most psychotics… c.e.o’s of business top the list at number one… and a psychotic person is defined as having a mental illness…
          are you an officer? you seem to fit right in with them by blaming someone else for an officers criminal behavior…

  • Ethan Allen

    Thank you guys and girls in blue for all that you do. We’re with you.

    • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

      except when they are violating the law… we are with them only when they are doing what is lawful and with-in the rules…
      i am not with them when i see videos of many police attacking (and sometimes murdering) a man or woman who is on the ground and defenseless.. many have seen these videos of police committing crimes against the public but the police mostly get away with it… and the police lies are exposed by video of their crimes… i wonder how many times there has not been a video and the innocent was arrested and jailed and sentenced for a crime that was not committed???
      and please do not say that it has not happened…

  • Vlad

    I watched the video and saw two cops on each side of the street fire at
    the vehicle. These morons are lucky they didn’t shoot each other. Anyone
    with any military (or I presume police) training would know enough not
    to do that. Then these trigger-happy idiots fire down the residential street
    endangering civilians and other police officers. Beond stupid!!

  • Antonio Brito

    This article cites a policy violation, then justifies why that policy needed to violated. The Chicago Policy states: “firing into a moving vehicle when the vehicle is the only force used against the sworn member or another person”. Why is there always a reason that policy’s can be violated? Why is it that these justifications always seem to occur with Black men?

    • William Jackson

      Because black men seem to be involved in most of the crimes. And now that there are so many individuals and organizations inciting black people to kill police officers, the result is that police officers have to be even more concerned that a black man ramming police cars and almost running over officers might be a threat to other officers or civilians. Maybe those folks should be promoting peace and compliance when dealing with the police instead of rude, aggressive and flat out stupid behavior that just might end up getting more “innocent” black men shot.

  • Dave

    Stupid thug deserved it.

  • budfudlacker

    When are we gonna start questioning the behavior of the suspects instead of an officer with a gun on his hip? You have to be a special kind of stupid to make an armed group of people (the police) defensive in the first place. These things aren’t about race, they’re about attitude.

  • Elkhorn

    O’Neal tried to kill officers. At lease three counts of attempted murder and felony grand theft. He was out of control, and an immediate threat to police and to public safety. Based on what I saw, I would say that if O’Neal had found a civilian, he would have killed the civilian or used them as a human shield. That lawyer should also be admonished for his public inciting accusations. I hope that the family receives zero for his death, and they should be ashamed of his felonious actions, instead of gloating and expecting some sort of windfall.

    • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

      it is true that he was out of control but he jumped from the vehicle and was running away from the officer…. the officer thought that the perp was firing at him because other officers were firing also… the perp posed little threat at the time that he was running from the officer…. he did not need to be killed… (murdered)… the officer accidentally killed the perp and that is manslaughter… are you an officer?

  • Racerx9965

    All I can say is don’t be a criminal and there would be no problems. But I know that should not mean anything you should feel safe while breaking the law and causing people who work hard to own nice things grief. Yes your insurance coverage will go up and so will the rest.

    • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

      it is my opinion that people are pulled over for nothing many times during the day and night… you must not live here on earth… you must not read or watch videos…

  • Ken Andrews

    You try to kill the Police you RISK getting killed. Good job , good shooting and good riddance.

  • Robert Thompson

    The officer got out of his vehicle INTO the path of the vehicle…. What an idiot.

  • Michael Matthew Komaromi Gabri

    the police tried to protect the public by shooting at the kid as he was running away…bullets flying all over the place… only through the Grace of God did no innocent citizen be accidentally killed… and a cop would get away with the killing of an innocent once more… just like they have done so many times in the past…

  • Marcel Bright

    These “excuses” are bullshit. I have been in the exact same scenario more than once, except no officers started shooting because IT IS AGAINST DEPARTMENT G.O. s TO FIRE AT A MOVING VEHICLE WHEN THE ONLY THREAT IS THE VEHICLE.

  • Joe Miller

    “If O’Neal was willing to run over an officer, then by allowing him to escape, officers would have allowed him to severely injure or kill other officers or citizens in the area.”
    Simply not true. You’re making this up. Sad.

  • FourOne6Side

    HUNT DOWN THOSE WHITE FUCKS

    • budfudlacker

      Wahhhhh :'( the mean ol’ white man is mean to me! Wahhhhhhh :'(

      Wahhhhh :'( somebody feel sorry for me because I don’t know how to act like a civilized human being and keep getting plugged by the police! Wahhhhhh! :'( Wahhhhhhh :'( …the mean ol white man is mean and won’t let me do anything Wahhhhhhh!

      Lol cry, baby cry! Lol